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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:02 pm
by william-james88
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes... :(

I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD

Are you in Canada?


Yes

That must be it. They converted to USD because I'm in the US. Pretty screwed up that they kept the dollar amount the same. I will definitely not be giving them my business anymore with practices like that.


Just say it was misidentified and cancel your order. Write to them, they respond pretty quickly from what I heard.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:03 pm
by Lore Keeper
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes... :(

I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD

Are you in Canada?


Yes

That must be it. They converted to USD because I'm in the US. Pretty screwed up that they kept the dollar amount the same. I will definitely not be giving them my business anymore with practices like that.


Just say it was misidentified and cancel your order. Write to them, they respond pretty quickly from what I heard.

I'm going to opt to keep this order. It's hard to pass up a chance to get these guys so early. I'll just not repeat the mistake again.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:57 pm
by Mindmaster
Like Draculus, I’ll just wing finding this one instead of preordering (like I have much choice anyway, sold out as of this writing). Thankfully it’s not a dire need, I only want her as a stand-in Shattered Glass Tracks, even though the head’s wrong.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:30 am
by Munkky
I'm getting more and more worried that wave 4 won't see a UK release until next year, or if it does it'll only be in very limited quantities and difficult to get hold of. Granted, Waspinator and Tigatron are the only two I'm really interested in from this wave, but we still have no word on pre-orders and it's getting close to the end of the year.
On the plus side, I got an e-mail through from Amazon today, Sideswipe and Skywarp are now coming at the end of this month instead of November, so that'll be a nice thing to look forward to. Of course they probably will get pushed back to the original delivery date again between now and then like my past Amazon pre-orders have, but it'll be great if they do come this month.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:51 am
by Roadbuster
Mine is due to arrive tomorrow. Munkky, you using Prime or just regular?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:16 am
by Munkky
Roadbuster wrote:Mine is due to arrive tomorrow. Munkky, you using Prime or just regular?

Just the regular. Like I say, it'll be great if the set actually does arrive on the new date, but I'm not getting excited until I get a shipping confirmation. I have Airazor and managed to get Red Alert a few weeks ago, so I know more or less what to expect from the set.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:38 am
by Overcracker
Well..., Amazon just moved up my Sideswipe & Skywarp II from November to the end of this month now.
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SS & SWII

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:46 am
by -Kanrabat-
Now that I finally have Commander Rodimus Prime, I can truly say what I think of it.

First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.

The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.

HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.

Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.

My recommendation for those on the fence to get this guy: wait for a sale.

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Only things missing here are both MPs.... Or not. 8-)

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:56 am
by Sabrblade
Overcracker wrote:Well..., Amazon just moved up my Sideswipe & Skywarp II from November to the end of this month now.
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I just got an email saying mine bumped up so much that it shipped. :shock:

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:08 am
by Overcracker
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Well..., Amazon just moved up my Sideswipe & Skywarp II from November to the end of this month now.
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I just got an email saying mine bumped up so much that it shipped. :shock:



:lol: :lol: That's great!.


-Kanrabat- wrote:Now that I finally have Commander Rodimus Prime, I can truly say what I think of it.

First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.

The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.

HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.

Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.

My recommendation for those on the fence to get this guy: wait for a sale.




Mine just cleared customs so should be here next week hopefully. Can't wait. Though seeing the length of trailer, makes me realize my shelf is not deep enough for that. Will probably have to put the trailer side ways.


-Kanrabat- wrote:
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Only things missing here are both MPs.... Or not. 8-)


No love for Alternators Hot Rodimus?

I've Been trying to get him and the G1 figures for a decent price. not much luck when shipping ends up being more than the figure itself.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:13 am
by -Kanrabat-
Overcracker wrote:No love for Alternators Hot Rodimus?

I've Been trying to get him and the G1 figures for a decent price. not much luck when shipping ends up being more than the figure itself.


Oh, plenty of love! He's one of the better Alternators in my collection. But that display are for the "true" Hotrods/Rodimusses with similar altmodes. The huge yellow spoiler and blue windshield being key constants. So the realistic altmode of the Alternator and the lack of the spoiler wings in bot mode make him not being part of that display.

Only Hotrod missing may be a Cyberverse one. I'll have to get the best one if he's in the right colors.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:00 am
by Razorbeast88
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:10 am
by Sentinel_Primal
Are Puffer and Ranger supposed to come together? I can keep track of all the leaks these days :lol:

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:03 pm
by Till-all-R1
-Kanrabat- wrote:Now that I finally have Commander Rodimus Prime, I can truly say what I think of it.

First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.

The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.

HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.

Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.


My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.

I appreciate the insight into the bot's mechanics and the observations of said flaws, I don't expect perfection but at $90 I would have like a better final product. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to walk in on a sale for just about anything anymore, almost nothing hits retail around me. lol

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:21 pm
by Sowndwave76
Yeah, my Sideswipe/Skywarp went from a delivery date of early November to 2 weeks from now.

I think I'm in for Puffer... Not sure about Ranger. Kinda funny to me that his colors have him looking more Decepticon-ish imo.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:26 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Till-all-R1 wrote:My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.


You cannot compare Optimus Prime trailer with Rodimus Prime's trailer. Optimus's is barely a margarine container with nest to no parts. Rodimus's is huge, with hinges, big cannon, storage spaces, pistons, and whatnots.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:29 pm
by Nemesis Primal
Razorbeast88 wrote:
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Yay Road Ranger! This set is a definite buy for me, although considering we now have to wait for Wave 4 AND 5 to get revealed before Hasbro will be willing to show a Pipes repaint/retool, I'm concerned we're gonna have to wait a while before this gets put up for order.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Are Puffer and Ranger supposed to come together? I can keep track of all the leaks these days :lol:
Puffer and Road Ranger were initially leaked/listed as a 2-pack, yes.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:29 pm
by blackeyedprime
Interesting on Puffer and Ranger, might be tempted to skip pipes completely though the Ranger is making me sad that I dont have runabout yet.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pm
by o.supreme
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Till-all-R1 wrote:My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.


You cannot compare Optimus Prime trailer with Rodimus Prime's trailer. Optimus's is barely a margarine container with nest to no parts. Rodimus's is huge, with hinges, big cannon, storage spaces, pistons, and whatnots.


Agreed. RP does come with a LOT of bells and whistles on the trailer. I understand why a lot of people enjoy it. For me though, is wasn't necessary. They could have done a simpler trailer at the Leader price point, and I would have been just as satisfied.

I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:26 pm
by -Kanrabat-
o.supreme wrote:I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.


I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun.

So, all toys with ALL their accessories amount to:

Siege Commander Jetfire is a beefy boy at 0.773kg:

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Earthrise Commander Skylinx is a bit more massive at 0.811kg:

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Kingdom Commander Rodimus Prime is a lightweight at 0.618kg:

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So in the end, it's all down to parts count, not just weight. A "proof" would be to compare Omega Supreme VS SS Devastator. Both are "Titans". SS69 Devastator cost double of what Omega Supreme cost. But when comparing the weight:

Omega Supreme, 2.514kg:

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SS Devastator WITH the DNA Design upgrade kit, 1.871kg:

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So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm
by Sabrblade
Devastator's more of a Supreme than a Titan. Armada Unicron's taller than him, even.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:47 pm
by Munkky
-Kanrabat- wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.


I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun.

So, all toys with ALL their accessories amount to:

Siege Commander Jetfire is a beefy boy at 0.773kg:

Image

Earthrise Commander Skylinx is a bit more massive at 0.811kg:

Image

Kingdom Commander Rodimus Prime is a lightweight at 0.618kg:

Image

So in the end, it's all down to parts count, not just weight. A "proof" would be to compare Omega Supreme VS SS Devastator. Both are "Titans". SS69 Devastator cost double of what Omega Supreme cost. But when comparing the weight:

Omega Supreme, 2.514kg:

Image

SS Devastator WITH the DNA Design upgrade kit, 1.871kg:

Image

So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.

Why in the 25 years I've been a Transformers collector have I never thought of doing this?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:47 pm
by o.supreme
-Kanrabat- wrote:
I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun...
So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.


Thank you so much. Agreed in all accounts. I feel like it is a weird win for everyone however.

I think CC Rodimus is especially well done despite my own personal feeling that it's not worth $80, and I can feel justified in my opinion. However, for those who believe the CC label and price point is valid, that point stands as well.

About SS69. A premium is being paid for the slightly different deco and packaging. This is rare case because all the individual SS constructions combined only costs about 60% more than Siege OS.

Normally the purpose of packaging a set of toys together is to get a better value. It was that way with the original combiners giftsets, even with the ones in CW and TR. The box sets were slightly less than purchasing all of the same size class toys separately, unless you imported the TT versions of course would be more expensive.

When I first saw the price of SS69, it boggled my mind. Who in their right mind would by it, when the deco isn't that great, and the individuals are noticably less expensive.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:11 pm
by ZeroWolf
The point for ss69 I believe was to make it easier for those to attain devy who (for what ever reason), missed out on his components. Also several people were probably just waiting on a boxset to come along for ease of hunting.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:56 pm
by -Kanrabat-
ZeroWolf wrote:The point for ss69 I believe was to make it easier for those to attain devy who (for what ever reason), missed out on his components. Also several people were probably just waiting on a boxset to come along for ease of hunting.


That point is wasn't the point being discussed. The topic was basically how many grams of Transformers you get for the price paid.
A pointless point, but a fun point for sure.

Speaking of your point, that was my logic behind getting SS69. Me not trusting local distribution at all.

o.supreme wrote:When I first saw the price of SS69, it boggled my mind. Who in their right mind would by it, when the deco isn't that great, and the individuals are noticably less expensive.


Now I see why Zero responded with this.
Well, I dunno about the American side, but on the Canadian side, it was a much better value than getting the individual figures. Even when importing from BBTS! Especially if you miss out on one or two and you have no choices but to get them on Ebay and such.

The only way to truly make the individual figures cheaper was to be lucky on distribution and sales hunting locally. A feat hard to achieve especially over 2 or 3 years.