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Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:15 pm**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Here's a way to think about Animated Prowl: He deliberately restyled his body to blend in, because Ninja.

So, Black Zarak is technically Legacy (if by way of Selects). And so...

HOW DARE YOU'RE POSTING HAND-HOLDING PICTURES?
This is a family friendly site, you know.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:31 pm**

blackeyedprime wrote:Deluxe:
Beachcomber maybe but cant see it beating the POTP version.

This is pretty much my stance on this one, even more so after getting Cosmos and seeing him tower over BB. I know they all weren't the same height but I though he was closer to BB's height if maybe a head taller.

So for beachcomber to be DLX I'm worried it too will be too tall and possibly bulky to fit in with Bee as well as Seaspray. Since i already have POTP version I'm in no real hurry to replace it as it does fit in with those other minibots. And the one I want them to do next more than anyone else is Powerglide. Mainly so I know whether to get the Legends version or not.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:32 pm**

Till-all-R1 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Deluxe:
Beachcomber maybe but cant see it beating the POTP version.

This is pretty much my stance on this one, even more so after getting Cosmos and seeing him tower over BB. I know they all weren't the same height but I though he was closer to BB's height if maybe a head taller.

So for beachcomber to be DLX I'm worried it too will be too tall and possibly bulky to fit in with Bee as well as Seaspray. Since i already have POTP version I'm in no real hurry to replace it as it does fit in with those other minibots. And the one I want them to do next more than anyone else is Powerglide. Mainly so I know whether to get the Legends version or not.

I want Powerglide too, that's a character I've still never had a figure of but always liked in the cartoon

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:52 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:New leak updates on future Legacy waves from Jtprime17:
Updated wave breakdowns for legacy evo wave 3 and 4. What’s interesting is voyager Ramjet PR is listed in neither assortments but is still listed across multiple store systems. I’ll keep y’all posted if I get anymore info on his availability.

Wave 3: July

Core:
Skar x2
Swoop x2
Starscream PR x2
Grimlock x2

Deluxe:
Beachcomber x2
Devcon x2
Axelgreese x2
Tarantulas PR x2

Voyager:
Nemesis Leo x2
Dirge PR x1

Leader:
Armada Megatron x1
Blitzwing PR x1

Wave 4: October

Core:
Snarl x2
Optimus Prime PR x2
Sludge x2
Slug x2

Deluxe:
Shadowstriker x2
Strongarm x2
Bombshell x2
Detritus x2

Voyager:
Junkion x2
Bludgeon x1

Leader:
Prime Dreadwing x1
Laser Optimus Prime PR x1

Of the non-PRs on this list, the ones I am interested in are Bombshell, Prime Dreadwing and maybe Shadowstriker

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:06 pm**

blackeyedprime wrote:Hasbros really going to try selling blitzwing again hahaha -though they have got quite good at polishing turds :/

Haven't fans expressed grievances at only finding wave 1 in stores? Re-releasing him is a way to adress those grievances.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:12 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Hasbros really going to try selling blitzwing again hahaha -though they have got quite good at polishing turds :/

Haven't fans expressed grievances at only finding wave 1 in stores? Re-releasing him is a way to adress those grievances.

Dunno Stateside but over here he is still plentiful at £40 at smyths and even a little bit cheaper at game £38, He wasnt shifting at full price and was reduced pretty quick after he came out (though TM2 megatron being available for £38 through amazon prior to release suggests leader price shouldnt be £50+ anyways). Like some of the previous package refreshes im sure legacy version will be on the shelves next to the new packaging.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:14 pm**

-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Here's a way to think about Animated Prowl: He deliberately restyled his body to blend in, because Ninja.

So, Black Zarak is technically Legacy (if by way of Selects). And so...

HOW DARE YOU'RE POSTING HAND-HOLDING PICTURES?
This is a family friendly site, you know.

Screenshot_20230204_161407_Brave.jpg

And I'll have you know that that is a foot-holding picture, thank you very much! Harrumph!

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:46 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Hasbros really going to try selling blitzwing again hahaha -though they have got quite good at polishing turds :/

Haven't fans expressed grievances at only finding wave 1 in stores? Re-releasing him is a way to address those grievances.

I could be wrong, but I believe that is mostly in reference to Deluxes. At least in my area wave 2 voyagers were plentiful, even at Walmart, Jhiaxus is still shelfwarming. Wave 2 core was "blink and its gone", and Blitzwing, while not having a ton of shelf presence, was at least able to be obtained. I even saw one today at a Walmart.

Wave 2 deluxes I only ever saw at Target a couple of times (some fans never did). I just last week saw a single Crankcase, but never saw any other deluxe, or any Voyager, or Leader wave 3 at all.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:36 pm**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And I'll have you know that that is a foot-holding picture, thank you very much! Harrumph!

We're reaching fetish levels that I haven't thought possible! :lol:

But seriously, I like that mirror effect.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:32 pm**

transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:All you and that other one do is whine, whine, whine, whine, and feel "superior" about it.

You are free to be negative about everything.
And we are free to call you out for it.

Thanks for proving my point... hahahaha
Insults and personal attacks are indications of a weak mind.

We have had enough of this. This will be the last post of this type that will be left on these forums, from both parties involved in this quote and others of their ilk.

Warnings have been issued. If you feel the need to continue off-topic posting like this instead of ignoring posts you don't like, then you will be gifted a break where you have no choice but to ignore others posts because you won't be able to post.

Now, back on topic, and leave this one behind.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm**

I got my Legacy Breakdown and Scraphook today, which is pretty fun considering I only just ordered them Thursday night from Pulse.

Breakdown is breakdown, nothing really exciting. The best thing I did with him was throw him onto Menasor as a back calf. 3 of the 5 Mena-cons really did turn out pretty mediocre. The combiner itself is nice, but the latter 3 cons kinda made me like him less. I actually almost prefer him without the leg bots, and Dead End just does not look good on the arm like Dragstrip does. He's nice, and better than CW, but he's still a bit disappointing.

Scraphook is really awesome, I love his highly greebled scrappy design, and the colors in hand are ace. He is so much fun, and his truck mode is rad too. He is great, highlight of the wave so far for me. He also makes a cool leg

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:12 am**

He has a combiner peg?

And "Mena-cons?" You mean Stunticons? Their official name?

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:19 am**

Sabrblade wrote:New leak updates on future Legacy waves from Jtprime17:
Updated wave breakdowns for legacy evo wave 3 and 4. What’s interesting is voyager Ramjet PR is listed in neither assortments but is still listed across multiple store systems. I’ll keep y’all posted if I get anymore info on his availability.

Wave 3: July

Core:
Skar x2
Swoop x2
Starscream PR x2
Grimlock x2

Deluxe:
Beachcomber x2
Devcon x2
Axelgreese x2
Tarantulas PR x2

Voyager:
Nemesis Leo x2
Dirge PR x1

Leader:
Armada Megatron x1
Blitzwing PR x1

Wave 4: October

Core:
Snarl x2
Optimus Prime PR x2
Sludge x2
Slug x2

Deluxe:
Shadowstriker x2
Strongarm x2
Bombshell x2
Detritus x2

Voyager:
Junkion x2
Bludgeon x1

Leader:
Prime Dreadwing x1
Laser Optimus Prime PR x1

Okay there HAS to be a wave 5, I realize I've said this many times now but we've got "ROBO WLD RDR", Cheetor, Wheeljack, & Ramjet repacks, that Leader Optimus listing that's probably the "Holiday Prime in G1 colors" the designers just teased, and now a Bomb-Burst repack all unaccounted for in the 4 waves we know or maybe I'm just trying to cope with the fact that now I may actually have to spend $20+ just to get Bomb-Burst at all.

Other than that, all that's really changed here is that Shadow Striker got shifted back a wave in favor of Tarantulas getting repacked earlier, we know for sure that Axlegrease is the last Deluxe Junkion, and we know the order of the Voyagers and the Leader repacks.

Also according to JTPrime:
-Bludgeon is shortpacked because he "isn't the new mold of the case" (confirming the suspicion that Bludgeon is a Tarn retool, while also confirming that the Voyager Junkion is something new and not another SS86 Wreck-Gar retool)
-Shadow Striker's packaging is indeed supposed to say "Cyberverse Universe Shadow Striker"
-Medix (remember that leak?) isn't Selects, but JTPrime still doesn't know how he actually will be releasing

blackeyedprime wrote:Detritus depends how good the mold is, if its siege easy pass

If it helps, it seems all but certain at this point that Detritus will either use the Siege mold, or (probably more likely) the SS86/Buzzworthy earth mode retool of the Siege mold, seeing as how there's a Voyager Junkion in the same wave that may be filling "modular Junkion" duty for the wave and Wave 4 almost always contains at least one figure that's just a repaint or a new-head retool.

Munkky wrote:Has much been leaked about Wal-Mart or Amazon exclusives for this year?

-Amazon has zero leaks thus far, but the designers have expressed interest in doing a second wave of Wreckers and there were Fractyl and Diaclone Topspin rumors from last year that never panned out.
-Walmart has listings but most of them don't actually say the names of the characters, so all we know is that it has 4-5 currently-unnamed Deluxes, 1 currently-unnamed Deluxe repack, 1 currently-unnamed Voyager, and both G2 Grimlock and a currently-unnamed Leader.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:09 am**

The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:10 am**

Rodimus Prime wrote:He has a combiner peg?

And "Mena-cons?" You mean Stunticons? Their official name?

Nope. But he has a perfectly centered 5mm peg. And one of the designers hinted on Twitter in response to a leg mode picture that there was more to that than just speculation.

Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.

Besides, the combined form ended up being a let down for me.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:19 am**

Thanks to JT Prime we have a breakdown of the Legacy Toys coming out for the rest of the year. This shows us the month they are meant for release, which characters are getting repacked and which ones are getting shortpacked. For instance, we see here that Bludgeon will be shortpacked. And we now see that Axelgraese is indeed the upcoming deluxe car Junkion we've seen on the poster.

This is not spread bad news, but otherwise to give you a heads up as to which toy you should probably preorder instead of waiting to find in stores, since online places like BBTS or Hasbro Pulse may get solid cases instead of the assortment cases shown below, which end up at Walmart and Target.

Also PR means package refresh, these are toys from previous lines that are rereleased in this line.

Wave 3: July

Core:
Skar x2
Swoop x2
Starscream PR x2
Grimlock x2

Deluxe:
Beachcomber x2
Devcon x2
Axelgreese x2
Tarantulas PR x2

Voyager:
Nemesis Leo x2
Dirge PR x1

Leader:
Armada Megatron x1
Blitzwing PR x1

Wave 4: October

Core:
Snarl x2
Optimus Prime PR x2
Sludge x2
Slug x2

Deluxe:
Shadowstriker x2
Strongarm x2
Bombshell x2
Detritus x2

Voyager:
Junkion x2
Bludgeon x1

Leader:
Prime Dreadwing x1
Laser Optimus Prime PR x1

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:59 am**

o.supreme wrote:The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

I think this will be a bigger junkion weaponizer to go with the rest of this year's gimmick

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:46 am**

william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

I think this will be a bigger junkion weaponizer to go with the rest of this year's gimmick

I certainly hope so, the junkions look to be fantastic frol what we've seen so far

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:09 pm**

I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else? >:oP

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:09 pm**

So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer? If so, it better come with some accessories for it to run the same price as Rumble. He at least included his pile drivers.

Also, Core Class Sludge and Slag are listed, but not showing PR after them. They've already been released. Or are these in G2 colors?

Update: Never mind. PR means package refresh of figures from OTHER LINES. I was thinking OTHER WAVES of SAME LINE. My bad.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:21 pm**

Beachcomber, Bludgeon and Armada Megatron will most likely be purchases.

Hopefully they do Megatron right. Both Hotshot and Starscream have been only adequate so far.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:29 pm**

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:He has a combiner peg?

And "Mena-cons?" You mean Stunticons? Their official name?

Nope. But he has a perfectly centered 5mm peg. And one of the designers hinted on Twitter in response to a leg mode picture that there was more to that than just speculation.

Hmm I'm sure those adept at kitbashing can make it work. Looks pretty good. A junkion combiner would have been a good idea.

Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.

Do you mean Slag?

You can call them whatever you like, I was just a little confused, because I don't think they were referred to as Stunticons even on official packaging, now that I think about it.

As for the combined form, I'm also a bit disappointed, but I don't blame anyone else. I saw photos and reviews and still bought them. But they do look better separate than combined.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:31 pm**

wolverinetodd wrote:So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer?

No. Skar is the sixth Dinobot needed to finish the Core class Dinobot combiner.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:42 pm**

So here's the things that appeal to me from this leak:
Axelgreese, Armada Megs, Shadowstriker, Strongarm, voyager Junkion, and maybe Dreadwing (but I still think I mostly want that mold as G1 Skyquake)

I initially had Skar on my list but then I stopped to think about it. I had at first assumed this was a remake of Doubledealer's bat Powermaster in the vein of SS Rumble (Blue), but then I noticed that we don't have a listing for our last Dinobot, and Skar has also been used as a name for a Dynobot in IDW, however briefly. So that leads me to believe that Skar is the ankylosaurus dinobot for Volcanicus. Thus the distribution would be:
W1: Slug, Sludge
W2: Grimlock
W3: Swoop, Skar
W4: Snarl

And of course as this list shows we've got rereleases of figures in later waves so:
Wave 1: 3x Slug, 3 x Sludge
wave 2: 2x Grimlock
wave 3: 2x Skar, 2x Swoop, 2x Grimlock
Wave 4: 2x Snarl, 2x Sludge, 2x Slug

They're going to make sure get Slug and Sludge if you missed them the first time around. Waves 3 and 4 will be dominated by Dinobots.

Really wondering when we're going to see info about Dinoking.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:48 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:
wolverinetodd wrote:So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer?
No. Skar is the sixth Dinobot needed to finish the Core class Dinobot combiner.

You're both correct technically. The Dynobot Skar is a simple name reuse from the IDW comics (based on Dinobot names starting with "S"), but he was nothing more than a tragic plot device :lol:

He'll be the Ankylosaurus of this new group, if the Dinoking setup still holds true.

And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

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