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Gotta say, I really love the looks of Primal now that we know there's more to the transformation than twisting its torso around and bending it. It's nice to see it has more in common with Kingdom Primal with the back arch rather than upright with stubby like a giant chimp.

Emerje

That Primal looks bootilicious.

I do like him, and seeing more transformation in play is fun too. I will get him and the SS leader.

I think the mold looks great, but yeah, those colors are really boring. There's no reason his robot bits couldn't have a better color variety.

Looks like I’ll be purchasing the mainline versions of the Maximals, they all look great.

Lore Keeper wrote:I think the mold looks great, but yeah, those colors are really boring. There's no reason his robot bits couldn't have a better color variety.

I will be shocked if Hasbro doesn't at some point repaint this into original BW colors as an exclusive or something. It would be a waste of a great looking mold to be left largely unpainted like this.

Emerje

With the Rise of the Beasts mainline voyagers out, we are getting a better look at them. Below you'll see more images of the voyager Optimus Prime, which is a slightly shorter and more streamlined version of the Bumblebee Optimus Prime design we've previously had in Studio Series. Negronicus posted this quick pictorial review to give you an idea of what's in store with this guy and he posted images on the TFW2005 message boards.
We posted them below along with a size comparison image we have previously seen. If anyone is wondering about the flaps at the edges of the alt mode near the smoke stacks, they are from the real truck, but exaggerated in proportion. We have an image for you to compare the alt mode.

I know alot of people are going to get put off by his size (and lack of paint apps), since his vehicle mode is deluxe size and robot mode is a bigger deluxe. However, i really like the detail and articulation of the mold, and I hope it comes back with better paint apps. Only complaint i have is head is on a swivel instead of ballpoint, other that that articulation is on par with SS BB prime, the waist articulation is a little but limited by the mold.

On that voyager, the gray smokestacks "wings" are in the wrong direction and that Optimus is now a mini dumper truck for reasons.

Hard pass. Even on sale.

Wow. Looks like I'm saving a LOT of money from this line.

First primal looks bad (colors) and now Prime looks like a truck that should haul this mold away. My wallet thanks you hasbro.

Oof, that comparison image. Granted, SS Bumblebee OP was an amazing figure, so obviously a tough act to follow, but OOF. Not sure why you would pick the right one up if you already have the left one.

There's gotta be some mistransformation or misassembly here too, right? Like someone else pointed out, those flaps on the smokestacks appear to be backwards, and when he's transformed he has big gaps on the shoulders that looks like those should cover.

Spider5800 wrote:Oof, that comparison image. Granted, SS Bumblebee OP was an amazing figure, so obviously a tough act to follow, but OOF. Not sure why you would pick the right one up if you already have the left one.

Yeah, it's not for those who have the BBM prime. It's for parents who want to buy an Optimus Prime toy for kids. Most people getting this toy were only 3 years old when the BBM prime toy came out.
And there is a SS voyager Optimus Prime coming anyways to Target, for any fan who doesn't have the BBM prime and doesn't like this one.

There's gotta be some mistransformation or misassembly here too, right? Like someone else pointed out, those flaps on the smokestacks appear to be backwards, and when he's transformed he has big gaps on the shoulders that looks like those should cover.

I hate those flaps for how nonsensical they are. They don't add anything to the bot mode, so I have no clue why they are done this way and so out of proportion. Their orientation is correct though, so this seems to be how it's intended by the designers.

Ah, this was my confusion, I thought this WAS the SS version of RotB OP. Keep forgetting RotB has it's own separate toyline with simplified figures. This makes a lot more sense now.

Spider5800 wrote:Ah, this was my confusion, I thought this WAS the SS version of RotB OP. Keep forgetting RotB has it's own separate toyline with simplified figures. This makes a lot more sense now.

Doesn't really help they're reusing "Deluxe Class" and "Voyager Class" for the "Core" set with no extra gimmicks, setting the bar rather high on first sight. However, this isn't Generations, not even Studio Series; their approach is closer to the Cyberverse and the current Earthspark Deluxes.

So... we kinda need to be extra specific now.

So this images of Prime are prototype images yes?

Nemesis Destron wrote:So this images of Prime are prototype images yes?

This is the kiddie line, not Studio Series.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:So this images of Prime are prototype images yes?

This is the kiddie line, not Studio Series.

This is towards the kiddie's, really?

Nemesis Destron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:So this images of Prime are prototype images yes?

This is the kiddie line, not Studio Series.

This is towards the kiddie's, really?

I think this list will explain everything. For the Rise of the Beasts toy line, we have:

Generations
Studio Series Core
Studio Series Deluxe
Studio Series Voyager
Studio Series Leader

"Core" (No gimmicks other than transformation)
Deluxe Class
Voyager Class

Beast Alliance
Beast Battle Masters
Battle Changers
Beast Weaponizers (2-packs)
Beast Combiners (the Cyberverse Spark Armor wanna-bes)

Plus some more "-Changers" that can actually be told apart

Spider5800 wrote:Ah, this was my confusion, I thought this WAS the SS version of RotB OP. Keep forgetting RotB has it's own separate toyline with simplified figures. This makes a lot more sense now.

Yeah it gets confusing. Though I don't know if I'd call these simpler than Studio Series figures. Just maybe less screen accurate. In terms of complexity, they seem on par. I mean deluxe SS Airazor and Bumblebee are rather simple figure.

Nemesis Destron wrote:This is towards the kiddie's, really?

Depends what age you labels kiddies at. If 8 years old, then yes. And, fyi, all non MP TF toys are made for 8 year olds or younger.

While we got a ton of sightings for the Rise of the Beasts toyline, we have to remember that it was just the first wave and even more is to come. Case in point, this new Wheeljack figure. This Targetmaster type of toy is a Beast Alliance figure like Optimus Prime and Optinus Primal except he comes with the Rhinox Targetmaster which can also be bought separately. It's good that we get wind of this toy now so that fans who may want this toy know not to buy the Rhinox figure early. The images come from this Instagram post.

Well at the very least, that Rhinox has a different deco. There doesn't look to be any silver paint on the tech details in beast mode and the horns are painted off white instead of silver while the legs and body are cast in a different color plastics.

It could've been worse. It could've been just some minor paint detail changes on the sword and the eyes like the retail version of Lionizer and Dazzlestrike. Other than the effect part that is.

Will Toys R Us and Walmart Canada even bother ordering these?

Well this sucks, didn't think they would double dip with the Battle Masters. At least it's Rhinox, one of the best.

really enjoy this