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Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:51 am**

Actually think it's quite a neat idea. Useful for those who would like the core figure and don't want the shelf cluttered with the trailer, or useful for those who have the trailer and a broken cab or stubby stacks and want to just buy the cab or folk like me who couldn't really care less about the G1 Prime toy in general but might be persuaded to buy just the cab just to have a small piece of TF history represented on his otherwise mostly-movie TF shelves. I mean I did find a G1 Prime in charity shop recently missing hands and having a fair bit of chrome wear to the stacks and have used it in a couple photos so if it was cheap enough I might be persuaded to buy a mint looking one to use instead.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:53 am**

-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 Prime with no trailer? That suck big time.

Not really. Kids will be able to recreate all those famous "where did Prime's trailer go?" scenes.

Even though I have plenty of G1 Prime's, I do want to pick this up simply for the fact that it's different, the packaging is new, it's "a Prime that's never been done before".

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:06 am**

Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 Prime with no trailer? That suck big time.

Not really. Kids will be able to recreate all those famous "where did Prime's trailer go?" scenes.

Even though I have plenty of G1 Prime's, I do want to pick this up simply for the fact that it's different, the packaging is new, it's "a Prime that's never been done before".

Like I said, the good part of this is it will make the overal price much more reasonable.
Let's hope he will be plentiful like Hotrod was.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:08 am**

If this is legit - then its an auto-buy from me. I don't need another G1 Prime, but this compact release makes an amazing display piece.

I'm also going to hazard a guess that if it is real, that the other usual suspects that always get reissued will show up. Hasbro haven't given us Hound as a reissue yet, and given he was in the live-action films - that gives me some hope.

If they reissue Bruticus again... 8-|

blackeyedprime wrote:Megatron with out his stock would be weirder tho even if it looks like that could be a possibility now.

That, unfortunately, is never going to happen. Hasbro aren't in the business of making a realistic gun toy anymore.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:09 am**

We may get a galvatron reissue mind...

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:21 am**

Amelie wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Megatron with out his stock would be weirder tho even if it looks like that could be a possibility now.

That, unfortunately, is never going to happen. Hasbro aren't in the business of making a realistic gun toy anymore.

It already did happen some years ago. By Takara, of course. Dat DOTM 2 pack. G1 Megs had a special color and came without stock.

Prime got one too but he came with a trailer. But only the "empty box" that was the DOTM trailer. So that doesn't count.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:40 am**

Ok, on close inspection - this box is ether a very late mock up. Or completely fake. Either way - lots of inconsistencies and errors.

- Curved edges on the flap. The current reissues are hard edged (square)
- No Squares to the left side of "Converts to Truck to Robot and back". The others all have 2\3 squares here.
- Recycling mark on the plastic window.
- Grey border extends around the bottom and left of the window.
- Grey border follows the contours of the art too closely where usually it would be simplified
- Optimus Prime art is the 1984 Hasbro version. Historically, when Hasbro reissues Optimus Prime, they use the Japanese box art.
- All of the folded parts of the box have wear, as if creased by hand and not factory cut.
:edit:
- Window cuts off bottom of square grid
- Asterisk next to "More Than Meets The Eye". The others don't have this.

I'm sure there is more if I look hard enough.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:20 am**

I don’t post much but I’ll share this.

TRA GI AUTOBOT OPT PRIME
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TRA-GI-AUTOB ... 14&veh=aff
SKU 210385764
UPC 630509794980

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:51 am**

Very good eye Amelie

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:50 am**

Obviously not fake. It’s somebody that got the toys meant for the after Christmas toy restock early.

1) They have the yet to be released siege Shockwave, who as of this posting is not available anywhere for me to buy. Not even at scalper prices on EBay (I’m looking at least 2x a day for him and Magnus).

2) If it doesn’t make dollars then it doesn’t make sense. Who profits from this hoax? It’s simply not worth the money to put something like this together.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:23 am**

We finally have some confirmation about an impending Walmart Exclusive G1 Reissue Optimus Prime. Following on from our rumor\leak earlier today, thanks to Seibertron member Jtprime17, we have a working SKU Code (210385764). This release currently appears to be sans Trailer, which would be a first for G1 Optimus Prime releases in the Western market. Below is a mirror of the original article's leaked image -

The listing itself can be found on Walmart's own website as well as on Brickseek. With Hasbro reissuing G1 Transformers again – Optimus Prime seemed more like an eventuality than a maybe, but another chance to grab this iconic character for yourself is always welcome.

Until an official announcement is made, why not take a moment to refresh your optics with a look at Seibertron.com's own G1 Optimus Prime gallery!

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Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:43 am**

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1984forever wrote:2) If it doesn’t make dollars then it doesn’t make sense. Who profits from this hoax? It’s simply not worth the money to put something like this together.

2) It has been an issue in the past that knock-off releases have been spread as a rumor of a legitimate reissue. Its also been a problem that sometimes a reissue is faked before its even hit the shelves - Encore Metroplex being a good example

I'm also very glad I appear to be wrong. Even if that leaked image has all sorts of inconsistencies about the box...

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:52 am**

Amelie wrote:
1984forever wrote:2) If it doesn’t make dollars then it doesn’t make sense. Who profits from this hoax? It’s simply not worth the money to put something like this together.

2) It has been an issue in the past that knock-off releases have been spread as a rumor of a legitimate reissue. Its also been a problem that sometimes a reissue is faked before its even hit the shelves - Encore Metroplex being a good example

I'm also very glad I appear to be wrong. Even if that leaked image has all sorts of inconsistencies about the box...

Yes, but not only was there photographic evidence of the re-issue, there was supporting evidence to back it up in the form of other as yet to be released toys surrounding it. You gotta look at these things on a case by case basis.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:10 am**

Amelie wrote:
1984forever wrote:2) If it doesn’t make dollars then it doesn’t make sense. Who profits from this hoax? It’s simply not worth the money to put something like this together.

2) It has been an issue in the past that knock-off releases have been spread as a rumor of a legitimate reissue. Its also been a problem that sometimes a reissue is faked before its even hit the shelves - Encore Metroplex being a good example

I'm also very glad I appear to be wrong. Even if that leaked image has all sorts of inconsistencies about the box...

I think you very well could be right about the box being a mock-up, though. My best guess, based on the Google translation of the original post, is that these pictures were taken at a booth of a trade show or expo in Taiwan. Hasbro may not have finalized the box design, which isn’t too hard to imagine if this release is still months away.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:14 am**

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Amelie wrote:
1984forever wrote:2) If it doesn’t make dollars then it doesn’t make sense. Who profits from this hoax? It’s simply not worth the money to put something like this together.

2) It has been an issue in the past that knock-off releases have been spread as a rumor of a legitimate reissue. Its also been a problem that sometimes a reissue is faked before its even hit the shelves - Encore Metroplex being a good example

I'm also very glad I appear to be wrong. Even if that leaked image has all sorts of inconsistencies about the box...

I think you very well could be right about the box being a mock-up, though. My best guess, based on the Google translation of the original post, is that these pictures were taken at a booth of a trade show or expo in Taiwan. Hasbro may not have finalized the box design, which isn’t too hard to imagine if this release is still months away.

I will second this, the reissue is real but this box will undergo other changes till it falls in line with the others.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:25 am**

ZeroWolf wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Amelie wrote:
1984forever wrote:2) If it doesn’t make dollars then it doesn’t make sense. Who profits from this hoax? It’s simply not worth the money to put something like this together.

2) It has been an issue in the past that knock-off releases have been spread as a rumor of a legitimate reissue. Its also been a problem that sometimes a reissue is faked before its even hit the shelves - Encore Metroplex being a good example

I'm also very glad I appear to be wrong. Even if that leaked image has all sorts of inconsistencies about the box...

I think you very well could be right about the box being a mock-up, though. My best guess, based on the Google translation of the original post, is that these pictures were taken at a booth of a trade show or expo in Taiwan. Hasbro may not have finalized the box design, which isn’t too hard to imagine if this release is still months away.

I will second this, the reissue is real but this box will undergo other changes till it falls in line with the others.

I doubt it. I think it’s too late in the game to make changes now. I expect this box to be the new design moving forward.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:50 am**

blackeyedprime wrote:If they have improved the front wheel nubs then I might pick one up, might just be me but it feels like on some they atre more noticable than other versions and childhood memories do not remember it having any -which is obviously wrong. New years special is still the best version yet imho.
Not really a reissue if it doesnt include his trailer but nice to see and have different price points. Megatron with out his stock would be weirder tho even if it looks like that could be a possibility now.

I wouldn't get my hopes up on that one. Stock or not, he still turns into a realistic gun. Given the current climate around guns in the US, a reissue of the toy seems very unlikely.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:38 am**

Japan is a lot more chill about realistic toy guns than the US, presumably because they heavily restrict the real ones.

1984forever, you do realize that people can in fact perpetrate hoaxes merely for their own entertainment, right?

Biggest sign that this box is a mockup for demonstration purposes: No hole punched in it for a shelf peg

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:45 am**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Biggest sign that this box is a mockup for demonstration purposes: No hole punched in it for a shelf peg

Wouldn't it more likely sit on a shelf like Hot Rod's reissue?

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:40 am**

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Biggest sign that this box is a mockup for demonstration purposes: No hole punched in it for a shelf peg
Wouldn't it more likely sit on a shelf like Hot Rod's reissue?

Exactly what I was going to point out. I remember the G1 boxes being stacked on the shelves, not hanging from pegs. This box will wind up in the hands of many customers as is before changes -if any- are made.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:41 am**

1984forever wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Biggest sign that this box is a mockup for demonstration purposes: No hole punched in it for a shelf peg
Wouldn't it more likely sit on a shelf like Hot Rod's reissue?

Exactly what I was going to point out. I remember the G1 boxes being stacked on the shelves, not hanging from pegs. Optimus Prime’s box will wind up in the hands of many customers as is before changes -if any- are made.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:54 am**

Or you could be wrong...speaking of which didn't you make a bet with Burn regarding critical appraisal of Bumblebee?

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:54 am**

I can't find the quote right now, but someone said this would be a great compact novelty piece. I thoroughly agree with that. Not to mention what this trailer-less reissue means for the price. Sure you can hunt down second hand figures for a deal, but for a brand new retail release this can't be beat. I remember buying the TRU Commemorative Prime over ten years ago, and he was 100 bucks! CAD anyways. But imagine what a proper full reissue (retail release) would cost these days?

Burn wrote:Kids will be able to recreate all those famous "where did Prime's trailer go?" scenes.

It'd be pretty funny if they released him in the "with trailer" packaging, only to have an empty clam shell and call it "invisible mode" :lol:

Amelie wrote:If they reissue Bruticus again...

I'd actually love to see that. The quality of the last Brutireissue was awful. And these newest reissues have had top notch QC.

1984forever wrote:Who profits from this hoax?

I'm not trying to argue against this things legitimacy (since now it's confirmed), but I would like to point out that there's fan made custom boxes and reproduction boxes all over the interwebs. If someone wanted to fake this, they could. And it doesn't even mean someone was trying to "hoax" us. Just sayin.

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:59 am**

I would be all down for a invisible trailer mode :lol:

but let the speculation begin on who else will be reissued...Reflector? Soundwave with Cassettes? Octane?

Posted: **Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:13 am**

ZeroWolf wrote:Or you could be wrong...speaking of which didn't you make a bet with Burn regarding critical appraisal of Bumblebee?

Yup, sure did. I bet a POTP Predaking that the Bumblebee movie wouldn’t make $400 million worldwide. Burn bet the removal of some unwarranted warnings or some such minor crap. It’s sad that fans expect this movie to be the lowest grossing of the entire lot :lol:

, I didn’t come up with that number, I just agreed to it. It’s also sad that now people are arguing about how I could have been wrong about the G1 Prime reissue not being fake. Putting that particular pic together would cost a scammer a little bit of money to get those unreleased toys together along with his fake boxed Prime fig. I think a scammer would prefer his creation sell on eBay rather than be content to have it ogled for free on Facebook.

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