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Since the Rise of the Beasts toyline is using new names for their size classes in the more gimmicky toys, fans have been a bit puzzled as to the size. It also doesn't help that the limited articulation makes it hard to tell if a toy is deluxe, scout or even legion sized. Hopefully the reviews below help clarify that for the Battle Changer class. We've seen reviews for Optimus and Bumblebee since last year and now we have some for Rhinox and Mirage. Enjoy!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think Mirage is supposed to be part of Wave 02 but with the way figures are being released, who knows? Regardless, Mirage is a really fun, simple transforming interpretation of the character in the film. The flip-out weapon gimmick is fun and doesn't take away from the rest of the figure. I'd like to see the Battle Changer Class transcend the movie line and become the new entry point class in the future.

And here are review for Optimus and Bumblebee if you need a refresher.

Toysrus stores across the Canadian nation have waited until the 10th to put the Rise of the Beasts toys on shelves, since that is the official release date. Below you will see images of what they had, which includes Battle Masters, Battle Changers (the wave including Mirage), Beast Combiners, Nerf gun Optimus, Smash and Change figures and role play masks.









And for people wanting to see what else was at that same Toysrus, here you go:

Saw a pallet of Rise of Beasts toys including Prime, Megatron, Bumblebee, and Optimus Primal. Bought a couple for gifts.

Man that TRU has SOME older releases.

Don't forget this review has Prime and two of the three Battle Masters

You'd be surprised at how much news one gimmicky toy could have. Rise of the Beasts Smash and Change Optimus Primal was featured in a Japanese commercial for the toyline. In it, the main actress, Akiko Wada, transforms into Optimus Primal's bot mode BUT the toy they chose to superimpose her face upon is a yet to be revealed toy. It is not Smash and Change Primal, which we can tell due to the different details and articulated hands.

Speaking of articulation, if you are curious to know how articulated the real Smash and Change toy is, here is a review for you below (spoiler alert: it has 0 points of articulation). We do get a good size comparison though.

Enjoy all the videos!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Man that TRU has SOME older releases.

Don't forget this review has Prime and two of the three Battle Masters

Haven't forgotten, it's gonna be in the battle masters review roundup

I know this line is meant for kids and kids often like gimmicks, but I really really hate them. It's almost always a sacrifice between the actual figure and it's "feature". I don't really think Hasbro realizes that even to kids these figures don't seem to sell as well as the mainline ones.

william-james88 wrote:

Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....

I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?

Smash and change Primal looks so much better than the voyager version. Sad.

Siger wrote:Smash and change Primal looks so much better than the voyager version. Sad.

It's the colours, right?

ouraziel wrote:I know this line is meant for kids and kids often like gimmicks, but I really really hate them. It's almost always a sacrifice between the actual figure and it's "feature". I don't really think Hasbro realizes that even to kids these figures don't seem to sell as well as the mainline ones.

Well as with the Bumblebee film toyline, these gimmicks are the mainline. However, we also get voyagers and deluxes in this mainline, which we didn't last time. So it's a big improvement and that means that there's no sacrifice anymore since you have the unhindered figures sold side by side, so no one misses out or loses out. No sacrificing, just more product for everyone

Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....
I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?

People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.

It's the colours, right?

Yeah, and proportions. Voyager's got a tiny head.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....
I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?

People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.

I don't see them going to the trouble of giving it opening hands and wrist swivels just for a large toy for kids. But, I guess we'll have to wait an see what it turns out to be.

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....
I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?

People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.

I don't see them going to the trouble of giving it opening hands and wrist swivels just for a large toy for kids. But, I guess we'll have to wait an see what it turns out to be.

It'll likely be along the lines of the Ultimate class toy that were released in the Cyberverse line. Large and imposing, but basic and brick-like.

Siger wrote:

It's the colours, right?

Yeah, and proportions. Voyager's got a tiny head.

Ah, especially for the gorilla mode, yeah. I remember being put off by that profile shot of the gorilla mode, it does seem more cohesive as a whole with the smash and change toy.

The Transformers Rise of the Beasts toyline is out in most parts of the world and while it is very big with not every country getting every size class yet, the Beast Battle Master class seems to be one of the more commonly found ones. Those are the Targetmasters and so far we have Rhinox, Cheetor and Skullcruncher. These are also the toys within the gimmick line that have had the most excitement from fans since the Targetmaster gimmick is the same one we've had since G1 and lends well to a collection. Plus, as you'll see in the reviews, the detailing on the figures is very good.

For those still unsure whether or not they are worth a pick up, we have rounded up some reviews of these three toys. Enjoy!

Ah, especially for the gorilla mode, yeah. I remember being put off by that profile shot of the gorilla mode, it does seem more cohesive as a whole with the smash and change toy.

Yessir, gorillas have pretty big noggins IRL.

Just watched PrimeVsPrime's review of voyager Optimus Primal in 4K and it's a little better than I expected. But I'm still not picking it up due to the head size, color, and butt flap.

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....
I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?

People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.

I don't see them going to the trouble of giving it opening hands and wrist swivels just for a large toy for kids. But, I guess we'll have to wait an see what it turns out to be.

It'll likely be along the lines of the Ultimate class toy that were released in the Cyberverse line. Large and imposing, but basic and brick-like.

Well, looking at the ad, it has opening fingers, wrist swivels, elbows, shoulder joints, what looks like a waist swivel. So not very brick like... but I get your point.

So I went to my Target, and there wasn't much there. All there was, was one BM Cheetor and the Beast Armor figures. Optimus Primal had the alligator removed and replaced with one of those cheap vinyl dinosaur figures, I'm not sure they're selling those at Target. So I came home and made a large order from Amazon. All I need now is the Voyagers and the one Alligator Battle Master. My question is, what else is out there? Do we have a rundown of waves 1 and 2? My gut tells me that due to the delay, both waves are going to be pushed out faster than we think and some things might get lost in the shuffle.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I went to my Target, and there wasn't much there. All there was, was one BM Cheetor and the Beast Armor figures. Optimus Primal had the alligator removed and replaced with one of those cheap vinyl dinosaur figures, I'm not sure they're selling those at Target. So I came home and made a large order from Amazon. All I need now is the Voyagers and the one Alligator Battle Master. My question is, what else is out there? Do we have a rundown of waves 1 and 2? My gut tells me that due to the delay, both waves are going to be pushed out faster than we think and some things might get lost in the shuffle.

Good question, I will make a list

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I went to my Target, and there wasn't much there. All there was, was one BM Cheetor and the Beast Armor figures. Optimus Primal had the alligator removed and replaced with one of those cheap vinyl dinosaur figures, I'm not sure they're selling those at Target. So I came home and made a large order from Amazon. All I need now is the Voyagers and the one Alligator Battle Master. My question is, what else is out there? Do we have a rundown of waves 1 and 2? My gut tells me that due to the delay, both waves are going to be pushed out faster than we think and some things might get lost in the shuffle.

Here's what's in the line. Looking through it, the stuff that we didn't news yet that you should have access to are the converting masks and the remaining flex changers. I'm currently doing a round up of the beast combiners.

Core Deluxe (all out at once but not found in US yet)
Wave 1
Airazor
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Wave 2
Autobot Mirage
Nightbird
Wheeljack


Voyager Class (all at once but not found in US yet)
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox

Beast Battle Masters (all released)
Wave 1
Cheetor
Rhinox
Skullcruncher

Battle Changers (the waves in this one are unclear, US got the first 3 listed)
Bumblebee
Optimus Prime
Rhinox
Autobot Mirage
Scourge

Beast Weaponizers (all at once, but only wave 1 has been found in US so far)
Wave 1
Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
Wave 2
Wheeljack & Rhinox

Beast Combiners (only wave 1 spotted anywhere)
Wave 1
Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
Arcee & Silverfang
Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Wave 2
Scourge & Predacon Scorponok


Blaster Optimus Prime Blaster (released)

Converting Masks Bumblebee Optimus Primal (released)

Smash Changer (released all at once but only wave 1 found in US)
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox

Beast Mode (not released in US yet)
Beast Mode Bumblebee
Beast Mode Optimus Prime

Flex Changers (released in US)
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Nightbird

Titan Changers (released in US, only Cheetor is new)
Cheetor
Megatron
Optimus Prime

Exclusives
Deluxe Scorponok
2 Jungle Mission 3 packs
Smash Changer Scourge
Spark Racers Barricade Bumblebee Optimus Prime
Spark Chargers Battletrap Bumblebee Megatron
Larger toys (Nitro series) Starscream Optimus Prime

Man, I was so looking forward to getting ROTB Wheeljack. He would have been a bought on site figure, but looking at the pictures. I’m kinda let down. You would think Volkswagen would have given them permission to use an actual Samba Panel Van as Jackie’s toy Alt. Mode, seeing how Volkswagen owns Porsche. And since VW gave them permission with making a Beetle Bumblebee toy when the Bumblebee Movie came out. I hope there is a better looking Alt. Mode, because I’m not a fan of the toy’s vehicle form. After seeing those pictures, he’s going to be a clearance buy now. What a complete let down!

I think the Core figures aren't licensed.

BIGGUY007 wrote:Man, I was so looking forward to getting ROTB Wheeljack. He would have been a bought on site figure, but looking at the pictures. I’m kinda let down. You would think Volkswagen would have given them permission to use an actual Samba Panel Van as Jackie’s toy Alt. Mode, seeing how Volkswagen owns Porsche. And since VW gave them permission with making a Beetle Bumblebee toy when the Bumblebee Movie came out. I hope there is a better looking Alt. Mode, because I’m not a fan of the toy’s vehicle form. After seeing those pictures, he’s going to be a clearance buy now. What a complete let down!

The toy you posted is from the mainline where none of the cars look like their licensed selves. We have to wait for the reveal of Studio Series Wheeljack to see if he will get a licensed alt mode or not.

Also, just an FYI, one car company owning another has no bearing in the world of licensing since licensing agreements are solely with the individual company (car make).

william-james88 wrote:

Siger wrote:

It's the colours, right?

Yeah, and proportions. Voyager's got a tiny head.

Ah, especially for the gorilla mode, yeah. I remember being put off by that profile shot of the gorilla mode, it does seem more cohesive as a whole with the smash and change toy.

And for our fandom especially, Gorilla-formers + too-small-heads = ANIMORPHS flashbacks!





Doubly appropriate after that commercial.