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Re: 2020 Transformers War for Cybertron Toyline Fan Vote

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:47 am
by Bounti76
I'm sorry, but Ratchet looks pretty awful. The head is fine, but that stark sea of white, offset only by tiny patches of red .... it's the most boring deco in ages.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:40 am
by Inactive_____
This fella arrived on Wednesday morning, and I have some thoughts. So, I hope you all don't mind my rambling opinions on this guy.

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Overall, he's much better than I thought he'd be when he was first shown. I think my initial disappointment was due to my own mismanaged expectations towards him, namely, that he's not supposed to be a direct successor to the Original Cybertron toy, and instead he's a blend of that and G1 to bring him into the Generations styling.

That being said, I have my quibbles, and I'll briefly go over them now. Firstly, and let's not beat around the bush, the separate cab mode is pretty awful.

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It's by far the weakest mode, and it's understandable that a toy that does this much is going to have a mode that's lower on the priority list. But this cab isn't just passable, like POTP Orion Pax's was, but an active detriment, and makes me want to fiddle around with the inner figure less.

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Which is a shame because, despite this guy's odd proportions, I actually like it quite a lot. It has a strange chunky charm that I can't fully explain. It just appeals to me. It's robot mode is also surprisingly detailed and pose-able for something that most people probably will never display on it's own.

The fact is has things like a ball joint neck and ankle tilts took me by surprise, and there's a lot of paint here along with the sculpted details. This robot mode doesn't feel like a stepping stone like POTP Orion does, which is ironic, considering that in terms of pure utility, he's far more of a stepping stone than the former.

I also have to point out that I love the rotating spine piece that the bumper uses to form the backpack. It's just a pit that the cab on it's own is so poor, otherwise I'd be more positive.

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Thankfully, these complaints don't carry over to the combined modes, both of which are fantastic. This might just be the most gorgeous headsculpt I've seen on an Optimus Prime toy since Classics. It's just so imposing looking, and really captures the original look of the cartoon far better than the OG leader. The figure as a whole has such a presence. The painting and detailing is superb and I really appreciate that all weapons can be stores away on the back without cluttering the backpack further.

I only have one real criticism, and that is that I wish that the legs had sideways ratchets and the combined mode boots are rather heavy, which means the legs can;t hold certain poses, and he can occasionally be prone to doing the splits if put into a wide A-frame stance.

Otherwise, this guy is great, and I'm very happy I got him. If I didn't already own the classics, this toy would for sure be my new CHUG Prime.

Thanks for reading my rambling, and I'm sorry I'm so long winded. :oops:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:27 am
by Stargrave
ThunderThruster wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
Skritz wrote:Aw yeah, its our boy Ratchet and he's looking...well, he looks good enough. Damn it Siege, stop making me like 1984 Autobots! :lol:


Dude you’re pooched, these are so cool!

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

I love that notion of autobot seekers, I never thought of it that way but it works perfectly.


I thought I was maybe being too dorky about that :lol:
The Rovers? The Adventurers? Locators? Shoot where’s my thesaurus ...

The Cruisers?


Love that! Yessss!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:30 am
by Stargrave
Gemstonegemini wrote:This fella arrived on Wednesday morning, and I have some thoughts. So, I hope you all don't mind my rambling opinions on this guy.

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Overall, he's much better than I thought he'd be when he was first shown. I think my initial disappointment was due to my own mismanaged expectations towards him, namely, that he's not supposed to be a direct successor to the Original Cybertron toy, and instead he's a blend of that and G1 to bring him into the Generations styling.

That being said, I have my quibbles, and I'll briefly go over them now. Firstly, and let's not beat around the bush, the separate cab mode is pretty awful.

Image

It's by far the weakest mode, and it's understandable that a toy that does this much is going to have a mode that's lower on the priority list. But this cab isn't just passable, like POTP Orion Pax's was, but an active detriment, and makes me want to fiddle around with the inner figure less.

Image

Which is a shame because, despite this guy's odd proportions, I actually like it quite a lot. It has a strange chunky charm that I can't fully explain. It just appeals to me. It's robot mode is also surprisingly detailed and pose-able for something that most people probably will never display on it's own.

The fact is has things like a ball joint neck and ankle tilts took me by surprise, and there's a lot of paint here along with the sculpted details. This robot mode doesn't feel like a stepping stone like POTP Orion does, which is ironic, considering that in terms of pure utility, he's far more of a stepping stone than the former.

I also have to point out that I love the rotating spine piece that the bumper uses to form the backpack. It's just a pit that the cab on it's own is so poor, otherwise I'd be more positive.

Image

Thankfully, these complaints don't carry over to the combined modes, both of which are fantastic. This might just be the most gorgeous headsculpt I've seen on an Optimus Prime toy since Classics. It's just so imposing looking, and really captures the original look of the cartoon far better than the OG leader. The figure as a whole has such a presence. The painting and detailing is superb and I really appreciate that all weapons can be stores away on the back without cluttering the backpack further.

I only have one real criticism, and that is that I wish that the legs had sideways ratchets and the combined mode boots are rather heavy, which means the legs can;t hold certain poses, and he can occasionally be prone to doing the splits if put into a wide A-frame stance.

Otherwise, this guy is great, and I'm very happy I got him. If I didn't already own the classics, this toy would for sure be my new CHUG Prime.

Thanks for reading my rambling, and I'm sorry I'm so long winded. :oops:


Love this review I share so many of the same feelings dude. Hey I know I keep posting this but for a tad less chunk in his trunk you can slide that front grill/backpack off easy! Just rotate him 180 and it slides down down the open his cod piece all the way then over his flat belt buckle side. Shooop, no more caboose and it works for Magnus too bro.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:52 am
by Inactive_____
00Stargrave00 wrote:
Gemstonegemini wrote:TL;DR >:oP


Love this review I share so many of the same feelings dude. Hey I know I keep posting this but for a tad less chunk in his trunk you can slide that front grill/backpack off easy! Just rotate him 180 and it slides down down the open his cod piece all the way then over his flat belt buckle side. Shooop, no more caboose and it works for Magnus too bro.


Thanks! :D I try to write the best reviews I can, and I'm always attempting to improve. And I really do have to gush about how cool the spine piece is. It's such a simple but clever piece of engineering that means the bumper doesn't have to sit on the butt. I hope we see more clever solutions like this in future.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:54 am
by PushYouDown
ThunderThruster wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
Skritz wrote:Aw yeah, its our boy Ratchet and he's looking...well, he looks good enough. Damn it Siege, stop making me like 1984 Autobots! :lol:


Dude you’re pooched, these are so cool!

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

I love that notion of autobot seekers, I never thought of it that way but it works perfectly.


I thought I was maybe being too dorky about that :lol:
The Rovers? The Adventurers? Locators? Shoot where’s my thesaurus ...

The Cruisers?


I'd go with "The Chasers"

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:40 pm
by william-james88
Hey everyone, the wave 2 Siege voyagers took their super sweet time to get to local stores but I finally got Soundwave an Starscream and I 100% back up Shajaki's argument that Starscream is by far the better toy. There isn't much to the transformation but it works well and you get from a cool looking form to another. The legs at the bottom are compact enough that it just adds mass to the jet without it being all that terrible looking.

I have lots of problems with Soundwave though. They clearly favoured the robot mode in looks but I dont feel they did it enough. Like the forearms don't look good and its only to give some skis to the odd alt mode. It doesnt really add anything that would warrant not having cleaner forearms. The transformation is very complex for a result that looks ultra basic and the lamp mode isn't even the right looking one with the arms extended out. In a line where they try to be as G1 as possible, I find it odd they didnt retain the boom box alt mode or something similar instead of going for a "ship" that doesnt look right.

I of course needed a voyager sized soundwave in my collection so I am glad to have one but that's basically where the attraction for this toy starts and ends.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:21 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Bluestreak was the very first Transformers toy I ever got, back in 1984. I love the guy and wish he got more love in the fiction. I am SO getting this one. :D

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:45 pm
by Skritz
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:48 pm
by Stargrave
Yessss I’m so stoked you got those finally! Right on dude.

Screamer’s the best I can’t believe the articulation and detail. And this is a me thing- but you can remove so much of his kibble, if you wanted to have a Starscream arming up scenario.

But that also takes my imagination to what else they could stack on that mold, Like oh you could totally modify just this or whoa all of that and it could be a great Needlenose or whatever.

It’s just a great figure. These are total action figures now more than ever before I think.

I feel you about Soundwave I so feel you but the robot mode rocks it’s fun to load the cassettes and he’s got the angled finger and yellow eyes there is a lot to appreciate despite the faults.

In conclusion, his butts a cockpit. Is it irony? I’m not smart enough to know. Did I have to point it out? Absolutely.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:51 pm
by Skritz
What I want to see with the Siege seeker mold is if they can figure out a way to make coneheads, custom wings and all that. I think getting the full classic trio and the three coneheads would help cement the legacy of this mold as very much the 'Classic Seekers' mold of the 2010.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:58 pm
by Stargrave
No Leobreaker they said, no claw mode they said, they called me maaaad at the University....
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:02 pm
by PushYouDown
Skritz wrote:What I want to see with the Siege seeker mold is if they can figure out a way to make coneheads, custom wings and all that. I think getting the full classic trio and the three coneheads would help cement the legacy of this mold as very much the 'Classic Seekers' mold of the 2010.


I really want the Coneheads as well and I wouldn't mind them being distinct from the tetrajet alt-mode.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:17 pm
by william-james88
Skritz wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)


Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:19 pm
by Stargrave
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)


Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.


One would assume :lol: hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:19 pm
by Ironhidensh
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)


Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.



Quite a few of us love that diaclone deco.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:20 pm
by Hellscream9999
00Stargrave00 wrote:No Leobreaker they said, no claw mode they said, they called me maaaad at the University....
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Nice ;)^

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:23 pm
by william-james88
00Stargrave00 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)


Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.


One would assume :lol: hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?


It comes from the term, "to talk a blue streak", which means yapping away. His name in french is "Jaseur" which means a guy who just talking and wont shut up.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:28 pm
by Hellscream9999
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)


Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.


One would assume :lol: hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?


It comes from the term, "to talk a blue streak", which means yapping away. His name in french is "Jaseur" which means a guy who just talking and wont shut up.

literally never heard of that phrase :-?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:35 pm
by william-james88
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.


A Siege Bluestreak that is blue. ;)


Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.


One would assume :lol: hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?


It comes from the term, "to talk a blue streak", which means yapping away. His name in french is "Jaseur" which means a guy who just talking and wont shut up.

literally never heard of that phrase :-?


It is misleading in the fact that the art does have the diaclone blue version, but its about his speech. Here is the bilingual box which shows his name in french:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:37 pm
by ZeroWolf
I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy :P

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:40 pm
by Hellscream9999
ZeroWolf wrote:I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy :P

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:47 pm
by Skritz
Hellscream9999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy :P

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield


Well, more accurately its said Titan Master's vehicle accessory.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:56 pm
by ZeroWolf
Skritz wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy :P

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield


Well, more accurately its said Titan Master's vehicle accessory.


I see, thanks for the info you two! Must have missed that one.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm
by Stargrave
It’s the darker grey Megatronus one but with the front Bomb Burst cover off. Ah just having fun with him Haha it’s like I’m the Galaxy Upgrade booster club :lol:

I again say I love them both at the time Cybertron Prime was like the coolest a toy could be it was like it does what and what and also WHAT and WHAT else??