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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:34 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
megatronus wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:We'd better get to the 3000 preorders for the pretender suit. That is the main reason I want Grand Max.

If we don't get there and they cancel the pretender shell, I'll cancel my preorder

Now THAT's commitment!

Dude, Pretenders are one of those things that not many people like and not many get made nowadays that I love (thanks for that BURN), and I really want that shell. the figure itself would be cool, especially with the sword and the fact he can stand with my Hasbro Fort Max and he would be slightly different due to the middle head sculpt, but for me it's all about that pretender shell.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:53 am
by megatronus
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
megatronus wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:We'd better get to the 3000 preorders for the pretender suit. That is the main reason I want Grand Max.

If we don't get there and they cancel the pretender shell, I'll cancel my preorder

Now THAT's commitment!

Dude, Pretenders are one of those things that not many people like and not many get made nowadays that I love (thanks for that BURN), and I really want that shell. the figure itself would be cool, especially with the sword and the fact he can stand with my Hasbro Fort Max and he would be slightly different due to the middle head sculpt, but for me it's all about that pretender shell.

That's one expensive shell.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:54 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
megatronus wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
megatronus wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:We'd better get to the 3000 preorders for the pretender suit. That is the main reason I want Grand Max.

If we don't get there and they cancel the pretender shell, I'll cancel my preorder

Now THAT's commitment!

Dude, Pretenders are one of those things that not many people like and not many get made nowadays that I love (thanks for that BURN), and I really want that shell. the figure itself would be cool, especially with the sword and the fact he can stand with my Hasbro Fort Max and he would be slightly different due to the middle head sculpt, but for me it's all about that pretender shell.

That's one expensive shell.

More like icing that makes the cake worth eating. I would buy that figure if it has this one thing that completes it

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:18 am
by gothsaurus
Yeah, I agree that for the price tag this SHOULD have something extra to make it more attractive.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:19 am
by megatronus
I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:31 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
megatronus wrote:I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

I mean, I'm not contending the price, it is reasonable. I'm only willing to pay that price should the pretender shell happen.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they would drop the price should the shell not happen

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:38 am
by megatronus
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
megatronus wrote:I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

I mean, I'm not contending the price, it is reasonable. I'm only willing to pay that price should the pretender shell happen.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they would drop the price should the shell not happen

I don't think they'll drop the price. The assumption is that by the time they reach 3000 units, there's enough cushion in their P&L to provide that bonus shell. If preorders settle at let's say 2500, they're probably still just surpassing the margin needed to make production viable from a business perspective.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:58 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
megatronus wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
megatronus wrote:I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

I mean, I'm not contending the price, it is reasonable. I'm only willing to pay that price should the pretender shell happen.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they would drop the price should the shell not happen

I don't think they'll drop the price. The assumption is that by the time they reach 3000 units, there's enough cushion in their P&L to provide that bonus shell. If preorders settle at let's say 2500, they're probably still just surpassing the margin needed to make production viable from a business perspective.


The cost-effectiveness is probably also why TakaraTomy opted for the existing Waverider tooling and not sculpt a single new part for essentially a bonus item. In fact, from what I've seen with Overlord and Sixshot, the more parts able to be changed out, the more likely that will happen.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:28 pm
by gothsaurus
I get that most of us with our desk jobs can 'afford' this import... but I still lament that it's not more affordable for, you know, the KIDS who might want to buy it. I do know a number of friends who can't pull together the funds for this (or Greatshot either). I have to pour one out for my homies.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:29 pm
by Insurgent
Should i open my legends hot rod or sell? Hhhmmmm. I have the original classics that i still love and don't have character duplicates in my classics collection. But i love his magenta an shao shao looks much nicer than recoil. Just musings on the tram home while fighting a migraine after yet another crappy day at the office.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:10 pm
by chuckdawg1999
Didn't they announce that they made it to the 3000 pre-orders needed for the shell?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:13 pm
by Sabrblade
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Didn't they announce that they made it to the 3000 pre-orders needed for the shell?
No. That was an error on this site's part. The real announcement was the 2000 mark being reached, while the 3000 mark would be a challenge.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:14 pm
by Qwan
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Didn't they announce that they made it to the 3000 pre-orders needed for the shell?

IIRC the announcement was that they'd made it to 2000 preorders so the main man 'bot would be made, and they still had some to go before 3000 and the shell? I'unno for certain, I have trouble understanding things I can read :P , but I think that was our best understanding last I heard.

[Ah, ninja'd again. See Sabrblade above for a considerably more useful answer, naturally.]

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:50 pm
by Agamemnon
Just a heads up for anyone who may have missed out on the earlier Legends Headmasters, it appears that BBTS has new preorders up for many of them. I just checked for kicks to see if I could get Scourge, and he is relisted. The only ones sold out at this time are Super Ginrai, GodBomber, and Octane. I just thought I'd mention it in case anyone was looking for these earlier Legends figs, like maybe that fantastic Blurr...

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:41 pm
by chuckdawg1999
Interesting. Scourge was just reissued to coincide with the Sharkticon release.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:02 pm
by william-james88
If anyone wants to see the latest Legends comics, they are in their own thread takara-legends-manga-thread-p1919398.php#p1919397

Sakamoto is at it again.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:48 pm
by Emerje
Agamemnon wrote:Just a heads up for anyone who may have missed out on the earlier Legends Headmasters, it appears that BBTS has new preorders up for many of them. I just checked for kicks to see if I could get Scourge, and he is relisted. The only ones sold out at this time are Super Ginrai, GodBomber, and Octane. I just thought I'd mention it in case anyone was looking for these earlier Legends figs, like maybe that fantastic Blurr...

Why would anyone buy Super Ginrai at that price when you can get the God Ginrai set for $15 more? Even if you already have God Bomber why not just pay the little extra and sell the first one and get two bonus Headmasters for the trouble?

Emerje

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:49 pm
by Relic0037
It looks like it's official that the Takara Legends Grand Maximus figure won't come with the pretender shell. Takara Tomy Mail's preorder page has stopped accepting orders & it appears the threshold of 3000 was not met. The good news is the goal of 2000+ was met, so while the added bonus won't be included, at least the figure itself will go into production. Here is a link to Takara's web page:

http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810963691/

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:18 pm
by chuckdawg1999
What happens if people cancel?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:22 am
by Emerje
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:38 am
by megatronus
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:12 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
megatronus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.


Waverider retool of PotP Cloudburst. Got a news item dedicated to that:

Possible first look at Transformers Power of the Primes Waverider Decoy Suit mold

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:14 am
by Emerje
megatronus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

Sure, but the molds are currently being used to produce the Cloudburst shell, seems strange to hold up a mold, even for a little while, just so Takara Tomy can mess around with it.

(edit) Just to be clear, by "molding a finished figure" I mean making a figure out of the mold, not making a new mold for the figure.

Emerje

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:19 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Emerje wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

Sure, but the molds are currently being used to produce the Cloudburst shell, seems strange to hold up a mold, even for a little while, just so Takara Tomy can mess around with it.

(edit) Just to be clear, by "molding a finished figure" I mean making a figure out of the mold, not making a new mold for the figure.

Emerje


I'm pretty sure production has already ended for the first wave, so scheduling one right now is no biggie. They're due in March, so there is a little time to make things work.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:57 am
by Insurgent
Is it just me or does kickback have a remoulded face?