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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:32 am
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Well, Nightstick at least has the Universe toy and its bazillion redecoes. Poor Fracas however has only had a PCC Chainclaw redeco.

But hey, maybe Fracas will be one of the Battlemasters for War for Cybertron: Armageddon.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:26 pm
by JelZe GoldRabbit
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, Nightstick at least has the Universe toy and its bazillion redecoes. Poor Fracas however has only had a PCC Chainclaw redeco.

But hey, maybe Fracas will be one of the Battlemasters for War for Cybertron: Armageddon.


That mold actually pulls double duty, thanks to some very confusing switcharoos. The long and the short of it is that Nightstick was named Nebulon (the name on TM Scourge's box, Fracas partner) in Japan, and Fracas was named Nightstick. As such...

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:40 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
I guess it's only fitting that that mold pulls double duty, since it's kinda a Fracas-Nightstick amalgamation.

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Am I the only one who puts Prime Masters in Godbomber's chest?

On the subject of Targetmasters... I think that the Legends releases of Doublecross, TR Windblade, Topspin, and Twin Twist are, shall we say, partial-donkeyed. I say that because they _only_ come with the borrowed Targetmaster partners, leaving them unarmed when said partners are claimed by the matching Targetmasters. Well, Windblade has a sword at least, but it's not one of the swords actually designed for her body. And doesn't do anything for the new Headmaster play ecosystem. Mind you, Slugslinger, Misfire, and Triggerhappy also have the latter problem, but at least the one weapon they do come with is truly meant for them.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:22 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
All of my Prime Masters are on the Throne and the Sceptor of the Primes, that's where I wanted them.

For me, Godbombers chest holds his titan master, but that's it. The rest have some places to go

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:13 pm
by Sabrblade
I've got Shuta, Cab, and Minerva inside that chest, like in the show. Godbomber's little Headmaster is instead set inside the storage cavity of God Ginrai's shoulder cannon.

Though, I've also got something else even deeper inside Super Ginrai's chest cavity beneath the Godbomber chest. It's a little translucent glow-in-the-dark figurine of some sort of anthropomorphic lizard thing. I have no idea what it is or what it's supposed to be from, but it came packaged with a Big Lots KO of Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Megatron that I also have. I placed this lizard figure inside of Super Ginrai's chest to serve as his Getmaster from which Ginrai may be able to channel Beast Power, so as to fully let my God Ginrai toy function as a Triplemaster.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:43 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Ugh, the "Getmaster" thing is one of the dumbest bits from the Legends manga... The "'Get on" from the Masterforce theme seems to me to be an obvious contraction of "Target on!" True, the 1988 Targetmasters wound up not getting a Masterforce release, but that doesn't mean one can't have been planned. Especially early-on, when they had such high hopes for the Pretenders.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:50 pm
by Sabrblade
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Ugh, the "Getmaster" thing is one of the dumbest bits from the Legends manga... The "'Get on" from the Masterforce theme seems to me to be an obvious contraction of "Target on!" True, the 1988 Targetmasters wound up not getting a Masterforce release, but that doesn't mean one can't have been planned. Especially early-on, when they had such high hopes for the Pretenders.
But the whole point of the Masterforce series was ordinary humans becoming giant Transformers and vice-versa. The Targetmaster toys don't work like that since the little gun guys and the larger vehicle guys are, functionally-speaking, completely autonomous from each other. As in, the guns aren't integral to the larger figures at all, whereas both the Headmaster and Powermaster/Godmaster toys were designed to require their smaller figures to achieve their proper robot modes. The idea of "Targetmaster Juniors" wouldn't make sense in the context of Masterforce since there would be no reason for a guy who turns into a gun to be necessary for a larger Transformer to properly function in robot mode since the larger TF could just let go of the gun and still be its own person.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:02 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Ugh, the "Getmaster" thing is one of the dumbest bits from the Legends manga... The "'Get on" from the Masterforce theme seems to me to be an obvious contraction of "Target on!" True, the 1988 Targetmasters wound up not getting a Masterforce release, but that doesn't mean one can't have been planned. Especially early-on, when they had such high hopes for the Pretenders.
But the whole point of the Masterforce series was ordinary humans becoming giant Transformers and vice-versa. The Targetmaster toys don't work like that since the little gun guys and the larger vehicle guys are, functionally-speaking, completely autonomous from each other. As in, the guns aren't integral to the larger figures at all, whereas both the Headmaster and Powermaster/Godmaster toys were designed to require their smaller figures to achieve their proper robot modes. The idea of "Targetmaster Juniors" wouldn't make sense in the context of Masterforce since there would be no reason for a guy who turns into a gun to be necessary for a larger Transformer to properly function in robot mode since the larger TF could just let go of the gun and still be its own person.

They would have found some way to work it in had Takara decided to release the 1988 Targetmasters - possibly their guns being Masterian rather than humans. Not everybody in Masterforce fits the "Humans" theme - just look at Sixknight.
And what other explanation contemporary with the show can you think of for the "'Get on" lyric?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:17 pm
by Sabrblade
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Not everybody in Masterforce fits the "Humans" theme - just look at Sixknight.
Hence why he was only a minor character guest star.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And what other explanation contemporary with the show can you think of for the "'Get on" lyric?
Simple, it's Engrish. Japanese G1 songs were full of things like that. Even songs of other anime series (both back then and even to this day) use Engrish phrases like that because it sounds cool to the Japanese.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:34 am
by o.supreme
Recently, I've seen a flood of sellers from China on eBay selling the LG-EX Big Powered set for seemingly less than most retailers. Anywhere from $90-$120 US and some claim free shipping.

Now of course this raises all sorts of read flags. I've read many descriptions stating that these are *Official :TAKARATOMY: product*, but then again there's all sorts of additional disclaimers about not guaranteeing the condition, and no refunds etc...

I'm always looking for a good deal. I've taken risks before, and come out OK, but I really don't want to get ripped off especially with something like this.

Just curious if anyone else is aware of this, and if they have had experiences good, bad or otherwise. Thank You.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:23 pm
by william-james88
o.supreme wrote:Recently, I've seen a flood of sellers from China on eBay selling the LG-EX Big Powered set for seemingly less than most retailers. Anywhere from $90-$120 US and some claim free shipping.

Now of course this raises all sorts of read flags. I've read many descriptions stating that these are *Official :TAKARATOMY: product*, but then again there's all sorts of additional disclaimers about not guaranteeing the condition, and no refunds etc...

I'm always looking for a good deal. I've taken risks before, and come out OK, but I really don't want to get ripped off especially with something like this.

Just curious if anyone else is aware of this, and if they have had experiences good, bad or otherwise. Thank You.

Care to provide some links? I cant find anything cheaper than 118$ USD

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:31 pm
by o.supreme
william-james88 wrote:Care to provide some links? I cant find anything cheaper than 118$ USD


basically just searching Transformers Legends Big Powered on eBay. yes, the cheapest one I see right now at this moment is $118.99 (in the range I described above), but I had seen some in the past few days that ended which were 90, 100, 105 etc....

Even at $119, That is still better than the $160 BBTS is asking, I just want to make sure it is legit product, and no a KO or damaged/incomplete item.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:34 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
I don't really have any experience in that area, but I would not go for it. It's a bit too good to be true for my liking