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megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.

Mindmaster wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)

I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.

TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.

Sabrblade wrote:I think you might be reaching a bit, here. That Tankor is in show-accurate Beast Machines colors, not Bonaparte Tulcas' colors.



Besides, Bonaparte Tulcas was in this year's BotCon comic, with the comic artist thinking of the name "Landfire" as a proposed TF name for him (it didn't make the cut, but Tulcas still made it in). It's unambiguous as to who this Tankor toy is meant to be.

After all, the usual "mad genius" stuff we get from Takara tends to come from e-HOBBY or in special events or store exclusives and such, rather than the standard mass retail items (Dispensor, notwithstanding).

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Really, we're the ones who are reaching by pointing out a theme? I suppose it's just a massive quinky dink, that the small squat tank man features with the wave that contains both of the neo classics renditions of the G1 Deluxe Vehicles, which also happened have a small squat tank man in their original line up that was nixed last minute. we're the ones who are reaching, yeah okay

Sabrblade wrote:If it actually had Tulcas' deco, then yeah, it'd be more convincing. As is, it just looks more simply like Takara's playing catch up on the current Hasbro molds that they haven't gotten to yet, and it just so happens that Tankor, Whirl, and Roadbuster are among the immediate recent ones. After all, Rattrap's in this too, and he's Tankor's wave mate over here. I'd imagine that Sky-Byte shouldn't be too far along with this line as well. Maybe even Skids, since his mold strangely got overlooked by the Japanese Generations line altogether.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)

I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.

TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.

I think you might be reaching a bit, here. That Tankor is in show-accurate Beast Machines colors, not Bonaparte Tulcas' colors.



Besides, Bonaparte Tulcas was in this year's BotCon comic, with the comic artist thinking of the name "Landfire" as a proposed TF name for him (it didn't make the cut, but Tulcas still made it in). It's unambiguous as to who this Tankor toy is meant to be.

After all, the usual "mad genius" stuff we get from Takara tends to come from e-HOBBY or in special events or store exclusives and such, rather than the standard mass retail items (Dispensor, notwithstanding).

xyl360 wrote:I see no Vehicon faction symbol on Tankor . It's surprising that Takara would exclude a detail like that when Hasbro did not. I have some Reprolabels ones, but still, it's kinda annoying.

Mindmaster wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)

I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.

TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.

megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.

xyl360 wrote:I probably won't buy the other two. I've got Hasbro's Whirl and I'm not that impressed, probably because I never had any attachment to the character since he was never featured on the show. I didn't get Roadbuster and won't buy Takara's for the same reason (I didn't buy Fansproject's version either).

shajaki wrote:

megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.

ha! i think everyone does that with the sourge/sweeps. though i never did get that fracas targetmaster...

i was thinking of having the new tankor (has or tak) leading a few original BM tank drones. just cause theyll be slighyly smaller. also i reeaally hope a third party comes along to make him a better cannon, which would be the perfect chance to give him a key to vector sigma as well!

Sabrblade wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I see no Vehicon faction symbol on Tankor . It's surprising that Takara would exclude a detail like that when Hasbro did not. I have some Reprolabels ones, but still, it's kinda annoying.

Unless they put it somewhere else on his body, since Tankor didn't have a tattoo of his faction on his pec in the show.

megatronus wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I probably won't buy the other two. I've got Hasbro's Whirl and I'm not that impressed, probably because I never had any attachment to the character since he was never featured on the show. I didn't get Roadbuster and won't buy Takara's for the same reason (I didn't buy Fansproject's version either).

I'm a bit confused? There's a difference between being not impressed because the figure is meh, and being uninterested due to no attachment to the character... which is it? One, the other or both?

Not trying to excessively nitpick... just curious

xyl360 wrote:I really have no complaints about Generations Waspinator and Rhinox (especially after doing some parts swapping between Takara's and Hasbro's Waspy and applying a bit of paint).