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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:58 pm
by Wolfman Jake
Interestingly, it seems the artists have modified this character model to better reflect the "compromises" that were made for the leader class mold, notably the lack of paint details on the wings in robot mode, and the lack of scoops on his shoulders, with the thrusters positioned behind the head. Does anyone know if Thundercracker has similarly gotten a make-over to make the art match the toy a little better? I know Thundercracker has had this body type for a while now, but last I knew, he did have the wing paint details and shoulder scoops. I'm curious if these have been changed to give more parity to the recent toy release as well as with Starscream's new appearance.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:06 pm
by shajaki
Don't ask me why I love Apelinq/Sentinel Maximus so much, but I just do. I need this custom to be made officially, and I don't care if a crazt expensive exclusive.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:18 pm
by phantom1592
SillySpringer wrote: #1. Yes Starscream wears a crown in some of the recent comics.

#2. What's wrong with the crown?



#1 So noted. at least it has some bearing...

#2 Like I said, the crown to me is a nod to the 30 seconds or so that Starscream acted like a pretentious moron claiming leadership and getting squashed like a bug.

Admittedly, Starscream IS a pretentious moron who's arrogance has always been his downfall... not saying the crown was out of character. But out of all the autobot OR decepticon leaders the only one I can think of went so far as 'crown' himself would be grimlock... and that's not really the intelligence level you want to be compared to :lol:

Starscream was a cool design, 2nd in command of the bad guys and first in the field most of the time. He did a LOT of cool things over the years... but that crown is beacon to his most embarrassing moment (even by 80's standards).

The constant insistence to pigeonhole him in that one moment doesn't impress me. Maybe they've done more with the comic.... I don't read it, I don't know. I just hope they are forever removable :grin:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:29 pm
by Sabrblade
phantom1592 wrote:#2 Like I said, the crown to me is a nod to the 30 seconds or so that Starscream acted like a pretentious moron claiming leadership and getting squashed like a bug.

Admittedly, Starscream IS a pretentious moron who's arrogance has always been his downfall... not saying the crown was out of character. But out of all the autobot OR decepticon leaders the only one I can think of went so far as 'crown' himself would be grimlock... and that's not really the intelligence level you want to be compared to :lol:

Starscream was a cool design, 2nd in command of the bad guys and first in the field most of the time. He did a LOT of cool things over the years... but that crown is beacon to his most embarrassing moment (even by 80's standards).

The constant insistence to pigeonhole him in that one moment doesn't impress me. Maybe they've done more with the comic.... I don't read it, I don't know. I just hope they are forever removable :grin:
The Starscream in the comics is currently the ruler of Cybertron (a title he was given by popular vote, no less), so he's earned his crown.

And the G1 cartoon Starscream wasn't the only one to crown himself, for there was another Starscream's whose ambitions successfully seized for himself the powers of a god:


Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:02 pm
by ....
Sabrblade wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:#2 Like I said, the crown to me is a nod to the 30 seconds or so that Starscream acted like a pretentious moron claiming leadership and getting squashed like a bug.

Admittedly, Starscream IS a pretentious moron who's arrogance has always been his downfall... not saying the crown was out of character. But out of all the autobot OR decepticon leaders the only one I can think of went so far as 'crown' himself would be grimlock... and that's not really the intelligence level you want to be compared to :lol:

Starscream was a cool design, 2nd in command of the bad guys and first in the field most of the time. He did a LOT of cool things over the years... but that crown is beacon to his most embarrassing moment (even by 80's standards).

The constant insistence to pigeonhole him in that one moment doesn't impress me. Maybe they've done more with the comic.... I don't read it, I don't know. I just hope they are forever removable :grin:
The Starscream in the comics is currently the ruler of Cybertron (a title he was given by popular vote, no less), so he's earned his crown.

And the G1 cartoon Starscream wasn't the only one to crown himself, for there was another Starscream's whose ambitions successfully seized for himself the powers of a god:




Yup yup exactly what I thought of when I saw his crown.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:11 pm
by shajaki
Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it... [-(

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:35 pm
by ....
shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it... [-(


Yeah you can THROW IT AWAY IF YOU DON'T WANT IT. It's not like you pay extra money for the crown! Sheesh people! 8-|

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:46 pm
by Wolfman Jake
shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it... [-(


He's like the Transformers' version of Jughead, except Starscream is infinitely more likeable and interesting.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:56 pm
by ....
Wolfman Jake wrote:
shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it... [-(


He's like the Transformers' version of Jughead, except Starscream is infinitely more likeable and interesting.


Lol yeah Starscream is my favorite Decepticon! ;)

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:11 pm
by william-james88
Wolfman Jake wrote:
shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it... [-(


He's like the Transformers' version of Jughead, except Starscream is infinitely more likeable and interesting.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:19 pm
by william-james88
phantom1592 wrote:
Still, apparently the height and style isn't THAT far from MP... and it's a lot cheaper. (also may be nice to have a bit of difference between Thundercracker and Starscream....

But I just don't know...


REALLY dislike seeing Starscream with a crown... Is that something that was brought back for the comic? or is it still dredging that up from the 30 seconds he wore it in the movie?


If you dont like Crowned Starscreams, I am afraid this might not be your year because not only are we getting this Leader Starscream but this is finally the year Hasbro releases MP11 for the west, probably with crown and all. So yeah, 2 MP scale crowned starscreams the same year.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:21 pm
by ....
william-james88 wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
Still, apparently the height and style isn't THAT far from MP... and it's a lot cheaper. (also may be nice to have a bit of difference between Thundercracker and Starscream....

But I just don't know...


REALLY dislike seeing Starscream with a crown... Is that something that was brought back for the comic? or is it still dredging that up from the 30 seconds he wore it in the movie?


If you dont like Crowned Starscreams, I am afraid this might not be your year because not only are we getting this Leader Starscream but this is finally the year Hasbro releases MP11 for the west, probably with crown and all. So yeah, 2 MP scale crowned starscreams the same year.


Lol what is wrong with the crown? If you don't like the crown, then SET IT ASIDE. 8-|
Why is that so hard Phantom1592?

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:27 pm
by william-james88
SillySpringer wrote:Lol what is wrong with the crown? If you don't like the crown, then SET IT ASIDE. 8-|
Why is that so hard Phantom1592?


Lets not trouble the guy too much with this, he said why he didnt like it already. He knows he can remove the crown and he is fine with that, he was just speaking his piece on how he doesnt see it as a necessary accessory to be tied to. And I do understand him in a way. It's like if FOC grimlock came with an apron. Sure, its a fun G1 homage but it doesnt need to now become part of the character's design.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:52 am
by -Kanrabat-
I really should get to read the recent comics. Having starscream the "prime minister" of Cybertron... AWESOME! :KREMZEEK:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:58 am
by shajaki
william-james88 wrote:....but this is finally the year Hasbro releases MP11 for the west, probably with crown and all. So yeah, 2 MP scale crowned starscreams the same year.
Just wondering what the basis for this speculation. I thought we had a computer listing of MP SS that was the same price as Acid Storm? I have my doubts that SS will have the coronation gear.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:46 am
by Sabrblade
-Kanrabat- wrote:I really should get to read the recent comics. Having starscream the "prime minister" of Cybertron... AWESOME! :KREMZEEK:
"Prime Minister" would be putting it mildly. :P

"High Chancellor Starscream of the Refulgent Cybertronian Dynasty, Emperor Perpetua and Defender of the Realm". :lol:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:51 am
by Agamemnon
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I really should get to read the recent comics. Having starscream the "prime minister" of Cybertron... AWESOME! :KREMZEEK:
"Prime Minister" would be putting it mildly. :P

High Chancellor Starscream of the Refulgent Cybertronian Dynasty, Emperor Perpetua and Defender of the Realm". :lol:

Aha! Starscream's ghost must have spent some time possessing Calvin when he led G.R.O.S.S :lol:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:46 am
by william-james88
shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:....but this is finally the year Hasbro releases MP11 for the west, probably with crown and all. So yeah, 2 MP scale crowned starscreams the same year.
Just wondering what the basis for this speculation. I thought we had a computer listing of MP SS that was the same price as Acid Storm? I have my doubts that SS will have the coronation gear.


It was never confirmed that this year's MP SS would have coronation gear. But seeing as we never got that figure, I thought it would make sense. Grimlock got his coronation gear afterall ;) And yes, it would almost be too good to be true at the price they are listing it at.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:00 pm
by phantom1592
william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Lol what is wrong with the crown? If you don't like the crown, then SET IT ASIDE. 8-|
Why is that so hard Phantom1592?


Lets not trouble the guy too much with this, he said why he didnt like it already. He knows he can remove the crown and he is fine with that, he was just speaking his piece on how he doesnt see it as a necessary accessory to be tied to. And I do understand him in a way. It's like if FOC grimlock came with an apron. Sure, its a fun G1 homage but it doesnt need to now become part of the character's design.



Exactly.

Anything that's removable, I'm perfectly fine with. If they glue it on or something, I'd be more annoyed. I've only seen the one picture so far with him wearing it... and I don't care for the look. That's all.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:12 pm
by shajaki
Oh, if that crown were molded on... there would be MANY complaints. I like the crown, but I like options better ;)

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:06 pm
by ....
william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Lol what is wrong with the crown? If you don't like the crown, then SET IT ASIDE. 8-|
Why is that so hard Phantom1592?


Lets not trouble the guy too much with this, he said why he didnt like it already. He knows he can remove the crown and he is fine with that, he was just speaking his piece on how he doesnt see it as a necessary accessory to be tied to. And I do understand him in a way. It's like if FOC grimlock came with an apron. Sure, its a fun G1 homage but it doesnt need to now become part of the character's design.


True true. Sorry Phantom1592. :oops:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:31 pm
by no-one
Sabrblade wrote:"High Chancellor Starscream of the Refulgent Cybertronian Dynasty, Emperor Perpetua and Defender of the Realm"

Say that 3 times fast.

Is that really his title? I would assume self given?

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:22 pm
by ....
carytheone wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"High Chancellor Starscream of the Refulgent Cybertronian Dynasty, Emperor Perpetua and Defender of the Realm"

Say that 3 times fast.

Is that really his title? I would assume self given?


Lol it's gotta be self given! XD Man I love Starscream. :lol:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:45 pm
by King Kuuga
Extremely self-given. I think his official title is "President".

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:39 pm
by ....
That Bot wrote:Extremely self-given. I think his official title is "President".


Starscream is a better president than Obama. Does Starscream play golf all day instead of dealing with important stuff? No! >:oP