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Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:56 am**

Griffin, the owner of Australian fansite Ozformers, has attended Toyfair Australia 2015 and has posted a quick summary of what he saw and heard. Please keep in mind that the mention of release dates and exclusivity are most probably only in regards to Australian or Asian retail.

He wrote the following schedule for the Takara MP releases:

Gold bumblebeeJuly
Convoy reissue
Tracks (he states this is not MP25)
MP25 in Sept (he couldnt reveal the name of MP 25)
Two new "sports cars" for October and November

He then gives a breakdown of the exclusivity (at australian retail) for the platinum releases:

Myer¸: Seeker pack and YOTG pair

ToysRUs: Insecticon pack, Perceptor/Blaster, Trypticon, and Dinobots.

While this last news may be fun, it should be noted that this could be a reissue of the G1 deco AOE Dinobots that were released at Comiccon, similarly to how the FOC Bruticus issued at Comiccon was eventually released as a platinum set.

It was also mentioned that if Hasbro do a GEN Slingshot & Wildrider they would come out next year as Combiners are going to be at least two years. This is in line with the statement from Hasbro that only 16 Gen deluxes would be released in 2015.

Also, leader Starscream (redeco of Leader Thundercracker) would be part of wave 4.

The two Hasbro MP releases of this year would be MP Starscream (MP11) and MP Bluestreak, the later will be released in July.

Lastly, it was mentioned that Loyal Subjects wave 3 should be out in the next month (April).

The Australia Toy fair started March 3 and will end the 6th.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:10 am**

When I read the part up top about the Dinobots I literally blurted "Dinobots?!" out loud.
...And then I saw the part about the possibility of AOE Dinobots. #-o

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:16 am**

So then Tracks really isn't MP-25, despite the news even on this site?

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:18 am**

Rodimus Prime wrote:So then Tracks really isn't MP-25, despite the news even on this site?

This is new to us too - we'll see what further developments there are. :-?

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:20 am**

Va'al wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So then Tracks really isn't MP-25, despite the news even on this site?

This is new to us too - we'll see what further developments there are.

I'm not questioning your news reporting. I do think the 25th MP should be a figure of a more important character than Tracks. Kup, maybe? He deserves some MP recognition, he was a major player of TF:TM and season 3.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:32 am**

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So then Tracks really isn't MP-25, despite the news even on this site?

This is new to us too - we'll see what further developments there are.
I'm not questioning your news reporting. I do think the 25th MP should be a figure of a more important character than Tracks. Kup, maybe? He deserves some MP recognition, he was a major player of TF:TM and season 3.

That's what's been bothering me about the Tracks news. He just doesn't seem special enough for a milestone number

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:39 am**

Desslok2201 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So then Tracks really isn't MP-25, despite the news even on this site?

This is new to us too - we'll see what further developments there are.
I'm not questioning your news reporting. I do think the 25th MP should be a figure of a more important character than Tracks. Kup, maybe? He deserves some MP recognition, he was a major player of TF:TM and season 3.

That's what's been bothering me about the Tracks news. He just doesn't seem special enough for a milestone number

I'm not questioning you questioning either!

This is just a bit ..odd. Also because of this: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=102970&p=1658664#p1658664

As I said, we'll see what comes out of it. Hmm.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:09 am**

william-james88 wrote:
It was also mentioned that IF Hasbro do a GEN Slingshot & Wildrider

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:25 am**

Tracks is definitely MP-25:

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:53 am**

Sabrblade wrote:Tracks is definitely MP-25:

Indeed.
Also, why would Tracks have been revealed before this mystery MP-25? Not sure what's happened here. :-?

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:07 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:Tracks is definitely MP-25:

That's disappointing. Oh well. Maybe whoever stirred this up mistook MP-26 for MP-25...?

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:08 pm**

The only possible reason i could think of, if this Tracks-not-25 is true, is that the constant whining of some fans on how StarSaber is NOT G1 enough got them good and Tracks is made MP24 instead while SS gets a new special numbering.

But MORE MPS!! :DANCE:

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:12 pm**

guarayakha wrote:The only possible reason i could think of, if this Tracks-not-25 is true, is that the constant whining of some fans on how StarSaber is NOT G1 enough got them good and Tracks is made MP24 instead while SS gets a new special numbering.

I think that's unlikely. Starsaber is too far along in promotion to be significantly altered.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:13 pm**

guarayakha wrote:The only possible reason i could think of, if this Tracks-not-25 is true, is that the constant whining of some fans on how StarSaber is NOT G1 enough got them good and Tracks is made MP24 instead while SS gets a new special numbering.

But MORE MPS!!

That's what I was thinking, but the MP-24 number was given to Star Saber long before MP-23 Exhaust was announced I believe.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:20 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
guarayakha wrote:The only possible reason i could think of, if this Tracks-not-25 is true, is that the constant whining of some fans on how StarSaber is NOT G1 enough got them good and Tracks is made MP24 instead while SS gets a new special numbering.

But MORE MPS!!

That's what I was thinking, but the MP-24 number was given to Star Saber long before MP-23 Exhaust was announced I believe.

Oh man, that is super interesting. But you know, the whole MP numbering is off. Like why does Exhaust and Red alert get a new MP # when Tigertrack and Acid storm dont.

And I wont even bring up how the recent Grimlock was listed as MP-03 #-o

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:26 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
guarayakha wrote:The only possible reason i could think of, if this Tracks-not-25 is true, is that the constant whining of some fans on how StarSaber is NOT G1 enough got them good and Tracks is made MP24 instead while SS gets a new special numbering.

But MORE MPS!!

That's what I was thinking, but the MP-24 number was given to Star Saber long before MP-23 Exhaust was announced I believe.

Oh man, that is super interesting. But you know, the whole MP numbering is off. Like why does Exhaust and Red alert get a new MP # when Tigertrack and Acid storm dont.

And I wont even bring up how the recent Grimlock was listed as MP-03

Alert and Exhaust are mass retail remolded new characters like Streak and Smokescreen. Tigertrack and Acid Storm were exclusives, the latter of which being an imported Hasbro figure.

As for that Grimlock, Hasbro doesn't use the same numbering that Takara uses.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:32 pm**

Today I learned everyone still puts entirely too much stock into the numbers given to MPs. >:oP

What's most important here is the potential for reissue G1 Dinobots. Hopefully this is what "Platinum" means in this case. This is important because a blue chested G1 Swoop needs to be a thing that happens. Don't want to pay four figures for a Diaclone one.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:37 pm**

ScottyP wrote:Today I learned everyone still puts entirely too much stock into the numbers given to MPs.

What's most important here is the potential for reissue G1 Dinobots. Hopefully this is what "Platinum" means in this case. This is important because a blue chested G1 Swoop needs to be a thing that happens. Don't want to pay four figures for a Diaclone one.

"Platinum" does not mean reissue. The Platinum Editions are special editions of certain toys, and currently integrated in Generations, which means they could be anything, like the G1-deco AoE Dinos from SDCC mentioned before.

I did a double-check, and the G1 Dinobot molds are still confirmed lost.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:40 pm**

ScottyP wrote:Today I learned everyone still puts entirely too much stock into the numbers given to MPs.

What's most important here is the potential for reissue G1 Dinobots. Hopefully this is what "Platinum" means in this case. This is important because a blue chested G1 Swoop needs to be a thing that happens. Don't want to pay four figures for a Diaclone one.

Dude, that's what I'm saying! Who gives a **** about MP numbers? I want me some proper Dinos!

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:49 pm**

Alpha Dominus wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Today I learned everyone still puts entirely too much stock into the numbers given to MPs.

What's most important here is the potential for reissue G1 Dinobots. Hopefully this is what "Platinum" means in this case. This is important because a blue chested G1 Swoop needs to be a thing that happens. Don't want to pay four figures for a Diaclone one.

Dude, that's what I'm saying! Who gives a **** about MP numbers? I want me some proper Dinos!

With the Dinobot molds lost, I'd say invest in the new MP scale Fans Toys stuff or go to ebay and get some original g1 dinos. That movieverse stuff is crap, no matter how much chrome they throw at it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:54 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:"Platinum" does not mean reissue. The Platinum Editions are special editions of certain toys, and currently integrated in Generations, which means they could be anything, like the G1-deco AoE Dinos from SDCC mentioned before.

I am aware of this, hence words such as "potential" and "hopefully" were chosen. I just think the possibilities of what could be done with those molds as reissues is way more fun to talk about than the entirely arbitrary and unimportant numbering system for Masterpiece toys.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I did a double-check, and the G1 Dinobot molds are still confirmed lost.

Right that's what the TF Wiki has said for a long time with absolutely no citation. Regardless, I'm sure if the KO makers of the world can reverse-engineer the Dinobots with pretty darn good success, an operation as large as Hasbro or Takara Tomy would have little trouble with it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:55 pm**

Alpha Dominus wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Today I learned everyone still puts entirely too much stock into the numbers given to MPs.

What's most important here is the potential for reissue G1 Dinobots. Hopefully this is what "Platinum" means in this case. This is important because a blue chested G1 Swoop needs to be a thing that happens. Don't want to pay four figures for a Diaclone one.

Dude, that's what I'm saying! Who gives a **** about MP numbers? I want me some proper Dinos!

The numbering in this case has some importance; If Tracks isn't 25 (which he must be due to his appearance in magazines but); that would mean another unknown MP would be on the way. This would obviously excite people. We like getting MP's

(I still call boo hockey on this whole thing though)

However, I don't understand the importance of a number in instances like 'OMG Star Saber is MP 24 wtf TT no Megatron!! :BOOM:

!!!! or the constant questions implying Exhaust isn't allowed to be part of the main number system. Not sure how that happens.

And by the by, Tracks not being important enough a character to be that special milestone 25 isn't really valid. 25 isn't a milestone in a series where 6 of the first nine characters were either duplicates: (convoy) or characters who have since been ret-coned via new molds or tooling (Convoy, Magnus, Starscream etc) MP-25 is technically the 15th in the line since it's re-focus.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:57 pm**

No one's mentioned the two "sports cars" yet, but just for speculation's sake, the remaining 84-85 'sports cars' are: cliffjumper, jazz, sunstreaker, windcharger. That makes me smile.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:59 pm**

hinomars19 wrote:or the constant questions as to why Exhaust isn't allowed to be part of the main number system. Not sure how that happens.

But Exhaust is part of the main number system. He's MP-23.

Posted: **Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:10 pm**

ScottyP wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:"Platinum" does not mean reissue. The Platinum Editions are special editions of certain toys, and currently integrated in Generations, which means they could be anything, like the G1-deco AoE Dinos from SDCC mentioned before.

I am aware of this, hence words such as "potential" and "hopefully" were chosen. I just think the possibilities of what could be done with those molds as reissues is way more fun to talk about than the entirely arbitrary and unimportant numbering system for Masterpiece toys.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I did a double-check, and the G1 Dinobot molds are still confirmed lost.

Right that's what the TF Wiki has said for a long time with absolutely no citation. Regardless, I'm sure if the KO makers of the world can reverse-engineer the Dinobots with pretty darn good success, an operation as large as Hasbro or Takara Tomy would have little trouble with it.

I still wouldn't put too much faith in G1 Dinobot reissues, because all reissues in the Platinum series have been released at least once before, meaning the molds are readily available:

Predaking: 2004, 2010
Insecticons: Transformers Collection, Universe 2008
Seekers: 2000 Japan convention exclusives, planned for Commemorative Series with only Dirge released.
Astrotrain: Transformers Collection, Commemorative Series
Blitzwing: Transformers Collection

I'd like to be proven wrong though, but again, production costs as I described earlier may put a wrench in that.

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