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Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:19 am**

Sabrblade wrote:Man, that quite a gut he has:

Fits his character IMO.

These last in hand pictures have looked a lot better. Glad to see the chest/neck area doesn't have to look as odd as it did in the first pictures released. I'm still firmly seated on the fence.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:01 pm**

munkimus prime wrote:I just don't get the hate this figure is receiving. This is probably the definitive version of Ironhide we will ever get. One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing. What do you people want the designers to do, use black Magic to copy a design that in Robot mode had zero vehicle bits on show to work with and still transform into a van. I doubt even Hasui could of engineered that and still make it look good. This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail.

Sir, you obviously haven't seen Voodoo Robots version. The proportions are amazing and it doesn't have the hip kibble.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:42 pm**

Well at least there are Options to choose from if you don't like MP Ironhide bye the Third party MP figures we have Options. I do agree that the Voodoo Toys Figure looks amazing it is nice and Clean in Bot Mode, But I like this Ironhide too. I respect other peoples opinions and I am not going to criticize them for not liking this figure it's their own Opinion

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:54 pm**

Mykltron wrote:
munkimus prime wrote:I just don't get the hate this figure is receiving. This is probably the definitive version of Ironhide we will ever get. One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing. What do you people want the designers to do, use black Magic to copy a design that in Robot mode had zero vehicle bits on show to work with and still transform into a van. I doubt even Hasui could of engineered that and still make it look good. This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail.

Sir, you obviously haven't seen Voodoo Robots version. The proportions are amazing and it doesn't have the hip kibble.

It also isn't shooting for the screen accuracy elsewhere.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:06 pm**

Doctor McGrath wrote:
Mykltron wrote:
munkimus prime wrote:I just don't get the hate this figure is receiving. This is probably the definitive version of Ironhide we will ever get. One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing. What do you people want the designers to do, use black Magic to copy a design that in Robot mode had zero vehicle bits on show to work with and still transform into a van. I doubt even Hasui could of engineered that and still make it look good. This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail.

Sir, you obviously haven't seen Voodoo Robots version. The proportions are amazing and it doesn't have the hip kibble.

It also isn't shooting for the screen accuracy elsewhere.

This is it, I'm assuming?

I'm fine with people liking the mp, but lets not kid ourselves, mp ironhide isn't very screen accurate. Sure voodoo's has windows on his feet (but nothing else wrong as near as I can tell), but mp ironhide has that atrocious, over-sized, and cumbersome diaper, obvious hip panels, butt wheels, and those weird hollow/sloping sides, plus, I'm pretty sure his chest panel and face have incorrect proportions too |:|

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:26 pm**

Your comment confuses me. I have no idea which one you are for and which one you are against.

I believe they both have issues. I was simply pointing out to Mykltron that while the proportions may be more appealing to him, I don't think Voodoo's is any more screen accurate than the official incarnation.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:29 pm**

Doctor McGrath wrote:Your comment confuses me. I have no idea which one you are for and which one you are against.

I believe they both have issues. I was simply pointing out to Mykltron that while the proportions may be more appealing to him, I don't think Voodoo's is any more screen accurate than the official incarnation.

Well I'm not getting any of them, but I'm fascinated by this issue. I want to know why ratchet looks so much better than ironhide, but I think voodoo's looks more screen accurate, maybe its' diaper is too small though :HEADHURTS:

But overall, I think it looks better than the mp :-?

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:35 pm**

I like the VooDoo Robots versions, but I don't like the price in comparison to MP Ironhide/Ratchet. Almost the same reason I like KFC Reflectrons over the other two not-Reflector releases. Good enough and cost less :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:38 pm**

itscramtastic wrote:I like the VooDoo Robots versions, but I don't like the price in comparison to MP Ironhide/Ratchet. Almost the same reason I like KFC Reflectrons over the other two not-Reflector releases. Good enough and cost less

Yeah, if that's what it comes down to, I can get behind that argument.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:41 pm**

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:Your comment confuses me. I have no idea which one you are for and which one you are against.

I believe they both have issues. I was simply pointing out to Mykltron that while the proportions may be more appealing to him, I don't think Voodoo's is any more screen accurate than the official incarnation.

Well I'm not getting any of them, but I'm fascinated by this issue. I want to know why ratchet looks so much better than ironhide, but I think voodoo's looks more screen accurate, maybe its' diaper is too small though But overall, I think it looks better than the mp

I think it revolves around the crotch. That and Ratchet's uniform color scheme helps too I believe. Voodoo's is cool but has its problems. Find a picture from the side or back.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:41 pm**

Personally, I think MP-27 looks plenty cartoon-accurate.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:42 pm**

Hellscream9999 wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:I like the VooDoo Robots versions, but I don't like the price in comparison to MP Ironhide/Ratchet. Almost the same reason I like KFC Reflectrons over the other two not-Reflector releases. Good enough and cost less
Yeah, if that's what it comes down to, I can get behind that argument.

Most of these 3rd Party vs HasTak releases, or even 3rd Party to 3rd Party releases are splitting hairs (one looks more accurate here, the other there). This time, MP Ironhide (and MP Ratchet) hit the right spots in looks and cost. For some reason I've been swapping between bot and alt mode a lot lately with my figures, so maybe that's the extra nudge I need here too.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:47 pm**

A very noticeable difference between the cartoon model and the MP in those pics is that the former has a very prominent rectangular flat chest windshield while the latter has a less impressive trapezoidal curvy chest windshield.

His belly also angled inward much more on the cartoon model while the MP has much less inward-angling gut, which is also much wider than his upper torso windshield, giving him a much fatter look than the more broad-chested fit-looking cartoon model.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:52 pm**

Cyberpath wrote:Personally, I think MP-27 looks plenty cartoon-accurate.

+1

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:26 pm**

Doctor McGrath wrote:I think it revolves around the crotch.

Like a crotch revolver?

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:28 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:I think it revolves around the crotch.
Like a crotch revolver?

You are on a roll lately WJ :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:17 pm**

itscramtastic wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Personally, I think MP-27 looks plenty cartoon-accurate.
+1

+ Infinity :-P

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:15 am**

More pix from the Internet:

This one's for you, Cobotron:

More pix: tfnd.net

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Another in-hand gallery: 3935983230243736

Though they forgot to flip down the ab piece, the lighting shows off the mold rather nicely:

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:27 am**

I can hear IH telling the naysayers.............."Awwwww, go chew on a microchip........" or

"Dont hate me because I'm awesome" :lol:

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:40 am**

Cyberpath wrote:This one's for you, Cobotron:

Nice! Too bad he didn't take this shot standing on the sled-amadoo.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:59 am**

Cyberpath wrote:More pix from the Internet

Where does the internet find all of this stuff?! :lol:

Cyberpath wrote:This one's for you, Cobotron:

Oh man Cobs, you're all over this guy now!! :KREMZEEK:

Cyberpath wrote:Though they forgot to flip down the ab piece, the lighting shows off the mold rather nicely:

Thanks for locating all of the shots Cyberpath! And yeah, that last one clinches it, he's amazing!!

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:03 am**

He's such an handsome fella

Can't wait to get him!

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:44 am**

Cyberpath wrote:This one's for you, Cobotron:

HEY KOOL AID! OHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH! :KREMZEEK:

Thanks Pathy! You're alright.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:59 am**

fenrir72 wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Personally, I think MP-27 looks plenty cartoon-accurate.
+1

+ Infinity

+ infinity x infinity. Im sorry but I dont see the praise over the Voodoo version it looks far worse than the MP.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:24 am**

Big In Japan is asking to be paid.......... :APPLAUSE:

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