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1. TAV Powerglide







Reason:For crying out loud! Adding a white dot based on a screw hole? Really guys? I expected better like add a blinking LED shaped like a heart

2. MP-21 Bumble







Reason: This one is MUCH MUCH worst! It's based either on a decal or another screwhole. And I never even noticed it in the show. Just too much the OCD of theses toy designers!

Next....................

Any time they've made a blue Rumble.

Talk about a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation.

Y'all know I'm dead serious with the post

So Unite warriors Dragstrip gets this ugly blotch of black paint to simulate the 2nd set of wheels. It does not work well, and honestly looks pretty bad.

And then on the flipside in the same boxset, Dead End is missing his signature yellow stripe.

I think that my own personal attempts at painting my TF's with black sharpie's, back in the 1980's, was the most stupid attempt at cartoon accuracy, that I can ever remember. I ruined a Metroplex by my own hands!

And that's not all that I broke, or ruined, during the 1980's, my friends. Oh no. I remember breaking a Mospeada Cyclone, a G1 Jetfire, a G1 Scorponok, a G1 Hi-Q, an Orguss Orgroid, a Robotech SDF-1, Gobots, a Godiakin Guardian, a Godiakin Bioman, a Matchbox Vehicle Voltron, etc. etc. etc...

I was quite the little damaja buster kid!

gavinfuzzy wrote:

So Unite warriors Dragstrip gets this ugly blotch of black paint to simulate the 2nd set of wheels. It does not work well, and honestly looks pretty bad.

And then on the flipside in the same boxset, Dead End is missing his signature yellow stripe.

While I agree the additional black on Dragstrip isnt great, and is unnecessary,
I will take that all day over the red-violet "raspberry" color of Hasbro's version...

And I'm sure this isn't a popular opinion either, but I don't miss Dead End's yellow stripe.

Overall, the UW set of these figures is absolutely beautiful!!!
To me.

I always thought the detail on the back of G1 Bumblebee was some sort of fan not a spare tyre.

You may lambaste designers for trying to get too much detail onto their figures but I think the outcry if they didn't bother would be huge and its always nice to have these little nice touches.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Any time they've made a blue Rumble.

Red*

gavinfuzzy wrote:

So Unite warriors Dragstrip gets this ugly blotch of black paint to simulate the 2nd set of wheels. It does not work well, and honestly looks pretty bad.

And then on the flipside in the same boxset, Dead End is missing his signature yellow stripe.

Agreed! Hasbro's was so great and colorful, and in general I just don't think TT's Stunticons are on par with Hasbro's.

I thought the spare tyre on Bumblebee's rear end was for real-world accuracy.

RhA wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Any time they've made a blue Rumble.

Red*

Red would be accurate accurate, not cartoon "stupid" accurate!

hasbroto? am i the only one who noticed that?

Sowndwave76 wrote:

gavinfuzzy wrote:

So Unite warriors Dragstrip gets this ugly blotch of black paint to simulate the 2nd set of wheels. It does not work well, and honestly looks pretty bad.

And then on the flipside in the same boxset, Dead End is missing his signature yellow stripe.

While I agree the additional black on Dragstrip isnt great, and is unnecessary,
I will take that all day over the red-violet "raspberry" color of Hasbro's version...

And I'm sure this isn't a popular opinion either, but I don't miss Dead End's yellow stripe.

Overall, the UW set of these figures is absolutely beautiful!!!
To me.

Yeah, I prefer UW Dragstrip to the CW, it's more cartoon accurate, and it must of physically hurt the Takara designers to have to use LESS paint apps than the Hasbro version.

And while I liked the gold stripe on Dead End, once again, he never had it in the cartoon.

And Motormaster, Breakdown, and Wildrider look leagues better than their Combiner Wars versions. Especially Motormaster. He really needed the Black paint.

I never liked UW Slingshots all orange face. I prefer him having a blue visor to break up all that Orange. On the same figure that black line down the centre of his and Fireflights jet mode just to mimic that strut on the G1 toy doesn't look right. It's kind of weird that they give Slingshot the all orange head for cartoon accuracy but then go for toy accuracy with that black line.

fenrir72 wrote:1. TAV Powerglide

Reason:For crying out loud! Adding a white dot based on a screw hole? Really guys?

I dunno... While not a detail I'd miss if it was absent, I think the white dot on his forehead is kind of neat. I'd take much greater issue with the giant white dot on his chest! (Although that's a question of ruining a figure for the sake of a gimmick, rather than detracting from figure by striving too much for cartoon accuracy.)

fenrir72 wrote:2. MP-21 Bumble

Reason: This one is MUCH MUCH worst! It's based either on a decal or another screwhole. And I never even noticed it in the show. Just too much the OCD of theses toy designers!

I don't own MP Bumblebee, and it's been a while since I watched a review... but if memory serves, isn't the spare tire an optional part you can leave off of him with no determent to the figure? If so, it doesn't seem like something to get that worked up about if you dislike it!

Optimum Supreme wrote:Any time they've made a blue Rumble.

I'm guessing you wouldn't like how I display any pair of Frenzy and Rumble that I own, then.

munkimus prime wrote:It's kind of weird that they give Slingshot the all orange head for cartoon accuracy but then go for toy accuracy with that black line.

Ah, but the black line is also cartoon accurate:

munkimus prime wrote:It's kind of weird that they give Slingshot the all orange head for cartoon accuracy but then go for toy accuracy with that black line.

Ah, but the black line is also cartoon accurate:

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Ok I didn't know that. I still think the Black line was unnecessary and looks weird.

I hate it when Starscream has inverted Wing Logos because of the cartoon.

I do actually like MP Bumblebee's spare wheel cover though I've seen Vintage beetles sporting those, and he has been drawn with that a time or two in the comics over the years too.

Funny how so few Transformers cars over the years have detail on the Numberplates though isn't it. That always stands out to me as a really obvious omission - I keep thinking label makers should make sets of stickers that are just one big sheet of number plates to use on whatever toy suits them.

Uhh guys.................you do know that this thread is pretty much "not" serious no?

The Cartoon didn't seem to have a clue where Starscream's "Cluster Bombs" would come from - leading to some amusing attempts at retrofitting on the Robotmasters and Masterpiece toys.

I still think it's a bit of a shame that there is the age old cartoon issue (see Transformers Armada) where Missiles fire laser beams.

Otherwise perhaps the original Cartoon might have remembered the Decepticon Jets had a Missiles option on their wing launchers - I think one rocket one Missile looks sort of cool - it would be consistent with the look often given to Grapple, Hoist, Inferno or Trailbreaker, Though if the cartoon had been paying attention more it would have realised that their Weapon hands are supposed to be exchangeable/retractable. Then you would have silly scenes of Trailbreaker using his Missile hand when making a force field.

I suppose the issue in a current cartoon that has me chin stroking is the use of Visible Allspark blue in Transformers vehicle modes.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Oh my that pic would be perfect for any kind of discussion of toy/show scale accuracy . I think G1 Blaster's hand is bigger than G1 Slingshot's front nose/cockpit section.

So anyway, Hasbro made a really really nice leader Bulkhead back in the day...



....but put a non-removable buzz saw in one of the hands. At least the missiles can be taken off. I still like the figure anyway.

How about the recent Botcon Battletrap?



That black mark simulates where the rub sign on the G1 on was:



That's a little silly but still pretty cool though...
And dang why didn't they release that repaint to general retail instead of say Doubledealer? Oh yeah...



Bird(shark?) paint markings does not equal bird mode!!