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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:35 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Actually, Hasbro probably never SHOULD touch it again, and the molds for the time they did should be destroyed. Similarly, this kit should be canceled and destroyed. That or receive an enormous price hike to compensate Don Figeueroa not only for this use of the design but also for Andy Schmidt stealing the design and Hasbro making it into a toy without credit or compensation.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:58 am
by ZeroWolf
Why would they have to do either of those things? Hasbro clearly own the design so they can do what ever they want with it.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:50 am
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
ZeroWolf wrote:Why would they have to do either of those things? Hasbro clearly own the design so they can do what ever they want with it.
Because the design was created by Don Figueroa. Andy Schmidt said he wanted to work out a deal with Don to use it, but then stood Don up and used the design in The Transformers #13 with no compensation or credit given to Don. Hasbro then compounded the art theft by making it into a toy - also without giving compensation or credit to Don.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:02 am
by ZeroWolf
Considering the time frame and the fact that the toy has been used three times (two Megatrons and a dreadwind) I'm going to guess that whatever legal battle (if pushed) was settled, hence why hasbro is allowing this. Also of consideration was Don working in any capacity for Hasbro at the time? They may have decided that the design already belonged to them (and if Don had signed a contract, then there is good chance that clause may have been in there). Obviously, if he wasn't then ignore that part.

Rubbish business practices? If course but it's par for the course these days in capitalism, and that's something that sending a letter to hasbro isn't going to fix as only a minority will ever care.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:07 am
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
But do you know who might care, if they're aware of the issue? Fans. Which is why I brought it up here. After all, unless a buyout happened that I don't know about I'm pretty sure that Seibertron is a fan forum, not a Hasbro comment box :P

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:50 am
by ZeroWolf
But do fans care? It's been almost ten years since megs debuted that form, that's been more then enough time for them to deal legal issues.
Actually I did some digging, this is a very interesting thread to read as it was discussed here before, many moons ago.
Here's the thread

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:02 am
by -Kanrabat-
One thing for sure.

I don't care for petty legal battles of any kind from whoever. And I'm pretty sure I'm in the majority.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:45 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
-Kanrabat- wrote:One thing for sure.

I don't care for petty legal battles of any kind from whoever. And I'm pretty sure I'm in the majority.

I'm pretty much in this boat too. If this was the original toy and time, i would care a bit more, but it has been so long now, I don't.

Also, got 5 new kits to build, and I'm going to start with Megatron and Devastator, and then go for SG Prime, Drift, and finally Skywarp

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:43 am
by -Kanrabat-
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Also, got 5 new kits to build, and I'm going to start with Megatron and Devastator, and then go for SG Prime, Drift, and finally Skywarp


Once you're done, make sure to post pictures.
I expect hot thrusting crotch action! 8-)

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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:29 pm
by ThunderThruster
I'm actually torn on whether to get Skywarp or Thundercraker. I have no need or desire to get both, I'm just unsure on which I'd prefer more.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:36 pm
by ZeroWolf
Which colour scheme do you find more eye catching?

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:24 pm
by ThunderThruster
I do seem to be drawn more to Thundercracker's colour scheme in this instance.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:14 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
ThunderThruster wrote:I do seem to be drawn more to Thundercracker's colour scheme in this instance.

I haven't build Skywarp yet, but I have done Thundercracker and Starscream, and to me Thundercracker is the best of the 3 color wise. But again, I haven't build Skywarp yet to see the color in full

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:10 pm
by Burn
Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia. :(

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 pm
by Evil Eye
Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia. :(

That doesn't sound very fun to me. :(

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:09 pm
by Burn
If you haven't realised by now that I'm powered by pure sarcasm ... that's on you. :wink:

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:10 pm
by Evil Eye
Burn wrote:If you haven't realised by now that I'm powered by pure sarcasm ... that's on you. :wink:

Oh I gathered, but "That fact is not fun" is one of my favourite stock gags and...Yeah I'll see myself out. :lol: :(

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:54 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia. :(

Is there a kit that you have been trying to find in particular?

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:06 am
by Burn
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia. :(

Is there a kit that you have been trying to find in particular?

I was bored, figured it'd be something to do in my spare time between work, what with new TV shows not happening these days.

I would have gone for the seekers, but eh.

I found Metal Earth Optimus Prime in one of the unpacked boxes. I guess by the time I'm done I won't need a face mask to stop me from touching my face because my fingers won't be touching anything.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:34 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Burn wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia. :(

Is there a kit that you have been trying to find in particular?

I was bored, figured it'd be something to do in my spare time between work, what with new TV shows not happening these days.

I would have gone for the seekers, but eh.

I found Metal Earth Optimus Prime in one of the unpacked boxes. I guess by the time I'm done I won't need a face mask to stop me from touching my face because my fingers won't be touching anything.

Honestly, I think their seeker mold is the weakest of the kits they have put out so far (yet I got all 3, huh) so I think you ended up doing well missing that mold

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:13 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Finally built my first kit in a while, and I could not be happier with it. IDW Megatron is one of my favorite IDW characters, and this kit is so solid. He turned out really good, great build too. Had some help from my pupper Frankie too

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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:00 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Nice build!

Still, I don't like that Megatron as the Megatron it's supposed to be.

But as a YOUNG version of himself, like a "teen" Megatron (like Orion Pax was to Optimus Prime) it work a lot!

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:13 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Broke out Magnus and some of the purely IDW guys for a group shot. And I love it. This is a group I am in love with and could not be happier with. IDW Megatron is my favorite fictional take on Megatron, he has the best character and the best story to him, and this kit is that love for that character personified as a fantastic toy.

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also worked on Devastator today and he came out great!

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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:13 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Holy. Crap.

This Devastator kit is so much fun. I had a blast building it, and now posing him around? It is a lot of fun. Much more fun than any of the other "attack mode" styled bots yet. He's a blast!

And so expressive!

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"It should be a crime for my ass to be this sexy"
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:39 pm
by ZeroWolf
Stop it! You're making me want him :lol: I wish the kits weren't so expensive to import :(