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Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:02 am
by Evil Eye
Qwan wrote:
Burn wrote:I really should get around to busting mine out of his box.
Just make sure you don't bust the toy itself :P

MadProject wrote:
Black Hat wrote:A 3P upgrade kit that replaces the "cross" of the ratchets (the bit susceptible to tearing due to the shoddiness of the materials) with either really dense plastic or ideally metal would be a great idea. Someone get on it.


I don't know how much that is doable. It should be one solid piece, so basically you'd have to change all the base for the hip
MadProject's right, the cross piece is the same part as the entire base of the hip, so not only would it require a large amount of disassembly (if it even can be disassembled by the consumer; I'll have to look at that) but it'd also be two rather large pieces of metal/sturdy plastic. And given how much even the small 3P products tend to cost...

If it is possible though, that would be totally great! Certainly would be a good move for some 3rd party company or another, since it wouldn't even require any new engineering on its own, just copying an existing part. (And since there was enough demand for better combiner extremities that multiple 3Ps each made their own of those, I can only imagine that there'll be fairly significant demand for a replacement part that stops the figure from destroying itself immediately :lol: .)

Yeah, it would be kinda difficult. That said, if the pieces were slightly redesigned such that the "cross" and the mounting for it were separate pieces (such that the mounting piece would be plastic and the cross metal) it might work a bit better than having two massive chunks of metal.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:48 am
by MadProject
Qwan wrote:
Burn wrote:I really should get around to busting mine out of his box.
Just make sure you don't bust the toy itself :P

MadProject wrote:
Black Hat wrote:A 3P upgrade kit that replaces the "cross" of the ratchets (the bit susceptible to tearing due to the shoddiness of the materials) with either really dense plastic or ideally metal would be a great idea. Someone get on it.


I don't know how much that is doable. It should be one solid piece, so basically you'd have to change all the base for the hip
MadProject's right, the cross piece is the same part as the entire base of the hip, so not only would it require a large amount of disassembly (if it even can be disassembled by the consumer; I'll have to look at that) but it'd also be two rather large pieces of metal/sturdy plastic. And given how much even the small 3P products tend to cost...

If it is possible though, that would be totally great! Certainly would be a good move for some 3rd party company or another, since it wouldn't even require any new engineering on its own, just copying an existing part. (And since there was enough demand for better combiner extremities that multiple 3Ps each made their own of those, I can only imagine that there'll be fairly significant demand for a replacement part that stops the figure from destroying itself immediately :lol: .)



Look, it wouldn't surprise me if some 3P like Perfect Effect would do totally new legs, instead of just the piece, considering how they usually work.

Also, I find worth mentioning one thing I saw in a videoreview.
If you don't like the tail ending so squarish, you can deply the ramp to give it a tail.
Here's a pic of the result:
trypticon coda.png


And here it is the videoreview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FiDK20VXeQ

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:06 am
by Kurona
MadProject wrote:
Qwan wrote:
Burn wrote:I really should get around to busting mine out of his box.
Just make sure you don't bust the toy itself :P

MadProject wrote:
Black Hat wrote:A 3P upgrade kit that replaces the "cross" of the ratchets (the bit susceptible to tearing due to the shoddiness of the materials) with either really dense plastic or ideally metal would be a great idea. Someone get on it.


I don't know how much that is doable. It should be one solid piece, so basically you'd have to change all the base for the hip
MadProject's right, the cross piece is the same part as the entire base of the hip, so not only would it require a large amount of disassembly (if it even can be disassembled by the consumer; I'll have to look at that) but it'd also be two rather large pieces of metal/sturdy plastic. And given how much even the small 3P products tend to cost...

If it is possible though, that would be totally great! Certainly would be a good move for some 3rd party company or another, since it wouldn't even require any new engineering on its own, just copying an existing part. (And since there was enough demand for better combiner extremities that multiple 3Ps each made their own of those, I can only imagine that there'll be fairly significant demand for a replacement part that stops the figure from destroying itself immediately :lol: .)



Look, it wouldn't surprise me if some 3P like Perfect Effect would do totally new legs, instead of just the piece, considering how they usually work.

Also, I find worth mentioning one thing I saw in a videoreview.
If you don't like the tail ending so squarish, you can deply the ramp to give it a tail.
Here's a pic of the result:
trypticon coda.png


And here it is the videoreview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FiDK20VXeQ

Ooh, I really like that actually. It looks so perfect; surely that's intended!

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:24 am
by Ravage XK
Has anyone contacted Hasbro about this to see if they will supply replacement parts or something? It really should be up to them to fix the problem and not rely on 3P companies to sort it.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:27 am
by Agamemnon
Kurona wrote:
MadProject wrote:
Qwan wrote:
Burn wrote:I really should get around to busting mine out of his box.
Just make sure you don't bust the toy itself :P

MadProject wrote:
Black Hat wrote:A 3P upgrade kit that replaces the "cross" of the ratchets (the bit susceptible to tearing due to the shoddiness of the materials) with either really dense plastic or ideally metal would be a great idea. Someone get on it.


I don't know how much that is doable. It should be one solid piece, so basically you'd have to change all the base for the hip
MadProject's right, the cross piece is the same part as the entire base of the hip, so not only would it require a large amount of disassembly (if it even can be disassembled by the consumer; I'll have to look at that) but it'd also be two rather large pieces of metal/sturdy plastic. And given how much even the small 3P products tend to cost...

If it is possible though, that would be totally great! Certainly would be a good move for some 3rd party company or another, since it wouldn't even require any new engineering on its own, just copying an existing part. (And since there was enough demand for better combiner extremities that multiple 3Ps each made their own of those, I can only imagine that there'll be fairly significant demand for a replacement part that stops the figure from destroying itself immediately :lol: .)



Look, it wouldn't surprise me if some 3P like Perfect Effect would do totally new legs, instead of just the piece, considering how they usually work.

Also, I find worth mentioning one thing I saw in a videoreview.
If you don't like the tail ending so squarish, you can deply the ramp to give it a tail.
Here's a pic of the result:
trypticon coda.png


And here it is the videoreview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FiDK20VXeQ

Ooh, I really like that actually. It looks so perfect; surely that's intended!

I thought girth was more important than length. :-s

Indeed, while not really toy or toon accurate, this little addition looks really good. I wonder how it will look with a more T-Rex appropriate stance versus the traditional Gojira...

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:19 am
by Wolfman Jake
Agamemnon wrote:I thought girth was more important than length. :-s


Some people just want it all. Don't let it get to you, man. It's the motion of the ocean and all that. ;)

Serious time question on Trypticon, though. What mode is he packaged in? Can he be displayed in "Gojira" mode without using the hip ratchets at all? If I see him in store, I might grab him up, but wait to officially Transform him until all this business with the hip joints is sorted out. At the very least, it would be nice to display him next to Metroplex in his default/robot/beast mode while I wait.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:43 pm
by MadProject
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:I thought girth was more important than length. :-s


Some people just want it all. Don't let it get to you, man. It's the motion of the ocean and all that. ;)

Serious time question on Trypticon, though. What mode is he packaged in? Can he be displayed in "Gojira" mode without using the hip ratchets at all? If I see him in store, I might grab him up, but wait to officially Transform him until all this business with the hip joints is sorted out. At the very least, it would be nice to display him next to Metroplex in his default/robot/beast mode while I wait.



it should be in Kaiju mode with tail and head rotated to fit the box and legs detached.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:26 pm
by Qwan
MadProject wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Serious time question on Trypticon, though. What mode is he packaged in? Can he be displayed in "Gojira" mode without using the hip ratchets at all? If I see him in store, I might grab him up, but wait to officially Transform him until all this business with the hip joints is sorted out. At the very least, it would be nice to display him next to Metroplex in his default/robot/beast mode while I wait.
it should be in Kaiju mode with tail and head rotated to fit the box and legs detached.
Indeed. He comes packaged somewhere between dino and Nemesis mode, with the legs detached. When you put him together the legs will be in default "upright dino" position, so you can totally stand him next to Metroplex without moving him for now. ;)^

Agamemnon wrote:
Kurona wrote:
MadProject wrote:Also, I find worth mentioning one thing I saw in a videoreview.
If you don't like the tail ending so squarish, you can deply the ramp to give it a tail.
Here's a pic of the result:
trypticon coda.png


And here it is the videoreview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FiDK20VXeQ
Ooh, I really like that actually. It looks so perfect; surely that's intended!
I thought girth was more important than length. :-s

Indeed, while not really toy or toon accurate, this little addition looks really good. I wonder how it will look with a more T-Rex appropriate stance versus the traditional Gojira...
I've been doing that on my Trypticon for a while now too, actually! Not only does it look better in my eyes as well, but it also stops the paint from scratching off that piece (since it drags on the ground and surprise, all the grey on that piece is thick yet somewhat-fragile paint #-o ).

In fact you can also lift the little guns on it all the way 'up', fold that piece out, make sure it's sitting as flush with the ground as possible, then put the guns back down as far as they'll go. They'll bump up against the main chunky part of the tail at an angle, and somewhat complete the curvature of the tail. It looks really good! :D

Transformers Titans Return Trypticon Sighted at UK Retail

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:05 pm
by Va'al
Australia, the Philippines, and now the UK! The Transformers Titans Return Titan class Trypticon set has appeared in the United Kingdom at regular source of news and retailer Smyths Toys (you can also find him stocked online here) for £149.99 (approx 194 USD). We have no confirmation of where it's being stocked, but it looks like it might just be one case per store according to Sol Fury, who reported the news on TFW2005.

If you come across the big giant purple Decepticon dinosaur, make sure to mark it down in our Sightings database, and let others know where they can find one too!

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Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:58 pm
by RiddlerJ
I was actually hoping that the reason Trypticon was taking so long to be released was that they were addressing the hip problem, but obviously that was me being stupidly optimistic. :(

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:59 pm
by Stuartmaximus
TRU(UK) have it up on their site too ;)
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/mobile/toys/tr ... 2613320001

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:38 am
by Gamerlingual
Does anyone have any positive experiences with his hips? I took the plunge and bought him from robot kingdom :shock: :HEADHURTS:

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:09 am
by Sjeng

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:25 am
by MadProject
Ordered mine right now.
Once it will arrive, I'll check for the springs.
I wanted to search for alternative springs before getting him, but without knowing the size and strenght of the original ones, I feared I could get wrong springs

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:28 am
by Ravage XK
Mine hasn't been released from its box yet. Might have a look at the weekend but I don't want to break it.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:22 am
by Qwan
Gamerlingual wrote:Does anyone have any positive experiences with his hips? I took the plunge and bought him from robot kingdom :shock: :HEADHURTS:

I think rather few people (on these boards, at least) have had any experience with Trypticon, positive or negative, since he hasn't been very readily available up to this point. Looks like there'll be quite a few more people to submit their experiences soon, though, if the last few posts are anything to go by! :D

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:47 am
by Exulted Unicron
Hasbro Trypticons have started showing up right NOW in the UK. Check your local Smyths toys and TRUs

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:22 am
by Gamerlingual
Qwan wrote:
Gamerlingual wrote:Does anyone have any positive experiences with his hips? I took the plunge and bought him from robot kingdom :shock: :HEADHURTS:

I think rather few people (on these boards, at least) have had any experience with Trypticon, positive or negative, since he hasn't been very readily available up to this point. Looks like there'll be quite a few more people to submit their experiences soon, though, if the last few posts are anything to go by! :D

Is there a chance that not all the springs will be bad? :-( #-o

I will become a guinea pig :HEADHURTS: :-s :-s :PRAY:

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:28 am
by TF-fan kev777
Gamerlingual wrote:Is there a chance that not all the springs will be bad? :-( #-o

I will become a guinea pig :HEADHURTS: :-s :-s :PRAY:


Virtually no chance, as the problem is 2 fold, 1) the springs are too strong for the joint, but the bigger problems is 2) they used very soft plastic on the ratchets.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:36 am
by Sjeng
Man, Hasbro REALLY needs to start working on their QC issues. I mean how many bad toys do they need to make to wake up? :(

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:28 am
by Qwan
Sjeng wrote:Man, Hasbro REALLY needs to start working on their QC issues. I mean how many bad toys do they need to make to wake up? :(

Unfortunately I don't think it's so much about the number of bad toys as it is about the ratio of 'fine' to 'bad', and even then it'd be more about how many complaints they get or whatever, rather than how bad or widespread the issue itself is. Think about how many toys there are in the TR line, and how many of those have had devastating QC issues (including Trypticon); then, think about how many Trypticons they'll still sell compared to the surely-small number of complaints they'll actually receive about those toys, even if the problem exists on every copy. It's a fairly logical (or "logical") business move and much as I hate to say it, we're pretty much stuck voting with our wallets or sending complaints to a multinational corporation to try and instigate some kind of change - and even then there's a chance they'd get the wrong message and put Titans to bed or something...

It's hard being individual collectors trying to deal with a large faceless business :(

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:41 am
by Gamerlingual
Qwan wrote:
Sjeng wrote:Man, Hasbro REALLY needs to start working on their QC issues. I mean how many bad toys do they need to make to wake up? :(

Unfortunately I don't think it's so much about the number of bad toys as it is about the ratio of 'fine' to 'bad', and even then it'd be more about how many complaints they get or whatever, rather than how bad or widespread the issue itself is. Think about how many toys there are in the TR line, and how many of those have had devastating QC issues (including Trypticon); then, think about how many Trypticons they'll still sell compared to the surely-small number of complaints they'll actually receive about those toys, even if the problem exists on every copy. It's a fairly logical (or "logical") business move and much as I hate to say it, we're pretty much stuck voting with our wallets or sending complaints to a multinational corporation to try and instigate some kind of change - and even then there's a chance they'd get the wrong message and put Titans to bed or something...

It's hard being individual collectors trying to deal with a large faceless business :(

So most likely I'm screwed. How sad :-( :BANG_HEAD: #-o

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:03 am
by mordhelm
Basically you will need enough people to write in complaints with documentation for them to acknowledge it at all.

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:04 am
by leokearon
Trypticon is available in Ireland for €180

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toy ... n/p/159986

Shame the hip problems mean I won't be buying him

Re: Transformers Generations Titan Class Trypticon Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:23 pm
by Gamerlingual
I'll get Legends if this turns out to be garbage