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Kurona wrote:Personally I think dismissing Darkwing and Dreadwind as Aerialbot repaints prevents you from seeing the positives they do have and realising they do actually look like decent figures, but hey, I guess positivity just isn't fashionable these days.

Don't worry, you're not completely alone. I like 'em too!...could be because I don't have any variations of the Aerialbots. But still, I like them and I'll probably be adding them to my shelf.

Starscream has packed a lot of muscle!

ExciKaiser wrote:Seriously, starting a new line with 4 years old repaints.. they learned nothing from G2 ?

You couldn't tell during Combiner Wars?

Perhaps to get around the limitation of there only being 12 Primes some of the Prime-Masters will have engine blocks on them instead of icons and be actual Powermasters. or they might do something with them like turn a mini-fig into a vaguely Turbine shape (for the top part) and use them as part of Turbomasters.

Also speaking of Turbomasters Thunderclash might fit the leader gimmick too - perhaps as some sort of Optimus remould.

ExciKaiser wrote:

Overcracker wrote:And Starscream seems to me has some other feature in that bulky exterior we have not been told about. There's got to be a reason for that.

He's a combiner wars torso. It's not even a secret. (it could have been if they didn't show these 30th repaint of aerialbot limbs).


And it'll probably transform the exact same way as Silverbolt, I hope you weren't tired of the 28 already existing remolds of this torso.

Not likely. Given the massive arms and legs, and the large quantity of backpack, it looks like, if he is a torso, he'll transform very differently to Silverbolt and his repaints/remoulds.

The Silverbolt transformation is very specific with the legs becoming the combined mode Torso. I don't see any Toros panels on the legs, and lots of backpack kibble beyond the wings to deal with, which Silverbolt kept to a minimum.

Sigma Magnus wrote:...I'm not judging this line yet. I mean, hell, even Starscream is growing on me. Stuff looks a lot better in-hand in more natural and organic poses...and let's face it, conventions and renders can give us some pretty bad poses. But so far, I like what I see. I don't care about Roddy's backpack either, because I don't display my figures facing the wall.

I love the "I don't display my figures facing the wall" line. It is the absolute truth, but people still go nuts over backpacks.

And in some pictures, Starscream doesn't look that bad. Not really that good still, but slightly better.

And I'm with Kurona on Dreadwind and Darkwing. They do look good. I think they're the best reveals so far.

lots of cool stuff. hope we a get a giant figure scorpinok teaser.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Personally I think dismissing Darkwing and Dreadwind as Aerialbot repaints prevents you from seeing the positives they do have and realising they do actually look like decent figures, but hey, I guess positivity just isn't fashionable these days.

Don't worry, you're not completely alone. I like 'em too!...could be because I don't have any variations of the Aerialbots. But still, I like them and I'll probably be adding them to my shelf.

I like them a lot too. It's weird, usually I don't bother with the characters I don't know unless they are excellent molds. But these guys just look really sharp and their colors will look great on my Con shelf. Unfortunately Beachcomber and those two are the only ones that interest me.

Starscream is growing on me, even if he does have hulk hands. I don't mind the bulkiness in robot mode, but in jet mode it'd be hard to hide all the bulk from robot mode.

Also, I'm pretty sure we'll be getting a legends Cliffjumper at some point during this line. I don't know if they'll use the Bumblebee mold again though since we have a red retool of it already with Chase/Roadburn

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Personally I think dismissing Darkwing and Dreadwind as Aerialbot repaints prevents you from seeing the positives they do have and realising they do actually look like decent figures, but hey, I guess positivity just isn't fashionable these days.

Don't worry, you're not completely alone. I like 'em too!...could be because I don't have any variations of the Aerialbots. But still, I like them and I'll probably be adding them to my shelf.

To be honest, Dreadwind and Darkwing Blackwing are the two figures out of all these reveals that I feel the most positive about.

Of course, most of that positivity is based in the prospect of Takara being able to make a new Buster and Hydra out of them, rather than based in the two as they are.

We did promise the usual Seibertron.com treatment for the reveals - not that many, admittedly - at San Diego Comic Con for Hasbro's Transformers toylines - and here we are! With most major panels now out of the way, we're proud to present a gallery for Power of the Primes, the third chapter in the Prime Wars trilogy, in their SDCC displays!

Featuring the likes of Leader class Hot Rod / Rodimus Prime, Voyager Starscream, Deluxe Jazz and Combiners Blackwing and Dreadwind, Legends Beachcomber, and the Liege Maximo Prime Master, in a Skullgrin looking Decoy Suit, you can find a selection of images below, and the full works here!

Mmmm, know what? For all the grievances I have with him, that's a very lovely noggin sculpt on Screamer's shoulders.



And every pic I see of these guys just makes them look cooler and cooler. I'm seriously gonna have to consider picking them up.

Sabrblade wrote:

MrBlack wrote:but what the heck is up with Starscream's arms?!

DestronMirage22 wrote:and I'm glad we're getting a new deluxe Starscream. But what's up with his proportions? He looks a little weird. Maybe it's because of some new gimmick?

His robot mode (especially the shoulders) looks to be a heavily inspired by the robot mode design of his Leader class toy from 2015.

And the leader class mold was heavily inspired by the nulegend class toy from 2013. What's after the voyager? A titan class version?

Holy smoke, that is a Masterpiece-esque backpack on there on Screamer!




And people complained about the Aerialbots' undercarriage:

Kurona wrote:Mmmm, know what? For all the grievances I have with him, that's a very lovely noggin sculpt on Screamer's shoulders.

He is growing on me.

Mind you ... slap a black and purple colour scheme on him and he's going to be downright sex on legs.

Can't wait for that Starscream to be Skyquake. Turbomaster and Predator combiners, let's do this.

Sabrblade wrote: And people complained about the Aerialbots' undercarriage:

That's gotta be mistransformed. His head should at least be able to go somewhere out of sight. Otherwise that's more of a hang-glider than a jet. . .

. . . Although the thought of Starscream being stuck in robot mode and resorting to a hang glider for transportation is pretty funny to me

Boy, that Rodimus Prime got way less appealing with that underside shot. I still like the idea, but he's pretty....Star Convoy-ish.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Sabrblade wrote: And people complained about the Aerialbots' undercarriage:

That's gotta be mistransformed. His head should at least be able to go somewhere out of sight. Otherwise that's more of a hang-glider than a jet. . .

. . . Although the thought of Starscream being stuck in robot mode and resorting to a hang glider for transportation is pretty funny to me

And people bitched about non-Headmasters being Headmasters.

ScottyP wrote:Can't wait for that Starscream to be Skyquake. Turbomaster and Predator combiners, let's do this.

Stalker from Onslaughtttttttttttt

I for one actually love how beefy Starscream is here.

He will fit in my collection with TR Megatron and Soundwave who are both a bit chunky themselves and as a second in command to me Starscream should have an actual realistic reason for being second in command of the Decepticon empire or Soundwave or Shockwave since if he is a pathetic character it would either mean Megatron is an idiot or there were other second in commands before Starscream that all died.

Also that Jazz is absolutely top.

Dagon wrote:Boy, that Rodimus Prime got way less appealing with that underside shot. I still like the idea, but he's pretty....Star Convoy-ish.

Indeed, this looks almost like "Pretender" Roddy, with the truck just being an outer shell. It's almost as badly simple as the G1 toy, just with the base hanging off of the back instead...



But, who am I kidding. I'll likely get all of these too....

Agamemnon wrote:

Dagon wrote:Boy, that Rodimus Prime got way less appealing with that underside shot. I still like the idea, but he's pretty....Star Convoy-ish.

Indeed, this looks almost like "Pretender" Roddy, with the truck just being an outer shell. It's almost as badly simple as the G1 toy, just with the base hanging off of the back instead...



But, who am I kidding. I'll likely get all of these too....

Looks like he ran over himself... and got beheaded in the process.

Agamemnon wrote:

Dagon wrote:Boy, that Rodimus Prime got way less appealing with that underside shot. I still like the idea, but he's pretty....Star Convoy-ish.

Indeed, this looks almost like "Pretender" Roddy, with the truck just being an outer shell. It's almost as badly simple as the G1 toy, just with the base hanging off of the back instead...



But, who am I kidding. I'll likely get all of these too....

Woah, you're right. Like the Mega Pretenders.

Wait, wait, everybody stop.


Is that...



L...l...light piping?!

Also, his car mode is absolutely gorgeous. I'd love to have a sideswipe out of him.