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It's been a chaotic couple of days. I preordered the deluxes from BBTS to start. Wasn't crazy about the prices of the other figures, and the legends I wanted were sold out. When they were available on Amazon, I jumped on the legends and Grimlock. Then when the deluxes were available on HTS, I jumped on those and canceled by BBTS PO. Hopefully they'll get Grimlock and the legends back in stock and I'll be a happy camper.

You know, I'm all too aware I'm biased from having watched Beast Wars as a kid but I'll be seriously dissapointed if there isn't a Beast Wars Megatron in PotP, even if I'm all to aware the odds are more or less 0% because Warden hate Beast Wars and only allowed in Optimus Primal presumably because Hasbro said he'd be in from the fan vote.

And yet, assuming there is no later-waves PotP Deathsaurus to remold him from in his dragon mode (a suitable match for him, since Optimus Primal has his 'Optimal' form in this toyline) would it be so hard to remold him from Grimlock? All he'd need is a new robot mode head and maybe, if Hasbro feel generous, new hips details to mimic the turbines on his Transmetal form. Again, I know it won't happen but my inner child really wants it badly.

Plus, it just seem so...wrong...to have Primal in a line without any Beast-era Predacon to oppose him. Not to mention that Megatron hasn't had a new toy since the Cybertron era. Sure, there are talk of a masterpiece but I'm talking mass retail. Again, I know, it won't happen I'm just saying if they wanted to they could totally do it because they got a brand new T-Rex mold and barring Goryu I just don't see a use for the mold unless they just keep the internal engineering and completely reshell it.

Sadly, us Beast Wars fans have to settle for table scraps.

King Kuuga wrote:Sadly, us Beast Wars fans have to settle for table scraps.

I honestly don't get what you're complaining about. I mean realistically, the entire BW line was damn near perfect to the point they're nearly impossible to improve on.

I want a T-Rex Megatron that evolves into a giant dragon, damn it.

I also want a Magnaboss that can move his head, and whose components are a little better balanced. Still, I'll never forget unwrapping that big guy in Christmas of '97....
(And yes I know the TFCC made stickers to convert Silverbolt, Prowl, and Ironhide into a Magnaboss set with some of their exclusives but it's not the same thing)

I just want that leader prime...... when that appears somewhere that will be amazing

Via the Snakas blog, and reportedly from a private Philippines-based collector group on Facebook, we have images of the evolution gimmick of the new Leader class figures from the Transformers Power of the Primes toyline, Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime - with their deluxe size inner robots, Orion Pax and Hot Rod!

We have seen the official stock photography and the images from the shows where the toys were first seen and revealed - in fact, you can check out our gallery here for Hascon 2017 and here for New York Comic Con 2017 - but this is a good look at the empty compartment that will house the inner figures, taken mid-way setup by employees preparing an exhibition. We also see how the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, though we don't know how they will be packaged. Check them out below!

I want optimus so bad!

Hot Rod looks fine (if not a little simplistic), but there's something about Orion Pax that makes him feel like he's too round to go with the armor.

I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

Burn wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:Sadly, us Beast Wars fans have to settle for table scraps.

I honestly don't get what you're complaining about. I mean realistically, the entire BW line was damn near perfect to the point they're nearly impossible to improve on.

Yeah well, even as a lifelong Beast Wars fan I'd have to diagree on some level. Certainly those who became show characters had good toys but the line was very hit and miss and its engineering is, in some respect, quite lacking compared to modern toys. Especially when it come to weight and stability, many of them being very backheavy.

Oh and don't forget: not all of these toys have survived our childhoods. In some respect, there are G1 figures which survived way better than those from the Beast Era, what with these ball joints which have eroded and came loose. Oh and let's not forget GPS, which claimed many iconic figures from that era, such as Megatron's transmetal form, Optimal Optimus and Dinobot II. Sure, all toys decay, but judging from my fairly large and well-preserved collection, even a careful childhood will result in toys that have disintegrated when removed from boxes.

In my case, a new Megatron is paramount since all my previous figures of the guy have broken. Had Transmetal megatron not been so fragile you are correct that its good enough 20 years later as a representation of the guy. Its engineering is good and its poseability decent and its very show-accurate. Unfortunately, the crappy brittle plastic prevents it from being so 'near flawless', as does flaking and turning to dust does to other figures, often breaking in ways that simply cannot be repaired.

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail. Check them out below!

What's unclear? Rodimus Prime's arms attach to Hot Rod's knees, with his shins pointing upwards to form Rodimus's shoulders. When Hot Rod is Hot Rod and not the torso of Rodimus Prime, the arms have nothing to attach to except in trailer configuration. We saw this at NYCC as well. Or Hascon. One of them.

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail.

The Rodimus Prime arms connect to the lower leg of Hot Rod for Prime Mode (pictured below) and are store on the part of the trailer above Hot Rod in vehicle mode. So it's not a a shipping/packaging detail it's parts-forming.

Personally I don't mind it, the figure is still the best looking Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime to date IMO.

i can't wait. been wanting a Rodimus for YEARS!

That Orion Pax is dare I say it... mighty fine looking.

So want that PTOP Prime.

I'm slightly disappointed on Hot Rod-imus Prime... who am I kidding, its Hot Rod, I'm gonna buy it anyway.

King Kuuga wrote:

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail. Check them out below!

What's unclear? Rodimus Prime's arms attach to Hot Rod's knees, with his shins pointing upwards to form Rodimus's shoulders. When Hot Rod is Hot Rod and not the torso of Rodimus Prime, the arms have nothing to attach to except in trailer configuration. We saw this at NYCC as well. Or Hascon. One of them.

NOBLExGAMER wrote:

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail.

The Rodimus Prime arms connect to the lower leg of Hot Rod for Prime Mode (pictured below) and are store on the part of the trailer above Hot Rod in vehicle mode. So it's not a a shipping/packaging detail it's parts-forming.

Personally I don't mind it, the figure is still the best looking Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime to date IMO.

We do, you're both right. I wasn't paying attention to my fingers pre-breakfast this morning. Fixed!

Overcracker wrote:That Orion Pax is dare I say it... mighty fine looking.

In both modes?

Optimus looks fine in large robot mode but damn Orion Pax has always looked so dorky and lame. Hot Rod looks ok I suppose (his usual arm exhaust/guns look crappy though, like some cheap cosplay of a child who's just spraypainted some cardboard tubes silver and stuck them to his arms)

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Orion Pax is dare I say it... mighty fine looking.

In both modes?

Yup.

ThunderThruster wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

its just a digibash but it does look like a possibilty

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

this would be a great counterpart to that armada megatron we got in CW

And armada starscream and generations hot shot

Ultra Markus wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

its just a digibash but it does look like a possibilty

I'm aware, but it looks like a decent modern interpretation.

While it seems we know so much about the upcoming Transformers Power of the Primes toys, there is one part we know very little of: how their backs look like. While Leader Optimus Prime may look like MP10 from the front, no one knows how he looks like from the back? Well, a Transformers hands on event was held in Hong Kong and thanks to several posts on HK-TF 變形金剛香港網盟 and Hobbymizer Hong Kong Discuss, we now know that it looks like and ... it's not like MP10. We also have some great shots of Voyager Grimlock's back which has also not fully been revealed yet, along with more torso shots of Voyager Starscream. We also get our first shot of Starscream fully combined. There are also several images showing where the combiner heads are hidden which can make for some very wacky poses. Plus, we see the interchangeable Titan/Prime Master gimmick with the Matrix that comes with the leaders in full force and used in fun ways.

These items are all due to come to retail in December 2017/January 2018, depending on your distribution channel of choice and the price points we have seen so far are not consistent from one retailer to the next.