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Transformers Authentics Toyline Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:22 am
by Albatross250
Power of the Primes Art via Planet Iacon (and also TFCN)
https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.st ... 3247644277
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Hold on, Bumblebee is included in this? #-o

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:50 am
by Sjeng
Albatross250 wrote:Power of the Primes Art via Planet Iacon (and also TFCN)
https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.st ... 3247644277
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I hope Grimlock's toy is getting some more colour than that in the picture...
And his mouth better open!!
Probably an early 3D render.

Packaging Art for Transformers: Power of the Primes Grimlock, Starscream, Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:54 am
by Va'al
Fellow Seibertronian Albatross250 has spotted some new packaging art from the upcoming Power of the Primes toyline, to be probably further revealed soon at Hascon, featuring the likes of Bumblebee, Grimlock and Starscream Art. The source of the story is Facebook page TFCN, and you can check out the images below!

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:01 am
by RodimusConvoy13
I don't remember seeing a Power of the Primes Bumblebee. He wasn't in the leaks.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:03 am
by Decepticon Stryker
Is Bumblebee going to be a TR reissue? That would explain him not showing up in the leaks.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:06 am
by Decepticon Stryker
Actually, are we sure this is for POTP? It could be for the upcoming show that replaces RiD15.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:08 am
by ScottyP
That's for a Grimlock model kit of some kind. Not sure on Bee. I'd bet money the Starscream card is for the 88th annual rerelease of the Market Six Legends toy.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:14 am
by Albatross250
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Is Bumblebee going to be a TR reissue? That would explain him not showing up in the leaks.

MAN HE BETTER BE, CUZ THE INSECTICONS TOO :lol: :lol: :CON:

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:18 am
by Albatross250
Sjeng wrote:]
I hope Grimlock's toy is getting some more colour than that in the picture...
And his mouth better open!!
Probably an early 3D render.

Pretty much, that Grimlock is an Early 3D render.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:27 am
by mordhelm
Based on the art style and the packaging this looks more like it could be Cyberverse (as the spiritual successor to RiD). Generations have typically had darker packaging whereas RiD is lighter/whiter.

Also some other points:
1. Stylistically Grimlock does not appear to match the image I remember from the leak.
2. Take a look at the official image from hasbro for Starscream. The background shows his artistic rendition. This is not even close to the image shown now.
3. As others mentioned, bumblebee has not even been hinted at in PotP.

So for me, this is Cyberverse or something else entirely.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:39 am
by Albatross250
mordhelm wrote:Based on the art style and the packaging this looks more like it could be Cyberverse (as the spiritual successor to RiD). Generations have typically had darker packaging whereas RiD is lighter/whiter.

Also some other points:
1. Stylistically Grimlock does not appear to match the image I remember from the leak.
2. Take a look at the official image from hasbro for Starscream. The background shows his artistic rendition. This is not even close to the image shown now.
3. As others mentioned, bumblebee has not even been hinted at in PotP.

So for me, this is Cyberverse or something else entirely.

If its Cyberverse, then why i see some details on the background of the artwork? :-?
Edit: Images are kinda blurry so it's very hard to see it :(

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:44 am
by mordhelm
Albatross250 wrote:
mordhelm wrote:Based on the art style and the packaging this looks more like it could be Cyberverse (as the spiritual successor to RiD). Generations have typically had darker packaging whereas RiD is lighter/whiter.

Also some other points:
1. Stylistically Grimlock does not appear to match the image I remember from the leak.
2. Take a look at the official image from hasbro for Starscream. The background shows his artistic rendition. This is not even close to the image shown now.
3. As others mentioned, bumblebee has not even been hinted at in PotP.

So for me, this is Cyberverse or something else entirely.

If its Cyberverse, then why i see some details on the background of the artwork? :-?
Edit: Images are kinda blurry so it's very hard to see it :(


Here is what I am looking at with Starscream:

This from PotP:
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Vs this from the image you found:
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Pay close attention to the Starscream art in the background of the official Hasbro released image. It makes no sense that they would change Starscream that dramatically after an official released image. Chances are the faded background of the official image is what we will see.

Still, this is something newsworthy, I just don't think that this is PotP. Either way, kudos for finding it.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:47 am
by Albatross250
We'll see it soon if thats Cyberverse. although we wait for a few days till Hascon :-P

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:02 am
by ArmadaPrime
Just to add to the probably-not-potp mill: screamers a voyager, and that certainly isn't voyager packaging. Deluxe at best but based on the size/shape I'd even suggest legends class.

EDIT: then again, this does have the same blueprint detailing in the background as the previous prime wars lines. Check slightly to the right of starscream hip- based on the shape of that figures arms, I think we may have just had our first look at potp primal ;)

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:19 am
by Mr.MicroMaster
I know its been said already but I'm pretty sure this is cyberforce stuff or dollar store stuff or it could be some kind of preliminary art or packaging.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:43 am
by TF-fan kev777
ArmadaPrime wrote:this does have the same blueprint detailing in the background as the previous prime wars lines.


Actually, only 2 out of 3. Grimlock doesn't have the same background as Starscream or Bumblebee, so these may not all be from the same line anyway. Grimlock is the only one I would consider close to a finished product art-wise since it has the panels for the text.

I also noticed on Bee, he has shoulder headlights, which doesn't really match the Thrilling 30 or TR figures. God, I hope this doesn't mean yet another new Bumblebee Legends figure. Of course, there are numerous examples of packaging art not matching the toys, so it may also mean nothing.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:59 am
by Kurona
I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:40 am
by Va'al
Story has been updated to reflect the speculative nature of these being part of POTP. Thanks all!

As mordhelm says: Still, this is something newsworthy, I just don't think that this is PotP. Either way, kudos for finding it.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:46 am
by Albatross250
Va'al wrote:Story has been updated to reflect the speculative nature of these being part of POTP. Thanks all!

As mordhelm says: Still, this is something newsworthy, I just don't think that this is PotP. Either way, kudos for finding it.

Thanks Va'al :D

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:32 am
by william-james88
Kurona wrote:I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.

They arent fake, they simply arent based on generations but on the new upcoming Cyberverse show coming out next year. its what will replace RID. Makes sense, we are looking at deluxe cards and they have the exact same style as what we have seen so far. Look at Bumblebee and Starscream (the tiny toy) below and you will see.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:37 am
by Kurona
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.

They arent fake, they simply arent based on generations but on the new upcoming Cyberverse show coming out next year. its what will replace RID. Makes sense, we are looking at deluxe cards and they have the exact same style as what we have seen so far. Look at Bumblebee and Starscream (the tiny toy) below and you will see.

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They don't look like Cyberverse to me either though. Bumblebee while following a similar approach to his design considering the front of the car being on his shoulders doesn't match up to the design we see in the Busy Book -- and talking of designs matching up, it's odd that they'd use that 3D art when they've already established 2D art in that busy book. Starscream has discrepancies too, and then there's the fact that there's Generations-esque packaging in the back -- ie the sort of cross-section of early wave Transformers we saw on the box insides of Combiner Wars and Titans Return figures. Nothing about this to me implies Cyberverse and it just looks more like an elaborate hoax than anything.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:53 am
by william-james88
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.

They arent fake, they simply arent based on generations but on the new upcoming Cyberverse show coming out next year. its what will replace RID. Makes sense, we are looking at deluxe cards and they have the exact same style as what we have seen so far. Look at Bumblebee and Starscream (the tiny toy) below and you will see.

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They don't look like Cyberverse to me either though. Bumblebee while following a similar approach to his design considering the front of the car being on his shoulders doesn't match up to the design we see in the Busy Book

I dont see that, it matches up perfectly, including the new details on the horned helmet and the black shapes on his arms:

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As for the same style rendered in 2D vs 3D, there is nothing new about that either:

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Different renditions for different purposes but keeping the same design.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:57 am
by Kurona
I'm seeing it now, though I still don't think that de-confirms it as fake. The big thing for me is the generations-esque packaging in the back.

That's a comic made by a different company to Hasbro that's making original art and not using pre-made stock images like toy packaging and activity books would. I'm willing to accept the series would use both 2D art and 3D art, but not because of that example -- it's a very different scenario and comparing apples to oranges.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:49 am
by william-james88
Kurona wrote:I'm seeing it now, though I still don't think that de-confirms it as fake. The big thing for me is the generations-esque packaging in the back.

That's a comic made by a different company to Hasbro that's making original art and not using pre-made stock images like toy packaging and activity books would. I'm willing to accept the series would use both 2D art and 3D art, but not because of that example -- it's a very different scenario and comparing apples to oranges.

This is probably not the case here with hasbro having both 2d and 3d renderings of the same style for different purposes, but just so you know, these activity books do have their own art sometimes. I buy these busy books for my daughter and the artwork is their own and even leads to different styles clashing. Like this shot below of Merida in 2d:

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There is a very peculiar image of Pocahauntus done is a very different fashion too to go with the rest of the book but I cant find it online anywhere.


I do totally get your point of the generations style packaging but I feel its to simply better sell these toys to the 30% collector base which a majority ignored RID. In any case, AOE also had that type of packaging so its not limited to toys in the Classics line.

Also, I am rpetty certain the starscream and BB boxes are not in the same line as the grimlock box which is for a model kit. Not related to what you said, just wanted to throw it out there.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:49 am
by Mr.MicroMaster
It could also be that their model kits since Grimlock is a model kit. :-?