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Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:59 am**

Deadput wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Clones two pack... could they be releasing Pounce and Fastlane in their own two pack?

Could always be a different set of clones, just the question of what other characters were considered clones in the franchise besides the two original clone teams from G1.

I feel like there have been other clones but I can't quite remember at the moment.

Cyberverse Clones maybe

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:03 am**

Thrust being separate from the other two is interesting... Though, part of me can't shake the feeling that the two pack might be the rest of the Welcoming Committee rather than the Coneheads

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:05 am**

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Thrust being separate from the other two is interesting... Though, part of me can't shake the feeling that the two pack might be the rest of the Welcoming Committee rather than the Coneheads

I predicted a while back that Thrust would be a Target red card exclusive like Redwing was last year, and the other 2 would come through other means. Could be this coming true

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:33 am**

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Clones two pack... could they be releasing Pounce and Fastlane in their own two pack?

Could always be a different set of clones, just the question of what other characters were considered clones in the franchise besides the two original clone teams from G1.

I feel like there have been other clones but I can't quite remember at the moment.

Cyberverse Clones maybe

Generations Cyberverse clones?

Please Please Please Please PLEASE be Pounce and Fastlane. Daddy needs a Pounce and isn't paying stupid eBay prices to get one!

Also: Bring on the Coneheads, the one weird gap left in my original Decepticon line-up! ;)^

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:03 am**

Another tfw user posted the actual price tags from TRU

We’re getting The following in Selects
Voyager g2 Megatron (yes another one)
Deluxe Rotorstorm
Deluxe Hot House
Deluxe Mercenary Bug Bite
Deluxe Roritchi

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:16 am**

Jtprime17 wrote:Another tfw user posted the actual price tags from TRU

We’re getting The following in Selects
Voyager g2 Megatron (yes another one)
Deluxe Rotorstorm
Deluxe Hot House
Deluxe Mercenary Bug Bite
Deluxe Roritchi

That last one is actually a character?

Talk about bottom barrel.

Normally I believe leaks automatically since Hasbro/Tak have a leaky darn barrel but this one sounds fishy but yet it makes sense anyways.

Hot House is on the par for Micromaster base stuff, Rotorstorm sounds like a Spinister retool (which I think is related to my theory that Spin was meant to be Earthrise like Astrotrain and was simply brought forward to fill the extra wave of Siege), Bug Bite is obviously a Cliff retool and Rori would be obvious.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:18 am**

Deadput wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Clones two pack... could they be releasing Pounce and Fastlane in their own two pack?

Could always be a different set of clones, just the question of what other characters were considered clones in the franchise besides the two original clone teams from G1.

I feel like there have been other clones but I can't quite remember at the moment.

An older G1 PVC line put out generic Seeker Clones dubbed "Air Warriors". Dreamwave wuld go on and argue these Clones were an army manufactured by the Quintessons. Ibsoubt thats the direction they are going, but anythingbis possible.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:22 am**

Flashwave wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Clones two pack... could they be releasing Pounce and Fastlane in their own two pack?

Could always be a different set of clones, just the question of what other characters were considered clones in the franchise besides the two original clone teams from G1.

I feel like there have been other clones but I can't quite remember at the moment.

An older G1 PVC line put out generic Seeker Clones dubbed "Air Warriors". Dreamwave wuld go on and argue these Clones were an army manufactured by the Quintessons. Ibsoubt thats the direction they are going, but anythingbis possible.

Also read a theory about Insecticon clones which could make some sense since one of them was part of the fan poll for Earthrise, even though Runabout won as we know from Siege it doesn't exclude Hasbro from making the non winners.

I doubt it's that though.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:33 am**

Whoever wrote the news article messed up badly on the photo. That's a render set of CW Sky Lynx, not ER Sky Lynx's box!

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:09 pm**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Whoever wrote the news article messed up badly on the photo. That's a render set of CW Sky Lynx, not ER Sky Lynx's box!

Thanks, most kind of you.

Jtprime17 wrote:Another tfw user posted the actual price tags from TRU

We’re getting The following in Selects
Voyager g2 Megatron (yes another one)
Deluxe Rotorstorm
Deluxe Hot House
Deluxe Mercenary Bug Bite
Deluxe Roritchi

Do you have a link?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Thrust being separate from the other two is interesting... Though, part of me can't shake the feeling that the two pack might be the rest of the Welcoming Committee rather than the Coneheads

I predicted a while back that Thrust would be a Target red card exclusive like Redwing was last year, and the other 2 would come through other means. Could be this coming true

Any individual listing usually indicates towards an exclusive so yeah this would mean they are seperating the coneheads. Then again, maybe the seeker two pack is thundercracker and skywarp. I would be really shocked if they didn't release those two in this mold.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:21 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Whoever wrote the news article messed up badly on the photo. That's a render set of CW Sky Lynx, not ER Sky Lynx's box!

Thanks, most kind of you.

Jtprime17 wrote:Another tfw user posted the actual price tags from TRU

We’re getting The following in Selects
Voyager g2 Megatron (yes another one)
Deluxe Rotorstorm
Deluxe Hot House
Deluxe Mercenary Bug Bite
Deluxe Roritchi

Do you have a link?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Thrust being separate from the other two is interesting... Though, part of me can't shake the feeling that the two pack might be the rest of the Welcoming Committee rather than the Coneheads

I predicted a while back that Thrust would be a Target red card exclusive like Redwing was last year, and the other 2 would come through other means. Could be this coming true

Any individual listing usually indicates towards an exclusive so yeah this would mean they are seperating the coneheads. Then again, maybe the seeker two pack is thundercracker and skywarp. I would be really shocked if they didn't release those two in this mold.

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... 141/page-3

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:36 pm**

So Cyberverse are getting seekers of their own as well :-?

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:41 pm**

ZeroWolf wrote:So Cyberverse are getting seekers of their own as well

Well they always had them, but yeah they will get their own multi packs.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:34 pm**

We're getting tons of new figures. Maybe even TOO MANY.

But it's so depressing for me because the ones I want the most are a complete set of DELUXE INSECTICONS. Hasbro, Takara, 3rd party, why won't anybody make those guys??? Why does it always have to be Kickback, Bombshell & Shrapnel? :-(

I wish all the fans that have direct contact with Hasbro & Takara would push for them. Ransack is one of my favorite characters. Doesn't anybody else care about them?

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:03 pm**

These all seem to line up with rumors from a few weeks ago. When I first heard we were getting a G2 Megatron, I was excited that it could be a new mold. That's why the Megatron reveal we got this weekend was so disappointing to me. Knowing that G2 Megs is just going to be a redeco of that really twists the knife further.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:06 pm**

Lore Keeper wrote:These all seem to line up with rumors from a few weeks ago. When I first heard we were getting a G2 Megatron, I was excited that it could be a new mold. That's why the Megatron reveal we got this weekend was so disappointing to me. Knowing that G2 Megs is just going to be a redeco of that really twists the knife further.

I'm disappointed by the fact that we might actually get a G2 deco of this mold, I don't really want it but I want to finish the G2 paint schemes in Voyager scale

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:11 pm**

Aimless Misfire wrote:We're getting tons of new figures. Maybe even TOO MANY.

But it's so depressing for me because the ones I want the most are a complete set of DELUXE INSECTICONS. Hasbro, Takara, 3rd party, why won't anybody make those guys??? Why does it always have to be Kickback, Bombshell & Shrapnel?

I wish all the fans that have direct contact with Hasbro & Takara would push for them. Ransack is one of my favorite characters. Doesn't anybody else care about them?

I can think of one fan of significance who does.

The problem is that they were complete nobodies up until the Dreamwave comics came out, and even then they were minor compared to other characters. They're almost as minor as the Omnibots and Powerdashers.

That being said, they have received some love. Chop Shop got to be an accessory for a Legends-class Megatron. And he got to be a Thrilling 30 Shrapnel retool during Combiner Wars, and since they had very similar transformations to begin with and the T30 Shrapnel mold was more buglike than Shrap's Diaclone-derived G1 mold it's a pretty decent match.
Venin, the tiny!Waspinator redeco packaged with Legends-class Acid Storm, was originally supposed to be a Venom homage back when the Seeker used was slated to be Thundercracker. But when the Seeker got changed to Acid Storm...

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:41 pm**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
That being said, they have received some love. Chop Shop got to be an accessory for a Legends-class Megatron. And he got to be a Thrilling 30 Shrapnel retool during Combiner Wars,

Yeah, Chop Shop got some love, "THEY" didn't. Hell I'd be happy with the Fansproject set but the bastards never made Venom.

It's been 5 or 6 years since Hasbro made Chop Shop & I've been hoping at every big toy reveal since. Look at the massive amount of figures we got since then. We got some really STUPID repaints in that time. The movie line has a bunch of weird repaints straight out of left field. Then there's the pirate sets & that weird heavy metal rock band set that nobody asked for. Plus all the weird crap 3rd party makes. And the subscription service had some really strange choices. And out of all that, nobody could be bothered to make 1 complete set of Insecticons?

The amount of reveals this weekend is crazy. What's it going to take to get them to update every G1 character at least once?

Just look at the amount of Bumblebee's they pump out. Bumblebee was a complete nobody until they decided to force him on us beginning in 2007. Between G1 & the 2007 movie we never heard about Bumblebee. Bumblebee wasn't in anything from Beast Wars through Cybertron. Out of the 5000 Bumblebee's we got in the past 13 years, we could easily trade in 4 of them for 1 each of the Insecticons. :BANG_HEAD:

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:10 pm**

Aimless Misfire wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
That being said, they have received some love. Chop Shop got to be an accessory for a Legends-class Megatron. And he got to be a Thrilling 30 Shrapnel retool during Combiner Wars,

Yeah, Chop Shop got some love, "THEY" didn't. Hell I'd be happy with the Fansproject set but the bastards never made Venom.

It's been 5 or 6 years since Hasbro made Chop Shop & I've been hoping at every big toy reveal since. Look at the massive amount of figures we got since then. We got some really STUPID repaints in that time. The movie line has a bunch of weird repaints straight out of left field.

1. Redecoes are a way to A. maximize a mold's profitability, B. retain trademarks, and C. flesh out the stock on shelves.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Then there's the pirate sets & that weird heavy metal rock band set that nobody asked for.

Are you talking about the Botcon sets?

Aimless Misfire wrote:Plus all the weird crap 3rd party makes. And the subscription service had some really strange choices. And out of all that, nobody could be bothered to make 1 complete set of Insecticons?

Because not very many people care about the Deluxe Insecticons compared to the others. They've had only slightly more of a presence in fiction than the Powerdashers, and lack the allure of certain other minor characters.

Aimless Misfire wrote:The amount of reveals this weekend is crazy. What's it going to take to get them to update every G1 character at least once?

A belief that they'll get ROI.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Just look at the amount of Bumblebee's they pump out. Bumblebee was a complete nobody until they decided to force him on us beginning in 2007.

Wrong! Wrong wrong wrongity wrong wrong wrong! Bumblebee was a major character in the original cartoon, appearing in several episodes for several scenes and receiving several lines of dialogue. He was also a major character to a lesser extent in the Marvel comics. The Deluxe Insecticons on the other hand got like ONE small appearance in the Marvel comics, and then more substantial but nevertheless minor roles in Dreamwave and IDW.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Between G1 & the 2007 movie we never heard about Bumblebee. Bumblebee wasn't in anything from Beast Wars through Cybertron.

1. Lack of appearances in continuities between G1 and 2007 =/= being a nobody before 2007, because of his presence in G1.
2. It wasn't for lack of trying. Armada Hot Shot was originally supposed to be Bumblebee (and he looks it), but Hasbro had let the trademark on the name lapse. Which would be a big part of why they insist on injecting a Bumblebee into each new continuity - they don't want it to happen again.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Out of the 5000 Bumblebee's we got in the past 13 years, we could easily trade in 4 of them for 1 each of the Insecticons.

You say that, but A. most of those are movie Bumblebees backed by his being a major character in the films and B. The nostalgia for G1 Bumblebee is far greater than that for the Deluxe Insecticons (although not as great as the marketing department has sometimes imagined it to be).

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:35 pm**

The pirate set was botcon while the heavy metal Knights of Unicron (which was an awesome idea, and I'd love a one shot comic in the vein of This is Spinal Tap to go with that release) was an SDCC exclusive.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:43 pm**

Given the sheer number of reveals and listings dumped in our laps lately, I'm now hoping for a massive reveals drought for a while. Just so that people will have spare attention for other things.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:48 pm**

I'd have asked for a hair metal transformers band if I knew it was a thing I could have asked for

I'm expecting a wwe cross over at some point seeing as tmnt and motu has done it. Undertaker into Hurst, macho man into natcho van, big boss man to swat vehicle and the mountie into a horse, jake the snake into a rabbit...

After the powerdashers anything is possible, and between cyber verse and wfc we should see more uncommon characters.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:58 pm**

Bugbite? Awesome, I hope he's got his purple tattoos and some suitable weaponry.

I'm curious how Selects Hot House is going to work out, won't that mean he'll just be a repaint of one of the other Modulator? Is that why there are tank treads on the bottom of Airwave's airport mode?

Roritchi is historically just Fasttrack in a different color, I believe, so he'll probably be the first Weaponizer mold reuse I skip.

Given that the branding of Clone was used to justify G2 Sideswipe in the same line as G1 Sideswipe, and that someone mentioned that the Clone set is the same price as Greenlight and Dazzlestrike were, I feel like it'll just be a Deluxe repaint and a Battlemaster repaint with a new blast effect, like that set. As for characters I could see branded as a Clone using Earthrise molds...
-Any Runamuck reuse (let's be honest, Runabout being Runamuck but black could make him kinda hard to market to a casual audience, or if not, it could be one of those Devastation generic goons)
-Slicer (say he's an Evil Wheeljack Clone, especially since we're also getting Exhaust who would at least have a new head to differentiate him)
-Any more Cliffjumper reuses (Tap-out's pretty obscure, Wrecker Clone Cliffjumper? That would be this mold's 4th use after Hubcap and Bugbite though)
-A Smokescreen reuse/repaint based on G2 or Prime Smokescreen (I think Classics Datsun in G2 Smokescreen colors was a scrapped concept before, of if it's Prime Smokescreen, him being G1 Smokescreen's body with the Prime colors would line up a lot with the original Sideswipe situation)
-Some sort of Alicon repaint?
-Detritus? (Greenlight was a mold from the previous line brought forward, they could do the same with a Siege mold for Earthrise maybe? That might specifically be relegated to Selects and Netflix lines though)
-Wrecker Hook/Tow-line/Lift-Ticket from Hoist?
-Some other notable G2 repaint (the only ones I really know about are Megs,Sideswipe, and the combiners)
I don't necessarily think a lot of these are likely, I'm just throwing out ideas.

Also, why does the article text mention a Deluxe Sandstorm? I don't see that in these listings.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:03 pm**

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZPL8SW1/

Wrong picture obviously.

Tra WFC Alternate Universe Optimus Prime

EAN: 5010993719952
Product Number: E7462

The Nerf darts pictured EAN is Actually 501099334261.

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:49 pm**

Ok so it turns out TRU has SKUs for all Hasbro toys, whether they sell them or not. For instance, ectotron was on their systems and they never sold it.
So, odds are the clone 2 pack is the one we already got at Walgreens/EB Games.

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