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Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:58 pm**

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:So that means deluxe wave 15 (which includes SS86-11 Perceptor) But also has SS BB Ratchet, BB Brawn, and BB Wheeljack will likely be 80-82, we just don't know exactly in which order yet.

Which is interesting because it means that they are not numbering the core class, or they are numbering them out of order.

Based on the pictures we have of the boxes, core class is not numbered.

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:10 pm**

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:So that means deluxe wave 15 (which includes SS86-11 Perceptor) But also has SS BB Ratchet, BB Brawn, and BB Wheeljack will likely be 80-82, we just don't know exactly in which order yet.

Which is interesting because it means that they are not numbering the core class, or they are numbering them out of order.

Just to keep myself in check:

#70 B-127
#71 Autobot Dino

#72 Starscream

#73 Grindor # Ravage

#74 Bumblebee (RotF)
#75 Jolt

#76 Thrust

#77 N.E.S.T. Bumblebee

#78 Sideswipe (RotF)

#79BB High Octane Bumblebee

#80-#82 ???

#83 Soundwave

It's a bit hasty to think Soundwave will be listed at the end of his group, for all we know he's at the beginning with the Core Class in front of him.

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:23 pm**

Yeah the core class packaging have no numbers which I find very odd.

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:25 pm**

o.supreme wrote:Yeah the core class packaging have no numbers which I find very odd.

Not in the front, but what about the side and back?

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:31 pm**

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Yeah the core class packaging have no numbers which I find very odd.

Not in the front, but what about the side and back?

Every other SS has had the number prominently featured on the front. While WFC #s are kind of an afterthought. I always viewed SS kind of like Alternators, where the number is part of the fun/ sickness we collectors have in wanting to have them all

.

True Legends/ Core Class is new to SS, but I'm sure the developers know the significance of the numbering system. Alternatively perhaps the packaging we are seeing isn't final?

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:05 pm**

o.supreme wrote:I'm sure the developers know the significance of the numbering system.

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:02 pm**

Did anybody else notice that Soundwave still had the clear bands on in robot mode? Usually, those are used to secure the figure to the box or for holding a protective plastic covering over certain parts. Rarely, they're used to hold parts together, interesting.

Posted: **Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:58 pm**

Soundwave is looking good!

Posted: **Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:49 am**

Soundwave's robot mode is pretty decent, that alt though, I think mine will transform once and then never again.

That really is what WFC Siege Soundwave should have been right there

Posted: **Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:07 am**

Chefatron put up a review of SS Soundwave and Ravage
https://youtu.be/QYf9Fa5PTj8

Posted: **Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:27 pm**

Thanks to posts on Instagram and the Cybertron 21 Facebook page, we have in hand images of 3 upcoming Studio Series figures. These are core class Shockwave and Ravage along with voyager Soundwave. We get a good idea of Soundave's size as well as how his alt mode looks like. We see that Hasbro has been very coy with those alt mode images, diligently hiding the fact that Soundwave's head just stays there in the back. Same with Shockwave who also has visible head syndrome. We do see the accessory that comes with Ravage to give Soundwave a more G1 styled gun tip. And sure, Ravage's alt mode is even more of a nothing burger than Soundave's but we see that it's just a way to fold him into the chest cavity.

Posted: **Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:59 pm**

Wow, I knew Ravage was smaller than most Cores when shown in package next to Shockwave, but he's even smaller than I thought he'd be.

Emerje

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:29 am**

Emerje wrote:Wow, I knew Ravage was smaller than most Cores when shown in package next to Shockwave, but he's even smaller than I thought he'd be.

Emerje

And yet that's still not the smallest Ravage we've ever gotten!

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:59 am**

The more I look at the Core class Shockwave, the more I like it, however I will be skipping it as it looks like it is a downscaling of a figure I already have. Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager class Shockwave!

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:13 am**

rickdraco wrote:The more I look at the Core class Shockwave, the more I like it, however I will be skipping it as it looks like it is a downscaling of a figure I already have. Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager class Shockwave!

Why skip it? It's made to be used with larger figures like titans and such. Your BH Shockwave could also have a son!

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:29 am**

Main reason is that I'm at a point I need to be very selective what I buy for my collection! Right now my wish list for figures is the Studio Series Bumblebee Ratchet, Legacy Skids, and my current ultimate grail, Titans Return Misfire!

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:10 pm**

Is that the throne / command chair from the SS-86 Starscream?

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:11 pm**

rickdraco wrote:Main reason is that I'm at a point I need to be very selective what I buy for my collection! Right now my wish list for figures is the Studio Series Bumblebee Ratchet, Legacy Skids, and my current ultimate grail, Titans Return Misfire!

Hopefully you get him soon, it's honestly a nice figure. I have mine displayed amongst his other Targetmaster brethren! (Still waiting for a new Needlenose toy...at least the subscription service figure can suffice in the meantime...)

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:39 pm**

Overcracker wrote:Is that the throne / command chair from the SS-86 Starscream?

Sure is. Just need some black paint and Movie-styled Impactors to complete the picture

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:56 pm**

Imagine actually transforming Soundwave correctly so he doesn't have his head showing in alt mode. Dude shoulda looked at the instructions (No need to correct me, I'm "aware" of why he may potentially be missing instructions). As For Soundwave and Ravage, I was really hoping to just buy the Offroad Bumbelebee (which i did) and have my sole BB movie representation. But these Cybertron bots and cons from the movie are so tempting that I may want to dip into the live action side of Studio Series too.

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 pm**

Shockwave looks great and all, but his existence still bothers me. His inclusion in Studio Series makes no sense when it comes to scale, he’s one of the first SS figures to break this rule, it seems. It would have made way more sense to release a G1 Core Class Shockwave, he would complement the other Kingdom Core Cons perfectly.

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:01 pm**

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Is that the throne / command chair from the SS-86 Starscream?

Sure is. Just need some black paint and Movie-styled Impactors to complete the picture

Thanks. Yes. Recreating Siege Soundblaster’s throne room.

Posted: **Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:30 pm**

Stormshot_Prime wrote:It would have made way more sense to release a G1 Core Class Shockwave, he would complement the other Kingdom Core Cons perfectly.

They are, in Legacy.

Posted: **Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:03 am**

Slashercon wrote:Imagine actually transforming Soundwave correctly so he doesn't have his head showing in alt mode. Dude shoulda looked at the instructions (No need to correct me, I'm "aware" of why he may potentially be missing instructions). As For Soundwave and Ravage, I was really hoping to just buy the Offroad Bumbelebee (which i did) and have my sole BB movie representation. But these Cybertron bots and cons from the movie are so tempting that I may want to dip into the live action side of Studio Series too.

I don't see any way to hide the head on Soundwave. The picture of it upright is the bottom of the alt mode with the head turned backwards, in the picture of the top the head is turned down. In neither picture is there anything that would hide the head. I don't think they intend for you to look at it from the underside.

Emerje

Posted: **Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:10 am**

Emerje wrote:
Slashercon wrote:Imagine actually transforming Soundwave correctly so he doesn't have his head showing in alt mode. Dude shoulda looked at the instructions (No need to correct me, I'm "aware" of why he may potentially be missing instructions). As For Soundwave and Ravage, I was really hoping to just buy the Offroad Bumbelebee (which i did) and have my sole BB movie representation. But these Cybertron bots and cons from the movie are so tempting that I may want to dip into the live action side of Studio Series too.

I don't see any way to hide the head on Soundwave. The picture of it upright is the bottom of the alt mode with the head turned backwards, in the picture of the top the head is turned down. In neither picture is there anything that would hide the head. I don't think they intend for you to look at it from the underside.

Emerje

I think there's some flaps on the shoulders that fold out to hide the head, at least that's what they look like. Could be wrong, and it doesn't do a whole lot to reduce the sheer nothingyness of the altmode. A shame as his robot mode looks fantastic.

Shockwave looks good too, though damn those proportions are thicc! I had a very silly idea a while back for justifying multiple Shockwaves by saying he created multiple clones of himself to solve his understaffing problem (it's only logical!) and this can be the obligatory female clone/the Slipstream.

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