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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:18 pm
by william-james88
ZeroWolf wrote:
o.supreme wrote:So :TAKARATOMY: is getting Thundercracker?

Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!

Wait, really? I cant belive I forgot that

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:30 pm
by ZeroWolf
I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it ;-) it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:49 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it ;-) it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.


That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:

1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout

9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)

10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)

14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"

19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???

21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)

Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.

Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:04 am
by ZeroWolf
Now I am confused as I looked at tformers :-? Plus the evidence in potp that they are getting non-exclusive nem and wreck gar would suggest that thundercracker is not going to be a problem.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:21 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
ZeroWolf wrote:Now I am confused as I looked at tformers :-? Plus the evidence in potp that they are getting non-exclusive nem and wreck gar would suggest that thundercracker is not going to be a problem.


Store exclusives are fair game like all regular retail items, but releasing them and how is still up to TakaraTomy's discretion and how they can find proper venues.

Main point remains the toys themselves have no differences between the two companies, that's the only thing the whole streamlining has done. The lines are not treated the same, to take PotP again as an example, the toys were released out of order, with the complete combiner teams released in single waves and the retools at the very end of the line.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:53 am
by Overcracker
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it ;-) it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.


That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:

1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout

9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)

10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)

14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"

19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???

21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)

Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.

Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.


As I said, In Takara´s line:
SS-11 is Megatron. Hasbro´s 13
SS-12 is Brawl same as Hasbro

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:03 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Overcracker wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it ;-) it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.


That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:

1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout

9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)

10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)

14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"

19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???

21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)

Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.

Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.


As I said, In Takara´s line:
SS-11 is Megatron. Hasbro´s 13
SS-12 is Brawl same as Hasbro


Thanks for the correction. :)

Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:22 pm
by william-james88
As with Brawl, Megatron and Jazz, while Studio Series wave 2 has hit a few retailers, there is little talk about them. They have yet to reach saturation and their higher prices at several retailers might make them less obvious to own. I have a pictorial review for every toy of Wave 2 so far so I thought I would complete that with Lockdown. As with every other toy in this wave (and line), there is a lot to like but it is also far from perfect.

The first thing I would like to get out of the way is that unlike what it seemed at first, this is not a tall deluxe. For the life of me I could not find his previous deluxe in my collection bins, so I have a comparison to a bunch of other toys instead to show you what I mean.

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People had wondered if this was a retool of Cogman but it isn't. It is as similar to Cogman as it is to TLK Barricade, which are all shellformers with the feet in the back and the torso at the front. That is basically where the similarities end. Unlike Cogman, I found Lockdown to have an uninventive transformation for a shellformer.

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While the backpack does fold into itself, it is still pretty big and definitely takes away from the silhouette the robot mode sculpting promises. It doesn't help him feel more boxy and wide than he should be, which is already conveyed with his truncated neck and wide arms. About the arms, I do not know why they chose to have the upper arm be actual car mode detail rather than sculpting some robot mode detail under that piece and making it face that way. it just looks off. Yes, they do add these flip out robot mode detail launchers and while it is a good idea, it is not done well. They have a very flimsy connection and can easily pop off.

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The weapons are fine. No gun face, but we do get the hook. We also get a Sword/Blaster (something very common in Age of Extinction) but he cant hold it as a blaster. Both weapons can be hooked onto the outside of the forearms, which is also where they can be hooked on in vehicle mode.

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The sculpting is clearly the best part though. Too bad the deco doesn't highlight as much as I would like, they don't even paint the Lamborghini symbol split across his chest.

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While the face sculpt is nice, the expression they gave him is that of massive boredom. To the point that it can really get in the way of a cool scene.

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I don't have any issue with the car mode. I like that they painted the tail lights but I would have really liked that they gave some detail to the Lamborghini symbol in the front, like they had done with last year's Hot Rod.

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So in the end it's a great sculpt and cool car mode, definitely better than the previous attempt. However this is still a very typical shellformer at a scale that doesn't really help me. The nice sculpting hides away the fact that this toy doesn't accomplish much aside from looking good in a few areas, making it feel more like a mild improvement over the definite version of a character. Add that to a the lackluster deco and this is another example of a movie toy in the Studio Series line that doesn't feel more "premium" than any other movie toy from previous lines. He is fine but it's not a toy I think I will go back to often (until I have an accompanying Optimus).

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:39 am
by -Kanrabat-
One day, these new shiny SS figures will come to my town...

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:54 am
by ZeroWolf
Good review will, and again, thanks for doing them :-)

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:47 am
by Carnivius_Prime
william-james88 wrote:So in the end it's a great sculpt and cool car mode, definitely better than the previous attempt. However this is still a very typical shellformer at a scale that doesn't really help me. The nice sculpting hides away the fact that this toy doesn't accomplish much aside from looking good in a few areas, making it feel more like a mild improvement over the definite version of a character. Add that to a the lackluster deco and this is another example of a movie toy in the Studio Series line that doesn't feel more "premium" than any other movie toy from previous lines. He is fine but it's not a toy I think I will go back to often (until I have an accompanying Optimus).


Yeah again I like your photos but I just don't agree with your reviews. I think this Lockdown is a superb figure and a massive improvement over the previous attempt in size, sculpt and proportions and is in my opinion one of the coolest looking bad guy (avoided saying Decepticon cos he's technically not one) Transformers figures ever.

flip out robot mode detail launchers and while it is a good idea, it is not done well. They have a very flimsy connection and can easily pop off.


How? Mine don't even come off if I try pulling at them or lifting up the whole figure by either one of them.

Size difference between old deluxe and studio deluxe and Peru Kill.
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(image from this thread on TFW2005 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/t ... 903/page-3 )

I actually like the Studio figure more than Peru Kill. While PK does a better job folding away all the car parts, I prefer the look of the Studio figure much more. The old Deluxe just looks like a dork with those bad proportions it has. Like Jazz, Lockdown was another figure I paid £7 over the RRP for just to get it a bit earlier and I have no regrets. Love the sculpt and he looks great displayed on my shelf (with his unique backdrop art) or on my desk when he's my deskbot of the week or so. :P

My Lockdown (and Jazz and Prime)
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My photography is crap but I kinda like how one of Jazz's headlights on his shoulder has turned orange from the light shining through Prime's sword. That's neat. Again Jazz posing just fine even without needing the black stabiliser parts folded out.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:14 am
by ToaLeePrime
Love this guy, if they were to release a masked variant with guns instead of melee weapons you can bet your aft I'd buy it.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:12 am
by Deadput
A ROTF repaint of the Studio Series voyager Starscream was just officially announced on Hasbros Instagram today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlQUCtMhw_t ... 2wml2brkp9

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:54 am
by Carnivius_Prime
Deadput wrote:A ROTF repaint of the Studio Series voyager Starscream was just officially announced on Hasbros Instagram today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlQUCtMhw_t ... 2wml2brkp9


I love the first release of this Starscream mold but I see this RotF version with the tattoos and sawblade I like so much so I'm quite happy buying it again. :D

New Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Starscream Deco Revealed

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:55 am
by Va'al
The Transformers Studio Series line, featuring 'definitive' toy versions of the live action movieverse characters, has already had its Voyager class Starscream appearance (as you can see in our ranking here) - but as hinted at by the Takara Tomy listings found the other day, we may indeed have a second version of the same mold in the line, sporting the tattoo pattern as the previous Leader class figure had for Revenge of the Fallen.

Check out the image below, posted today by the Hasbro Pulse Instagram account, and brought to our attention by fellow Seibetronian Deadput - will you be double dipping, or do you have no interest in this redeco of the Decepticon second in command? Let us know in the Energon Pub!

Check out the Studio Series Voyager Class Starscream from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:59 am
by Agent 53
Ah so the figure representing Starscream that we all kinda knew was gonna show up (It's a new paint-job, nothing more, easy for Hasbro) has been announced.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:02 am
by -Kanrabat-
That one was the obvious repaint. However, having the original SS Screamers plus the DOTM deluxe and HFTD leader, this one is unnecessary for me.
(Then I'll see it on clearance and I'll buy it anyway)

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:04 am
by Carnivius_Prime
When is it out? I need it. And Ironhide. I need that too.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:11 am
by Randomhero
Agent 53 wrote:Ah so the figure representing Starscream that we all kinda knew was gonna show up (It's a new paint-job, nothing more, easy for Hasbro) has been announced.



He also comes with the abandoned saw blade accessory the original was intended to come with which I’m very happy about and said “If the tattoo deco comes with it I’m in” and I am.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:20 am
by ZeroWolf
Did he keep this look for Dark of the Moon? Anyways I like what I see :D

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:23 am
by Carnivius_Prime
ZeroWolf wrote:Did he keep this look for Dark of the Moon? Anyways I like what I see :D


Yes he did. Which be why the Deluxe figure from that film's toyline (that Studio is based on) had the tats. :)

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:39 am
by EvasionModeBumblebee
Looks cool! Between the first SS and HFTD Starscreams though I don’t think I need this one. Also, on kind of a cool note, this Starscream has a little Decepticon logo on it in the same spot as the electronics button on HFTD Starscream. It doesn’t look like this :CON: is a part of the on-screen tattoos, so it may be a cool reference to the past figure.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:07 pm
by Carnivius_Prime
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Looks cool! Between the first SS and HFTD Starscreams though I don’t think I need this one. Also, on kind of a cool note, this Starscream has a little Decepticon logo on it in the same spot as the electronics button on HFTD Starscream. It doesn’t look like this :CON: is a part of the on-screen tattoos, so it may be a cool reference to the past figure.
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That's a neat lil easter egg sorta thing if it is indeed referencing the leader class figure.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:20 pm
by DISCHARGE
Tattoo SS will be the only movie toy ill have bought since AoE.(maybe I did get a couple ttchangers.)

He should look nice next to Nebular SS.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:47 pm
by WreckerJack
Really tempted here but I don't like the price tag on these it seems. PotP are more well made.