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How Come deluxe 2008 Bumblebee Has A Gun With No Bullets, But A Blade?

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:20 am
by Bumbled
I read about this at Monkeybartv.
How come Deluxe 2008 Bumblebee has a gun with no bullets, but a blade?
It's strange how the 74 one has Plasma Cannons with bullets. But this is just a cannon, that can be folded into a blade.
The other question is when did Bumblebee use this in the movie... did he even have a blade?

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:29 am
by neocrasher
he likes to trick enemies into thinking they'll be shot but instead get a hot energon blade to the face. bb is hardcore.

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:30 am
by Bumbled
He isn't really hardcore, but I guess he is a bit like Jazz eh, has the implement of style. But if he was hardcore he'd be like Bonecrusher, and he's definitely not like Bonecrusher.

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:32 am
by Saya
It makes the cannon more interesting?

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:36 am
by Bumbled
Yeh, still a bullet would of been better in my opinion, I hate swords and stuff.

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:50 am
by neocrasher
i like having gimmicky weapons and whatnot. i was thinking yeah a missile would be cooler but then i realized i rarely fire them haha

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:38 am
by MegaDave
Personally i like the cannon/blade its gives BB a choice between a cannon or a melee weapon

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:10 am
by Onus
Well, if you think about it. Bumblebee is the autobot spy. What better way to make a silent kill than to sneak up behind and backstab a decepticon with an energy blade? When in a covert operation. the last thing you want to do is pull the trigger on a cannon.

Re: How Come deluxe 2008 Bumblebee Has A Gun With No Bullets, But A Blade?

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:32 am
by Auto Bot
Bumbled wrote:I read about this at Monkeybartv.
How come Deluxe 2008 Bumblebee has a gun with no bullets, but a blade?
It's strange how the 74 one has Plasma Cannons with bullets. But this is just a cannon, that can be folded into a blade.
The other question is when did Bumblebee use this in the movie... did he even have a blade?
In the movie, it was his right hand transforming into a gun. The toy version approximates that gun, and attaches it to the hand.
Notice the hand (of the toy) is not holding the gun in the usual way. But rather, grabing it in a forward manner. Making the gun look like it's the continuous extension of the arm. Much like the movie image.
The gun actually looks quite accurate with the movie.
I don't know the explanation of the blade thing.
Probably he has an ability to convert his arm into a blade as well. Like Prime's.

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:40 am
by GrimSqueaker
I was thinking the same thing about wreckages gun/swords and i figure.....
If u are using an energy based weapon if u smple change the frequency in which it is produced u could choose between have it make short bursts which would project over long distances and "fire" or having a constant stream which would disapate after a relatively very short distance, which would be more use in a melee.
It makes a lot of sense when u look at it that way!
Its like having different barrels to attach to a gun to make it fire over different ranges, or attatching a bayonet instead.
As a matter of fact thats what it is, A BAY-onet!
I am so clever!

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:15 pm
by 1337W422102
The rape-blade is from the Transformers movie video game. I think his 3-hit combo attack allows him to deploy the blade and shock foes.
It's an energy weapon, Hawking. Energy weapons don't shoot bullets!
If by 'bullets' you mean 'missiles,' think about toy laws. Projectiles need to be 2 inches long, I think. If his cannon was to be able to shoot a 2-inch-long missile, the cannon itself would have to be much bigger (and they'd probably screw up the proportions resulting in something bloated, ugly, and non-accurate like Ironhide's cannons) OR have the missile stick out of the barrel like those ulgy ones on the first Deluxe Bumblebee.
Re: How Come deluxe 2008 Bumblebee Has A Gun With No Bullets, But A Blade?

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:19 pm
by softimus_prime
Bumbled wrote:I read about this at Monkeybartv.
How come Deluxe 2008 Bumblebee has a gun with no bullets, but a blade?
It's strange how the 74 one has Plasma Cannons with bullets. But this is just a cannon, that can be folded into a blade.
The other question is when did Bumblebee use this in the movie... did he even have a blade?
yeah your right i kinda wonder how come a blade pops up insted of putting a transparent blue cannon blast like bullet... hmmm. weird

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:28 pm
by i_amtrunks
I thought it may have had something to do with the fact that there is no room for any missiles to be stored on Bumblebee that would pass the strict US toy safety laws, and rather than give you a rather lame plain cannon, that Hasbro decided to put their gimmick to use.
08 Bumblebee has 3 Automorph features (technically 4), 1 on each leg, his chest, as well as his weapon. Not bad for a Deluxe class figure.
Personally I like the blade, its a nice change from a giant long missile, that usually still manages to get lost with the greatest of ease. Also gives posing and diorama's more flair.

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:37 pm
by softimus_prime
well whatever weapon bb got it's still freaking cool!

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:40 pm
by softimus_prime
i_amtrunks wrote:I thought it may have had something to do with the fact that there is no room for any missiles to be stored on Bumblebee that would pass the strict US toy safety laws, and rather than give you a rather lame plain cannon, that Hasbro decided to put their gimmick to use.
08 Bumblebee has 3 Automorph features (technically 4), 1 on each leg, his chest, as well as his weapon. Not bad for a Deluxe class figure.
Personally I like the blade, its a nice change from a giant long missile, that usually still manages to get lost with the greatest of ease. Also gives posing and diorama's more flair.
btw is it true that the new 08 bb doesn't have automorph problems like the 74 bb?

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:04 pm
by i_amtrunks
softimus_prime wrote:btw is it true that the new 08 bb doesn't have automorph problems like the 74 bb?
If you had have asked me this a few days ago I would have said none what-so-ever. I still say that now, but with a warning:
His chest Automorph can slip teeth, much like Blackout's can.
Note that this only happened after 4 of my friends had spent close to 3 hours between them trying to transform him form robot mode to car mode without instructions, and had ignored me telling them that the arms need to be in a certain position to transform him correctly.
All their force and effore eventually led to the teeth slipping, and the transformation being un-aligned. I managed to fix it though so its no biggy.
The feet automorph is also getting a little loose, but this is bound to happen to all the automoporhs, and really does not impact the figure at all.

Posted:
Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:07 pm
by starhorse
I really don't like firing missiles anyway, so I'm not gonna complain. And having the ability to transform the cannon into a close quarters combat sword seems just dandy.

Posted:
Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:44 pm
by Auto Bot
BB 08's automorphs are really cool.


Posted:
Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:47 pm
by Auto Bot
I prefer the no-missiles design of BB 08's weapon.
Makes him and his weapon looks more realistic.
No missile, no projectiles... means no additional springs that can break down in the long run.
I'm actually worried about the automorph breaking down in the years to come.

Posted:
Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:49 pm
by gjk13
To me, the sword resembles a bee stinger.

Posted:
Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:57 pm
by 1337W422102
Auto Bot wrote:I'm actually worried about the automorph breaking down in the years to come.
I know what you mean. That crap breaks, there goes your figure. That's why I'm worried about my Ironhide's legs, everytime I transform them one leg is stiff and won't budge, and I have to force it, etc.
One more thing: there's no need to double-post. Next time, just click on the "Edit" button on your last post and modify your message.


Posted:
Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:06 pm
by PrimeSuspect
Hey, look, my opinion on the missiles is that if it looks good, go for it (Leader Class Prime OH MY GOD), but they're easy things to lose, which is why accessories go for 20+ bucks on eBay.
Less missiles to lose is good for me. In fact, I've got to start putting my excess TF accessories/peripherals into a plastic bag so I don't lose them.

Posted:
Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:19 am
by Auto Bot
PrimeSuspect wrote:Hey, look, my opinion on the missiles is that if it looks good, go for it (Leader Class Prime OH MY GOD), but they're easy things to lose, which is why accessories go for 20+ bucks on eBay.
Less missiles to lose is good for me. In fact, I've got to start putting my excess TF accessories/peripherals into a plastic bag so I don't lose them.
Most of the time, i left the missiles in the original box/packaging. Didn't bother to take them out.
Except for missiles that for an integral part of the weapon. Such as Classics Starscreams shoulder guns.

Posted:
Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:22 am
by Briggs
He has a form of axe/blade in the game.

Posted:
Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:28 am
by magnusupreme
well, it's not too late because that balde could be a prototype and think it like this,that blade can fire blasts and goes everywhere but there's those folding peices make it only go through that hole. If you know what I mean.