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DeathReviews wrote:Here's how it should really have been:

While much more accurate it's probably a less eye-catching statement to display on a cover.

"Plus, his alt mode is pretty crap"
uh lets see an alt mode that looks like a spaceship vs a spider tank thing
we all know the clear winner is the spaceship

Ultra Markus wrote:"Plus, his alt mode is pretty crap"
uh lets see an alt mode that looks like a spaceship vs a spider tank thing
we all know the clear winner is the spaceship

Doesn't look lat ke much of a spaceship to me. And the other isn't great either, I Just meant that I don't find the cyber battalion to be so obviously better.

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:"Plus, his alt mode is pretty crap"
uh lets see an alt mode that looks like a spaceship vs a spider tank thing
we all know the clear winner is the spaceship

Doesn't look lat ke much of a spaceship to me. And the other isn't great either, I Just meant that I don't find the cyber battalion to be so obviously better.

at least it looks like something
Like an effort was put into making it into a ship
for the cyberversef I just think they got lazy on the altmode for a decent looking robot

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:"Plus, his alt mode is pretty crap"
uh lets see an alt mode that looks like a spaceship vs a spider tank thing
we all know the clear winner is the spaceship

Doesn't look lat ke much of a spaceship to me. And the other isn't great either, I Just meant that I don't find the cyber battalion to be so obviously better.

I do though. Even just from the design of the robot mode. I don't like the Cyberverse one at all. Yeah, knee joints would be nice but I'd still far prefer seeing the Battalion one standing on my shelf than the Cyberverse figure. There's way too many aesthetic and design choices I dislike about the Cyberverse Shocky wheras the Battalion is a decent sized fairly classic look of the character that could suffice until something better comes along of which is has not yet done so (not including MP cos that's different scale and silly monies)

Ultra Markus wrote:Like an effort was put into making it into a ship
for the cyberversef I just think they got lazy on the altmode for a decent looking robot

Better-Flexibility.jpg

Reminds me of the Exorcist (which I always felt was a trashy film even when I was a kid)

Sorry william-james88,but I agree with the other guys on this topic.There's no way you will get me to agree that Cyberverse is better than the Cyber Battalion one.

I prfer the simple spaceship resembling his G1 gun mode,than a walking on all fours mode.

I dont think its the worst toy ever,but the way you trash the Cyber battalion is baffling to me.

TulioDude wrote:Sorry william-james88,but I agree with the other guys on this topic.There's no way you will get me to agree that Cyberverse is better than the Cyber Battalion one.

I prfer the simple spaceship resembling his G1 gun mode,than a walking on all fours mode.

I dont think its the worst toy ever,but the way you trash the Cyber battalion is baffling to me.

Have you guys handled the cyber battalion toys? Or tried posing them? That line is incredibly lacking. For the same price, we get the Ultra shockwave which seems to have as much quality as the Prime Voyager from a few years back with similar articulation. I am equally baffled by those preffering a budget line upscaled toy specifically made for developping countries.

Plus, looking at the alt mode, neither are great, but at least the exposed limbs for cyberverse are the limbs of the tank rather than the arms in the cyber battalion doing nothing.

I also find it incredibly belittling and immature of people in this thread to present hyperbolic images of people in weird poses when the alt mode (while admittedly not the best) is an actual legit thing



And one we already had in Transformers



I am not saying this toy is great, but it will do the job fine and I think it will do a better job than the cyber battalion if only due to the better articulation and less hollow/light feel

You guys can be the judge when you get them in hand. In any case, I already made my top 5 Shockwave list and neither seem good enough to replace any entries.

To me, the cyber battalion seems only good enough for static poses while you got more posing options with cyberverse. I've made my choice and it's each to their own but a spider tank isn't bad.

ZeroWolf wrote:To me, the cyber battalion seems only good enough for static poses while you got more posing options with cyberverse. I've made my choice and it's each to their own but a spider tank isn't bad.

I see it as some sort of BEAST WARS Shockwave. When transforming, he reuse his limbs for another form and function. And I'm pretty fine with it. Especially for the Ultra.

A minor bump with a request: with the mixed amazon listings partially decyphered, can anyone provide me with the product codes of the toys already released?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A minor bump with a request: with the mixed amazon listings partially decyphered, can anyone provide me with the product codes of the toys already released?

Would those be on the package itself?

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A minor bump with a request: with the mixed amazon listings partially decyphered, can anyone provide me with the product codes of the toys already released?

Would those be on the package itself?

Usually near the bar code on the 4-language packages. I can't seem to spot them on the toys however.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A minor bump with a request: with the mixed amazon listings partially decyphered, can anyone provide me with the product codes of the toys already released?

Would those be on the package itself?

Usually near the bar code on the 4-language packages. I can't seem to spot them on the toys however.

Cyberverse Scout Megatron: E1895/E1883 Asst
Cyberverse Scout Windblade: E1896/E1883 Asst

New con video!



https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... uzz/41674/

At the very first reveal of the Cyberverse toyline, Scout Megatron seemed a winner. Especially since he seemed like a better option at first for a Scout sized G1 Megatron than the simplistic Authentics version.

However, any excitement soon died down when we realized something several fans are still coming to terms with: he does not fully transform. In fact none of the scout class Transformers in this line transform fully. They go from robot to mid transformation. But it could work right? Maybe? Well let's see.

So firstly, looking at the robot mode I will admit that it looks fine. He looks the part and there is some paint to convey the details, but that's basically it in terms of positives. The articulation is lacking since the all you get are the 4 articulation points of the most basic Stars Wars figures. So only a static pose works here.















While fans have called these action masters (for reasons we will get into soon), I think the best comparison would be to the Jumpstarters since they are also very limited in articulation and are centered around a gimmick with an overly simple transformation that doesn't result in anything I would call a decent alt mode.





Now, for "transformation", all you do is have him in a sitting pose and unfold the legs and there you go!





What I find saddest of all here is that the tank treads don't even look good. It turns out the tank tread detail we see in robot mode is only for the robot mode and the actual tank treads are on the flip side, which looks like inner bot detail. I was wondering if there was a way to rotate the flap and see the other side instead, which looks more the part, but no.







You do get an action feature where you can turn the torso, which locks, and then squeeze his tank treads to have him spin and flip out his energy mace. I will admit, it works fine. If you know what you are getting into, then this toy does the job it promises to do (flip out a mace) but I don't see why that would be more important for a Transformers toy to do than actually transform.







At least the package art makes this look kinda cool:



In the end, I do not recommend this toy, especially not when it is about $10 ($4-$5 would make more sense for how limiting the play options are). Your young kids are better off with one steps, which at least give them a Transformers experience, no matter how simple, where you at least get the notion of two toys in one.

weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.

the whole line seems steeped in warm crap.

usually i hold my judgement for more input and info,
but...
COME ON!!!!

on the upside...
my wallet can take a breather

Seeing them in person, they are indeed covered in weak sauce

Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.

the whole line seems steeped in warm crap.

usually i hold my judgement for more input and info,
but...
COME ON!!!!

on the upside...
my wallet can take a breather

happymeal toy was my first thought
i dont think happymeal toys are this horrible
as for gimmick all i see is a sad attempt at one
hasbro execs must think kids are stupid to by into a transformer that half transforms
this is below even 1 or 2 step transformers this is like half step
and its an insult to jumpsarters to even try to compare it

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Sorry william-james88,but I agree with the other guys on this topic.There's no way you will get me to agree that Cyberverse is better than the Cyber Battalion one.

I prfer the simple spaceship resembling his G1 gun mode,than a walking on all fours mode.

I dont think its the worst toy ever,but the way you trash the Cyber battalion is baffling to me.

Have you guys handled the cyber battalion toys? Or tried posing them? That line is incredibly lacking. For the same price, we get the Ultra shockwave which seems to have as much quality as the Prime Voyager from a few years back with similar articulation. I am equally baffled by those preffering a budget line upscaled toy specifically made for developping countries.

Plus, looking at the alt mode, neither are great, but at least the exposed limbs for cyberverse are the limbs of the tank rather than the arms in the cyber battalion doing nothing.

I also find it incredibly belittling and immature of people in this thread to present hyperbolic images of people in weird poses when the alt mode (while admittedly not the best) is an actual legit thing



And one we already had in Transformers



I am not saying this toy is great, but it will do the job fine and I think it will do a better job than the cyber battalion if only due to the better articulation and less hollow/light feel

You guys can be the judge when you get them in hand. In any case, I already made my top 5 Shockwave list and neither seem good enough to replace any entries.

if they made that shockwave look like any of those sure, but it doesnt come close
instead it barely transforms into an attempt at one

Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.

Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.

I may just buy the Ultra Shockwave from this whole line.

Thanks will for taking one for the team and actually buying one of the scout class (you did only buy one right?) I think the scouts are a step backwards but if kids buy them, what can we do? Though if kids don't buy them then maybe the design team will go back to the drawing board and either just make the scouts more affordable fully transforming figures (for the right price simplistic transformations would be acceptable)

I assumed the half-transformed battle mode was just that, not that it was the only alt-mode. I'm usually pretty easy to please, but I just don't get the thought process behind these at all.

Giant Purple Griffin wrote:I assumed the half-transformed battle mode was just that, not that it was the only alt-mode. I'm usually pretty easy to please, but I just don't get the thought process behind these at all.

Yeah, many of us assumed that, but sadly its not the case for any of these scout figures. They even made art for that funky alt mode:

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks will for taking one for the team and actually buying one of the scout class (you did only buy one right?)

Yes dont worry, its the only one i got. Curiosity got the better of me.

Nexus Knight wrote:
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.

They do. Their robot modes arent as nice but they fully transform and have a wind up mechanism.

However, that is long ago and current happy meal toys are just static bricks with no playability. I would be happy getting this Megatron in a happy meal (but I wouldnt want it from anywhere else).

Nexus Knight wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.

Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.

I own them all too, and they are alot more fun. But someone said that they had windup mechanisms, and I will say that they don't. The french ones do, but not the american ones that I have