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Va'al wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

They've both had shady pasts in IDW at least, so they may be playing with the one being a darker or lighter shade of grey than the other!

Looking closely, there is definitely a decepticon symbol on Impactors shoulder, what on earth is Hasbro up to?

Budder Prime wrote:

Va'al wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

They've both had shady pasts in IDW at least, so they may be playing with the one being a darker or lighter shade of grey than the other!

Looking closely, there is definitely a decepticon symbol on Impactors shoulder, what on earth is Hasbro up to?

Sins of the Wreckers ended with Impactor joining up with a Cybertronian insurgent group based on Earth that was dedicated to overthrowing the major players they saw as perpetuating inequality. This included Optimus Prime and most of Autobot high command.
I think.

Maybe that's what they're following up on, though those guys definitely weren't Decepticons.

ricemazter wrote:

Budder Prime wrote:

Va'al wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

They've both had shady pasts in IDW at least, so they may be playing with the one being a darker or lighter shade of grey than the other!

Looking closely, there is definitely a decepticon symbol on Impactors shoulder, what on earth is Hasbro up to?

Sins of the Wreckers ended with Impactor joining up with a Cybertronian insurgent group based on Earth that was dedicated to overthrowing the major players they saw as perpetuating inequality. This included Optimus Prime and most of Autobot high command.
I think.

Maybe that's what they're following up on, though those guys definitely weren't Decepticons.

Is the actual Revolution a-comin'? https://twitter.com/NickRoche/status/964271896551481344



I doubt it, just throwing fuel on the speculation exhaust. Like so:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

No, they are very clear as to what is going on, they wrote the story all out in the blurbs found on this page: http://pulse.hasbro.com/news/war-cybert ... -vote-here

Mirage vs. the Mercenary
The Wreckers, led by Impactor, are a highly skilled team of mercenaries who are at their best when the odds of survival are at their worst. They're exactly the kind of soldiers the Autobots need on their side. Can Mirage persuade them to join the Autobot cause?

Okay, I had a quick change of heart after my post in the WFC thread. I think we should do our best to make it tie, then they have to give us all 3! I know that's not true, but it's worth a shot.

william-james88 wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

No, they are very clear as to what is going on, they wrote the story all out in the blurbs found on this page: http://pulse.hasbro.com/news/war-cybert ... -vote-here

Mirage vs. the Mercenary
The Wreckers, led by Impactor, are a highly skilled team of mercenaries who are at their best when the odds of survival are at their worst. They're exactly the kind of soldiers the Autobots need on their side. Can Mirage persuade them to join the Autobot cause?

They finally updated the link!

Gotta admit, going with the idea of 'what would I actually want to buy' this is pretty hard to choose from on the basis I'd love to get my hands on both Spinister and Needlenose to go with Quake (whose update is a cybertronian vehicle thanks to reusing the Hardhead mold). That way I'd have a complete second-batch Targetmasters trio.

However, I gotta say that I badly want Impactor simply because he's one of those characters who started off in the Marvel UK and did not originally have a toy. And eventhen, G1 Impactor has never seen mass release as a figure. Beyond that, the 'autobot' side of rivalry is something I can't really care much about because these guys are less obscure.

Either way, this all seems interesting and leave me wondering what central gimmick, if any, will be part of the War for Cybertron (stupid-ass confusing name!) trilogy. Prime War had Combiners+Masters-class figures. Will we see any unifying gimmicks here beside the cybertronian mode esthetic?

Skritz wrote:Either way, this all seems interesting and leave me wondering what central gimmick, if any, will be part of the War for Cybertron (stupid-ass confusing name!) trilogy. Prime War had Combiners+Masters-class figures. Will we see any unifying gimmicks here beside the cybertronian mode esthetic?

John Warden specifically stated that there is no Unifying ecosystem for the toys like CW, TR, and PotP had. Basically, anything goes. You could have a deluxe wave with 2 CW style figures, 1 "normal" deluxe, and 1 TR style headmaster.

The story is the unifying aspect this time around.

mordhelm wrote:

Skritz wrote:Either way, this all seems interesting and leave me wondering what central gimmick, if any, will be part of the War for Cybertron (stupid-ass confusing name!) trilogy. Prime War had Combiners+Masters-class figures. Will we see any unifying gimmicks here beside the cybertronian mode esthetic?

John Warden specifically stated that there is no Unifying ecosystem for the toys like CW, TR, and PotP had. Basically, anything goes. You could have a deluxe wave with 2 CW style figures, 1 "normal" deluxe, and 1 TR style headmaster.

The story is the unifying aspect this time around.

So it's going to be more like generations? Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

kurthy wrote:

mordhelm wrote:

Skritz wrote:Either way, this all seems interesting and leave me wondering what central gimmick, if any, will be part of the War for Cybertron (stupid-ass confusing name!) trilogy. Prime War had Combiners+Masters-class figures. Will we see any unifying gimmicks here beside the cybertronian mode esthetic?

John Warden specifically stated that there is no Unifying ecosystem for the toys like CW, TR, and PotP had. Basically, anything goes. You could have a deluxe wave with 2 CW style figures, 1 "normal" deluxe, and 1 TR style headmaster.

The story is the unifying aspect this time around.

So it's going to be more like generations? Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

Works for me.

kurthy wrote:

mordhelm wrote:

Skritz wrote:Either way, this all seems interesting and leave me wondering what central gimmick, if any, will be part of the War for Cybertron (stupid-ass confusing name!) trilogy. Prime War had Combiners+Masters-class figures. Will we see any unifying gimmicks here beside the cybertronian mode esthetic?

John Warden specifically stated that there is no Unifying ecosystem for the toys like CW, TR, and PotP had. Basically, anything goes. You could have a deluxe wave with 2 CW style figures, 1 "normal" deluxe, and 1 TR style headmaster.

The story is the unifying aspect this time around.

So it's going to be more like generations? Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

I think it's less that, and more that they want to avoid pigeonholing themselves into gimmicks that don't fit the character.

Kup, Hot Rod, and Blurr were great figures in TR, but there were a lot of complaints about them (and others) being headmasters when they shouldn't have been.

They want to give us great versions of Characters X, Y, Z, but don't want to keep trying to force a play pattern that doesn't fit. This way you can get a better representation of each character.

To reassure you a little bit, there was a large investment into the Combiner, Master, and Evolution gimmicks. They know people still want figures with these gimmicks, so they will still release them. Expect to continue to see them scattered throughout the next trilogy and in exclusives/box sets.

I am looking forward to the new line. However, if what it sounds like is happening is true, it may actually curtail my collecting a bit. I try to just get my favorite CHUG version of each character, rather then the "gotta catch em all" mentality. Or at least I will start culling and replacing. I'm sure some of my old Generations/CHUG stuff that's still MOSC/MISB could help fund the new purchases.

While I am voting Impactor and Mirage - #ImpactorvsMirage (Greater Good vs Greater Profit) I'm sure Wheeljack will win.

I voted Needlenose vs Tracks. Tracks is long overdue an update, and Needlenose's only modern toy is the FunPub redeco of Firefly (and isn't a sexy delta wing). Bring on the battle of the vaguely camp fashion-conscious robots!

Also, am I the only one who thinks a Tracks toy that triple changes from robot to sports car (preferably relatively Corvette-like) to tank? For one, it'd make his name make even more sense, and for another it'd be hilarious having Tracks of all characters turn into a tank.

Nexus Knight wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

Well, Impactor is leader of a group that specializes in doing nasty jobs other teams don't want to do. He practically lives for war and often can sympathize with commom bots. Mirage is the direct opposite. Before the war, he was a rich socialite who eschewed from commoners. He detested the incivility of war and is against the violent actions his Autobot comrades have to take. He would prefer that the two factions just sit down and make peace. Its not hard to see how they'd be opposed to each other.

So, at first glance, these two seem random picks. And they might be, but I'd like to think someone at Hasbro did their homework.

This.

Targetmaster Kup wrote:While I am voting Impactor and Mirage - #ImpactorvsMirage (Greater Good vs Greater Profit) I'm sure Wheeljack will win.

My actions and thoughts exactly.

So, how do we vote? Is there a pole or do we just write who we choose in the comments section of that Hasbro page?

It’s obviously gonna be Impactor and Mirage for me.

Jack Hallows wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

Well, Impactor is leader of a group that specializes in doing nasty jobs other teams don't want to do. He practically lives for war and often can sympathize with commom bots. Mirage is the direct opposite. Before the war, he was a rich socialite who eschewed from commoners. He detested the incivility of war and is against the violent actions his Autobot comrades have to take. He would prefer that the two factions just sit down and make peace. Its not hard to see how they'd be opposed to each other.

So, at first glance, these two seem random picks. And they might be, but I'd like to think someone at Hasbro did their homework.

This.

Targetmaster Kup wrote:While I am voting Impactor and Mirage - #ImpactorvsMirage (Greater Good vs Greater Profit) I'm sure Wheeljack will win.

My actions and thoughts exactly.

So, how do we vote? Is there a pole or do we just write who we choose in the comments section of that Hasbro page?

It’s obviously gonna be Impactor and Mirage for me.

Comments on either the Facebook post or the Instagram post, using the relevant hashtag!

Slaggin’ fractals.. that kinda alienates fans who have neither facebook nor instagram :/

Ah well. I’ll just hope there are enough Impactor fans to make up for the anti-social medi’ites.

Thanks!

I see at least two staff members have voted against Impactor.

This ... is disappointing.

#spinistervswheeljack

CJPrime931 wrote:#spinistervswheeljack

You know that posting that here doesn't count right?

mordhelm wrote:

CJPrime931 wrote:#spinistervswheeljack

You know that posting that here doesn't count right?

shhhhhh. Only correct them if they're voting for Impactor.

I'd be fine with a Wheeljack win if his alt mode is similar to this:

Burn wrote:I see at least two staff members have voted against Impactor.

This ... is disappointing.

I'm on your side this time mate!

#ImpactorvsMirage

william-james88 wrote:

kurthy wrote:Does Hasbro now think that either mirage or impactor is a bad guy now?

No, they are very clear as to what is going on, they wrote the story all out in the blurbs found on this page: http://pulse.hasbro.com/news/war-cybert ... -vote-here

The blurb says one thing, but the art clearly contradicts it by already assigning Impactor as a Decepticon.



BTW, two of the photos are swapped in the article.

Emerje

If they keep doing pairings like this, who else is hoping for Ultra Magnus and Galvatron. Also I didn't know that Tracks and Needlenose were brothers belue this and that blew my mind, but I ended up voting for Impactor and Mirage, mainly because I want a good Impactor figure.

I always need more Wheeljack figures so, #SpinisterVsWheeljack for me. Though there better be some good paint apps this time! I'm looking at you CW Wheeljack.