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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:38 am
by blackeyedprime
Think I prefer the thrilling 30 Springer, Sieges copters a bit off and not sure about car mode. Robot mode, legs could have done with being longer so it looks less clunky. Yet to pick one up so I'll see if I still feel the same when I have him.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:55 am
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
emlit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"


No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.

:roll:
Take a proper look at SIEGE Apeface:
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And now look at the original:
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Notice the color difference of that spot? On SIEGE Apeface, that spot is made from the gorilla forearms, not the back of the upper arms. So it's the gorilla forearms that would need the slope.
Adding a slope onto the shoulder itself that projects past that point wouldn't work, because it would block the arm's outward movement.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:58 am
by Stargrave
I love the smell of a Springer comparison in the morning...

I love living in a world where we have Springers to compare. :lol:

Honestly I feel like they both are so strong that it’s comparing apples to apples. That’s a super tough call for me. Like with the new Impactors- honestly if I could afford it I would get both because I like the different head designs. You know what I mean? 30 Springer is totally IDW to me whereas Siege is like old school movie Springer.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:03 am
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
T30 Springer's multipart windshield can go to hell.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:23 am
by joevill
These both look pretty badass!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:03 am
by Short Circuit
Oh my god I finally understand Apeface's headmaster now. Using the back of the legs for the robot face is genius, I thought it was a panel hidden somewhere! :HEADHURTS: I might buy him just for the ingenuity of that alone.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:18 am
by Stargrave
Apeface’s rifle looks sooo rad.

I’m getting a 30 Blitzwing shoulder vibe from that ape mode shoulder arrangement but there’s always compromises with triple changers.

Overall, mmf, can not wait for this next wave.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:20 am
by gothsaurus
I always put the rifle in the fist in jet mode to cover up the hand. I'll definitely try that on the new one.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:36 am
by -Kanrabat-
gothsaurus wrote:I always put the rifle in the fist in jet mode to cover up the hand. I'll definitely try that on the new one.


Me too. Did that since I was a child with my original.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:49 am
by gothsaurus
I've always meant to get a second gun to put in the other fist, but sheesh. They're $50 on ebay. >:oP

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:07 am
by Sentinel_Primal
On the subject of Springer, if I manage to find another one in store, I'll probably pick him up. I like the bot mode and car mode, but the copter mode is way too blocky. I know that it's G1 accurate, but if we're honest that's not always a compliment. T30 Springer is still my personal favorite design

On the subject of Apeface, I'm looking forward to giving him the TR weapon drone thing and turning him into a Targetmaster and Headmaster :lol: May even give him the Apeface Titanmaster just for a different look sometimes. Can't wait to see what Hasbro manages to give us for Snapdragon :-D

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:52 am
by blackeyedprime
Doesnt look to be anything that pops up to make apefaces robot head look bigger like on the TR figures, not that its needed, but hoping figure size remains comparable.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:19 pm
by Skritz
Man, I don't know what exactly changed but these renders made Apeface look way better...

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:36 pm
by Sentinel_Primal
Skritz wrote:Man, I don't know what exactly changed but these renders made Apeface look way better...

I'd assume it's just lighting and such here. Unless you're referring to all the images of Apeface from conventions and such, then I have no clue

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:44 pm
by Decepticon Stryker
Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.

What about the Rainmakers?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:49 pm
by Hellscream9999
Skritz wrote:Man, I don't know what exactly changed but these renders made Apeface look way better...

That's cuz these aren't renders, they're production run figures being photographed

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:34 pm
by Stargrave
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.

What about the Rainmakers?


With red eyes...like the devil’s eyes...
But really it’s kind of more orangey than red. Hmm. Ok well wave 1 Siege then :lol:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:10 pm
by Wireless_Phantom
Can't wait for Apeface!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:24 pm
by no-one
Apeface isn't wasn't on my radar, but damn it looks like a fun toy. And I love the brilliant double faced headmaster action, pretty clever.

For me Siege Springer blew T30 out of the water. I always found T30 fiddly (in all modes) and feel that Sandstorm wears the mold better with much tighter tolerances leading to both alt-modes pegging in nice and tight. Also just I love Sandstorm's VTOL backpack so much :x

T30 Springer lent his sword to Seige and slipped quietly into storage.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:33 pm
by Wolfman Jake
blackeyedprime wrote:Doesnt look to be anything that pops up to make apefaces robot head look bigger like on the TR figures, not that its needed, but hoping figure size remains comparable.


Take another look. The whole beast mode "muzzle" is a separate piece that covers up the lower half of the "beast" side face of the Titan Master. With just the Titan Master, you only get the red visor of the gorilla face. The mouth and "nose" are attached to the main robot body and sit right in front of the Titan Master when in beast mode.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:38 pm
by Jeddostotle7
Wolfman Jake wrote:Take another look. The whole beast mode "muzzle" is a separate piece that covers up the lower half of the "beast" side face of the Titan Master. With just the Titan Master, you only get the red visor of the gorilla face. The mouth and "nose" are attached to the main robot body and sit right in front of the Titan Master when in beast mode.


blackeyedprime wrote:Doesnt look to be anything that pops up to make apefaces robot head look bigger like on the TR figures, not that its needed, but hoping figure size remains comparable.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:55 pm
by DMSL
These figures are awesome, but the battle damage paint...awful.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:56 pm
by transformers_va
Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:31 pm
by Stargrave
transformers_va wrote:Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation


Aye those be the ratchets of a Titan! :lol: can’t wait to get Omega I can hear that crisp ‘chk!’ sound now...

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:39 pm
by Sabrblade
Stargrave wrote:
transformers_va wrote:Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation


Aye those be the ratchets of a Titan! :lol: can’t wait to get Omega I can hear that crisp ‘chk!’ sound now...
So long as that crisp 'chk!' never becomes a crisp 'ccrak!' sound. :oops: