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aronjlove wrote:My order from collecticontoys.com showed up and I finally have Rumble and Ratbat. I won't have time to open the actual package until after work but their scarcity has made these two almost mythical in existence, I just had to post.

Thanks for sharing I need someone to keep the dream alive I’ll see those at some point aye carumba those two and Rung and I’m set.

So I’m just going through my toy room, dusting and windexing my cases, and I get to Omega Supreme. I pop off the explodey effects, and that’s when I notice that some paint came off with them. Anybody else notice this happen to their Omega?? Is it an Omega only problem, or a problem that only happens with his effects bits?

Bucky wrote:So I’m just going through my toy room, dusting and windexing my cases, and I get to Omega Supreme. I pop off the explodey effects, and that’s when I notice that some paint came off with them. Anybody else notice this happen to their Omega?? Is it an Omega only problem, or a problem that only happens with his effects bits?

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From what I understand, it's a problem with the rubbery plastic used for the effects. It'll take the paint off of the nubs after being on them for a significant time

Yeah, the paint came off those spots on mine too, but I barely notice it honestly

There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Tuned Agent wrote:There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

Or is it biting fans waiting for a restock?

I'd say clearance prices are imminent.

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

Or is it biting fans waiting for a restock?

I'd say clearance prices are imminent.

I would hope so, otherwise leaders will never come back

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

Or is it biting fans waiting for a restock?

I'd say clearance prices are imminent.

I would hope so, otherwise leaders will never come back

Or they may have to start making leader price point figures leader sized figures shockwave and galaxy prime were already at discount over here in short supply at tk maxx and usually we only get toys there that tj maxx hasn't been able to shift stateside so it was very random.

The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I tip my hat to those sensible to wait for price reductions on shockwave/astrotrain/cliff jumper.

I'll let those richer than me disect the tr/siege astrotrains whilst confident that my cheaper tr astrotrain fits in with the cybertronian look of the siege figures and siege astrotrain is a better fit for earthrise, overpriced with stoopid boots as is. As for quality and piece count, ko mp shockwave was a much better buy from overseas than what would have cost more to buy the siege figure at rrp for a line with some out of scale figures to a mostly scale conflicted series anyways. Price definitely doesn't mean quality or higher piece count, imperfect world and all that.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

carytheone wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

I still feel throwing the armor pieces in the “junk box” is really selling the playability short. At the very least with Astrotrain you get more city/base pieces.

I felt that shockwaves bits condensing into a hover drone was pretty brilliant if you didn’t want to “armor him up”.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

I still feel throwing the armor pieces in the “junk box” is really selling the playability short. At the very least with Astrotrain you get more city/base pieces.

I felt that shockwaves bits condensing into a hover drone was pretty brilliant if you didn’t want to “armor him up”.

I had my fun with Shockwave's bits and pieces, but he doesn't display the way I like with them on. The parts are handy if I ever want to play with them, but like most of my figures, Shocky is collecting dust after the initial thrill faded away. Now he's just a solid Neo G1 display piece that I pull down form time to time.

If I get Astrotrain, he'll "suffer" the same fate. He'll end up in bot mode for 99% of his life with all his extra parts and accessories stripped and stored in the same drawer. Very few of my figures keep more than their primary weapon/accessory for display, so to me accessories are just something to store away for later. But hey, that's just a me thing.

carytheone wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

I still feel throwing the armor pieces in the “junk box” is really selling the playability short. At the very least with Astrotrain you get more city/base pieces.

I felt that shockwaves bits condensing into a hover drone was pretty brilliant if you didn’t want to “armor him up”.

I had my fun with Shockwave's bits and pieces, but he doesn't display the way I like with them on. The parts are handy if I ever want to play with them, but like most of my figures, Shocky is collecting dust after the initial thrill faded away. Now he's just a solid Neo G1 display piece that I pull down form time to time.

If I get Astrotrain, he'll "suffer" the same fate. He'll end up in bot mode for 99% of his life with all his extra parts and accessories stripped and stored in the same drawer. Very few of my figures keep more than their primary weapon/accessory for display, so to me accessories are just something to store away for later. But hey, that's just a me thing.

Oh of course I get it completely. We all have our quirks with collecting and displaying, as long as we all love transforming giant robots, we're good

I'm kinda glad I skipped TR Astro and picked up Seige, I've had this setup for about a month now, keep moving around the Micromasters and occasionally add a Seeker for additional air support.

Love it! I had my Spinister copter on my Act 5 until I needed it for floating seekers in a group shot.

There are a lot of Siege alt modes that look great in combat displays.

Carytheone, I kinda agree with you about the "Comically oversized leaders". It's the problem with doing that size class in neo-G1: there weren't a lot of tower-over-everyone characters who weren't combiners, especially during the first four years. And I too don't feel cheated by SIEGE Magnus' size. He fits the cartoon height in armored mode, and he has a roughly Voyager-size cab, so his core component is the right size and could easily be attached to a bigger trailer.

I really really want SIEGE/Earthrise Astrotrain. The steam engine mode returning is a big draw for me. And the fuel tender that turns into a shuttle launchpad feels like an accessory his original toy was always meant to have.

I kinda hated the size of TR soundwave and blaster at first but think it fits the headmasters cartoons cheese factor though they could have taken advantage of the size to make his his tape bots better. The cw leader seekers seemed way out of place.

Siege magnus needed to be the size of cw magnus for my liking (and actually needed to be a bit bigger in robot anyhoos as deluxe shouldn't be head level with the bottom of his chest windows) I know I'm likely to be disappointed with any upcoming galvatrons size to go with six shot or cw magnus but if they want to do a titan sized ultra magnus I'd be in for that

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

I still feel throwing the armor pieces in the “junk box” is really selling the playability short. At the very least with Astrotrain you get more city/base pieces.

I felt that shockwaves bits condensing into a hover drone was pretty brilliant if you didn’t want to “armor him up”.

Its not just for him, thanks to the comabt system, anyone can be mounted on a hovering artillery battery, sounds powerful to me

blackeyedprime wrote:I kinda hated the size of TR soundwave and blaster at first but think it fits the headmasters cartoons cheese factor though they could have taken advantage of the size to make his his tape bots better. The cw leader seekers seemed way out of place.

Siege magnus needed to be the size of cw magnus for my liking (and actually needed to be a bit bigger in robot anyhoos as deluxe shouldn't be head level with the bottom of his chest windows) I know I'm likely to be disappointed with any upcoming galvatrons size to go with six shot or cw magnus but if they want to do a titan sized ultra magnus I'd be in for that

Titan is too much, but Commander would work great. That would make him as big next to Deluxes as the original toy is to Diaclone-derived Autobot cars. I hope to see a Commander-class Magnus in either Earthrise or the third part of the trilogy.

I don't feel cheated by SIEGE Magnus' size because it's the best that could be done with the Leader class's plastic limits these days, and at least unlike CW Magnus he has an actual independent cab robot that's the right size. And which would easily be given a bigger trailer.
Also, SIEGE Magnus can still carry 2 Deluxes as-is, so he doesn't lose out compared to CW Mags on that score.

Commander class could be cool for him, I kind of hope he gets his diaclone roller buddy at some point. Always seems a shame when figures miss out on something that diaclone had.

blackeyedprime wrote:Commander class could be cool for him, I kind of hope he gets his diaclone roller buddy at some point. Always seems a shame when figures miss out on something that diaclone had.

Now introducing: Weaponizer/Modulator Powerdrive!

A weaponizer roller for Prime or Ultra Magnus (they could do a Delta Magnus Selects release with a redecoed Roller for extra sale potential) would be very welcome.