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Upon further review, I'm changing my mind on Shockwave and Soundwave. I don't care for Soundwave's alt mode, but I'm warming up to the bot mode, despite the hollow forearms. And Shockwave looks good in robot mode without all the kibble, and his space cannon mode is tolerable, even though it looks like it's upside down. His chest should be pointing down. And even though I never cared for the character, I'm intrigued to see the rest of Omega Supreme. Just like Trypticon, the G1 toy was an utter piece of ****, so he's due a good figure.

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Guys, I figured it out.

Shockwave's alt mode is the Nemesis!

I'm not saying your wrong, but convince me


so I can join in on the fun

So here is Shockwave:



And here is the Nemesis:



So, first things first, it's purple. we got a tall command tower towards the back in similar positions. We got vertical stabilizers on the wings, and you can say his extra guns could be the vertical stabilizers on the bottom of the nemesis. Long nose forwards on both. With the battlemaster in that shot, you could have Shockwave firing (using the firing effects) broadsides at the Ark, or even pretend you have the boarding beams.

It sort of looks like it, not perfect, but it's basically a miniature Nemesis.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:It sort of looks like it, not perfect, but it's basically a miniature Nemesis.

Ah yes, I see what you're getting at. The back end looks the part but the front is just too blunt and Shockwave like. Shockysis? Nemwave? Meh...

I really dig the combined alt-mode, but not so much the combined bot mode. Looks fun to fiddle with, but ultimately will stay off or in space jet ski mode.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Guys, I figured it out.

Shockwave's alt mode is the Nemesis!

I'm not saying your wrong, but convince me


so I can join in on the fun

So here is Shockwave:



And here is the Nemesis:



So, first things first, it's purple. we got a tall command tower towards the back in similar positions. We got vertical stabilizers on the wings, and you can say his extra guns could be the vertical stabilizers on the bottom of the nemesis. Long nose forwards on both. With the battlemaster in that shot, you could have Shockwave firing (using the firing effects) broadsides at the Ark, or even pretend you have the boarding beams.

It sort of looks like it, not perfect, but it's basically a miniature Nemesis.

I see what you're saying, but... I think it looks more like Galvatron's ship the Revenge!

Seibertron.com is giving you all the information available from New York Comic Con, and with so many different lines we have several new videos and official images to show you of the new revealed figures!

First up, we have the highly anticipated War for Cybertron: Siege Decepticons, including the likes of Megatron, Shockwave, Flywheels, Reflector, Brunt, Whisper, Storm Cloud and more!

We have both a video of the show floor and diorama as well as a great gallery for you. Both give us some great shots of the table where all the figures were displayed, including an awesome scenery created by John Warden himself!

Check out our video below, and click on the iamges to be brought to the full gallery.

Let us know what you think of these awesome new cons below!

HOLY CRAP!!!! THESE ARE THE SEXIEST PIECES OF PLASTIC IVE SEEN ALL DAY! AND I SAW SOME ONE WITH PLASTIC BOOOBS!

Around 5:15ish you can see the soundwave lamppost mode its just painted to look like the scenery

I'm really not a fan of the weathering. Looks like I'll need to apply some alcohol when it's not applied on top of paint.

I like the Cons displayed much more than the bots, but I really hope that refractor is at least 2 to a case. Short packing him would be frustrating.

Why are they shooting swizzlesticks?

Now if Megatron came with a big, purple laser-effect for his fusion cannon that might make him a bit more worthwhile.

Thanks to Hasbro themselves, we have some clean stock photos of the Siege: War for Cybertron figures from New York Comic-Con 2018, which was covered here.

The big reveal here is Siege Deluxe Class Red Alert, seen utilizing Brunt's parts. This was quite unexpected, since he wasn't found anywhere today.

We also now have stock photos for the Siege toys using the tech-y background! These stock photos come from Hasbro's Facebook and Instagram.

We also have John Warden's (design manager for Transformers) design notes on these products:

-WFC VOYAGER MEGATRON was designed with Scale in mind. He is perfectly in scale with WFC VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME, and draws influence from his appearance in the 1984 Pilot Episode of the TRANSFORMERS animated series.
-His alt form is a newly designed CYBERTRONIAN Tank, but his robot form is based on his G1 appearance.
MEGATRON also includes a Sword, which is designed based on the rare 1985 Japanese Exclusive release of MEGATRON. The Sword and the classic arm-cannon can convert and merge together to form high-powered custom artillery
-WFC VOYAGER STARSCREAM is perfectly scaled to stand along other WFC characters, and is based on the original scale charts from the 1984 G1 animated series.
-STARSCREAM can convert to his classic G1 TETRAJET alt form, a version of this famous character which has never been seen before in toy form.
-STARSCREAM will feature his iconic NULL RAY cannons as accessory parts.
His Robot form is fully detailed and is based on the original model-sheet art used to create the iconic character from the 1984 animated series.
-WFC VOYAGER SOUNDWAVE is faithfully based on the original model-sheet art used to create the iconic character from the 1984 animated series.
-SOUNDWAVE features articulation and a posed-out hand that allows him to stand in his classic “EJECT” pose, with his finger on the eject button.
-MICROMASTER SPY PATROL LASERBEAK and RAVAGE (Sold Separately) can fit inside his cassette bay.
SOUNDWAVE’s alt form is a newly designed CYBERTRON Patrol Hovercraft, with a docking bay for the Cassette Bots in the back.
-Fans of the 1984 pilot episode will be pleased to know that SOUNDWAVE can be converted into a third “Easter egg” mode… a “CYBERTRONIAN Sensor Lamp”!
-WFC DELUXE REFRAKTOR is the perfect soldier to build your DECEPTICON army! This is the most screen-accurate version of this classic trooper ever created for TRANSFORMERS fans.
-REFRAKTOR comes with three accessory parts, a blaster, a battlefield shield, and a chest module. The chest module allows fans to customize their REFRAKTORS to create various versions and recreate their appearance in the G1 cartoon series.
-REFRAKTOR can convert into a CYBERTRONIAN Artillery Hovercraft vehicle, and die-hard fans can combine THREE of the same REFRAKTORS (Sold Separately) to create his classic Camera Mode, complete with Zoom Lens and Tripod!

While I am happy that Aimless is a thing, I'm quite sad he's not only a slight retool of Blowpipe but also the reveal that Blowpipe himself is just a near straight-up redeco of Firedrive. It seems all ranged Battlemasters share the same engineering.

Lame!

Anyone else notice from the display photos that Megatron and possibly Skytread/Flywheels appear to be the finished plastic instead of hand painted? Megs for certain, couldn't get a really good view of Flywheels, but he doesn't seem to have obvious hand painting like the others.

Looks like I'll finally be able to save money on this line. Think I'm only in for a few of the battle masters and deluxes, and of course Omega. As of now I have no interest in any of the announced voyagers and leaders.

So question, because I think this probably was overshadowed in people's thoughts by the actual toy reveals: Did both of the posters get checked for secret writing, or just the Megatron one because we could see some of it in the pictures?

You think we'll get a new Battletrap that goes with the style of Flywheels?

They are not showing us if voyager Shockwave can turn into anything. Pretty sure thats cause he turns into a space gun. There is clearly a handle right where it should be on that alt mode.

Yes! Brunt! i guess Full-Tilt has finally have a partner

I wonder what mold will Fasttrack be?

Woohoo! Red Alert has his red helmet! I'm totally all in now on trading in my Henkei Swipe and Alert for Siege Sideswipe and Red Alert. I'll also probably use my extra Unite Warriors Streaker as Sunstreaker in my Classics display.

I'm not too upset about Soundwave's alt mode. It at least looks alien. I do like that it can form the lamp post from "More than Meets the Eye: Part 1" as well. The only thing that upsets me is that he's got YELLOW optics. Why not red, Hasbro!? They're trying to be as G1 cartoon accurate with other characters' colors, but they drop the ball on Soundwave's eyes!

Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Megatron looks fantastic. Bought on sight! I hope the sword can stow on his back in robot mode.

Starscream looks great too. Finally, a proper "Tetrajet" form for him. More importantly, though, it's a decent VOYAGER sized robot mode seeker mold, at long last! With any luck, even if Skywarp isn't released at regular retail like Thundercracker almost certainly will, he'll see distribution as an exclusive or as part of a box set down the line.

Shockwave looks perfect. It's a shame he'll be expensive, as he's being put into the Leader class with a whole bunch of...spare arms and legs? At least the extra parts are optional and we can have a perfectly normal Voyager sized Shockwave displayed and put the extra stuff in storage. It's nice to finally have a proper Classics Shockwave at last. So long, Cyberbattalion Shockwave from Walgreens!

Reflector was an AWESOME surprise! He looks perfect! I will not rest until I have bought three of him. I like the extra touch that his robot mode can be modified to include or exclude the camera lens on his abdomen. (With that kind of attention to cartoon detail, you'd think they'd get Soundwave's eyes right, but no! *grumble, grumble, grumble*). Also, to anyone who is confused or upset that Reflector is Deluxe sized, he IS actually in scale this way. Going back to the Sunbow style guides and scale charts, Reflector is supposed to be just about as tall as one of the Autobot cars like Wheeljack or Hound.

Brunt is a nice not so surprising surprise, since I felt he'd be a natural pick for a Decepticon Deluxe "Weaponizer," and we know of Cog and likely Sixgun already for the Autobots.

Flywheels looks great. He's a perfect update of his G1 self. It's a shame he doesn't have two smaller robot modes for each individual vehicle mode, like Battletrap from Power of the Primes, but Flywheels and Battletrap will still look great together on display, and you can even mix and match their tops and bottoms, allegedly! That's still pretty good!

Whisper and Storm Cloud look great. I'll be getting ALL of the Micromasters. There's no reason not to.

As for the Decepticon "Weaponmasters," they're okay. I'll be getting all of the Weaponmasters too, if only for the laser fire and explosion effects they come with. The Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Targetmasters are far superior and will remain the definitive "Classics" versions on my Classics display shelves.

Nice surprise that they showed off the Siege decepticons.

Battle Masters: Great.
Micromasters: Great.
Skytread: Good. Triple changer or duocon? I hope triple changer.
Refraktor: Meh...
Brunt: Great.
Megatron: Fantastic!
Soundwave: Great.
Shockwave: Great.
Starscream: Robot mode is great but only from the front. Robot back and alt mode are just awful... (Am I the only one who thinks this?)
Red Alert: Good.
Confirmation of Titan class Omega Supreme: Good. I hope the tank also has a space base and rocket and it's not TOO much of a partsformer.

(There are some things money can't buy, for everything else... Never mind...)

...anyone have any idea why TFWiki claims that we're getting a Soundblaster repaint from the just-revealed Soundwave, that Red Alert is part of Wave 2, and that Countdown comes with Omega Supreme? Was all that confirmed at the panel? I know people were speculating about Omega turning into Countdown's rocket base, but I didn't think that was confirmed anywhere, and I didn't think we got anything official regarding Red Alert outside of that Brunt picture. I guess a case could be made that Red Alert has to be in Wave 2 for him to be in Brunt's advertising, but the rest of that just seems like wild claims unless I've missed something.

Nemesis Primal wrote:...anyone have any idea why TFWiki claims that we're getting a Soundblaster repaint from the just-revealed Soundwave, that Red Alert is part of Wave 2, and that Countdown comes with Omega Supreme? Was all that confirmed at the panel? I know people were speculating about Omega turning into Countdown's rocket base, but I didn't think that was confirmed anywhere, and I didn't think we got anything official regarding Red Alert outside of that Brunt picture. I guess a case could be made that Red Alert has to be in Wave 2 for him to be in Brunt's advertising, but the rest of that just seems like wild claims unless I've missed something.

Everything that we know was said on the panel but also in conversations with the various press people present. For Micro Master Countdown specifically, we have confirmation that it will fit in the tank that forms the head and upper chest of Omega Supreme from the panel stream. See here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... uzz/42179/
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As for Soundblaster, an image has been making the rounds claiming to be the redeco.


I just think it's bad lighting on Soundwave, given it's the exact same spot:




Red Alert seems speculation, unless it's from a private conversation (as I mentioned above). Hope this helps!

Is it me, or One of Shockwave's mode look like this?

frikkin AWESOME!!!!!!!
evry single fig
has me cravin
that sweet,
PLASTIC CRACK!!!

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

Albatross250 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

More likely, both this toy and that design are based on the same thing: Laserbeak's pre-Earth design from G1: