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A wfc os with g1 bot mode? It could work but I still wondering they would treat his alt the same. Though who ever said a titan omega supreme who transforms into the ark is now my hero. We get so few animated homages or references...okay maybe not as bad as some parts of the franchise but it needs more love.

Last week's SDCC 2018 revealed the Transformers War for Cybertron Siege line which is made up of G1 characters and tells the narrative of their days fithing on Cybertron before coming to earth. Only autobots were revealed, with more Autobots hinted at, but what about the Decepticons? Will it only be Autobots on the shelves for a while? Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Jelzerabbit, we are much closer to beleiving that no, we will indeed be getting Decepticons and rather early in the line.

Now that we can match the revealed toys with previous listings found on Amazon, we can look at which other characters have a similar item code and thus match them with the correct line. None of this is for certain, but as of now, it's the best we can do. The prices below are in Australian dollars and they show the (possible) line up for Battle Masters, deluxes, voyagers and the leader (Ultra Magnus, who we already know). The big news here is that we are indeed getting a voyager Megatron to go with the voyager Optimus. While his product number is closest to Optimus', the number order is never the best indicator to what wave mates would be (especially since there are often single voyagers per waves or repacks). The other voyager we see for the line is Starscream, meaning that the seekers in this line will be voyager class. This goes in line with what Hasbro had said where robot mode scale would be key and fans have often stated that Seekers should be voyager class rather than deluxe class.

The Battlemaster class listings never had names so we still do not know who we are getting aside from Firedrive and Lionizer and the only new deluxe we know is coming is Prowl, who was on the Seige Poster.

Leader Ultra Magnus (E3479, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)

Deluxe WFC-S10 Sideswipe E3520
Deluxe Cog (E3536, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Hound (E3537, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Ironhide (E3538, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Deluxe Prowl (E3540, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)

Voyager Optimus Prime (E3541, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Voyager Megatron (E3543, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Voyager Starscream (E3544, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)

Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive E3550
Race Car (E3557, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle (E3558 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Airstrike (E3560, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Spy (E3561, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rescue (E3562 , AUD 14.91, Release Date 12/01/2018)

According to the release dates for these listings it looks like we'll be getting three voyagers in Wave 1, interesting.

DaXtraLargeRobot wrote:According to the release dates for these listings it looks like we'll be getting three voyagers in Wave 1, interesting.

Take those with a big grain of salt. The Micromaster teams have the same date, however the Rescue Patrol is confirmed Wave 2 (not to mention Red Heat is a co-tool of Big Shot). The product codes combined with prices are only reliable for grouping figures in the same line and size class, not release order.

My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?

True, though, I wonder when we'll actually get to see the figures, instead of relying on amazon Australia listings.

My guess is that it will be the usual 2 voyagers per wave. The tetra jets make things a bit easier for guessing distribution.

I would think:

W1: OP and Thundercrapper
W2: Megs and Screamer
W3: Skywrap and a retool of OP
W4: Either repacks, or maybe a retool of Megs with a Conehead

Now if Shockwave is a Voyager, I would expect it to be like this:

W1: OP and Shocker
w2: Megs and Screamer
W3: Thundercrapper and Skywrap
W4: Repacks.

I really expect they are going to go all in on the final wave being a short wave with repacks, like they experimented with TR and PotP

mordhelm wrote:I really expect they are going to go all in on the final wave being a short wave with repacks, like they experimented with TR and PotP

I would assume this is the case for all 3 parts of the War for Cybertron trilogy until they show us otherwise.

Ooo. Now I’m curious what Meg’s alt mode is going to be. I’m kind of sick of tank Megatron, and we know he won’t turn into a gun. Maybe some kind of Cybertronian turret, or artillery cannon would be neat. A nice cross between his G1 alt and Galvatron’s.

I’m sure he’ll just be a tank again though. Or a hovercraft.

Bucky wrote:Ooo. Now I’m curious what Meg’s alt mode is going to be. I’m kind of sick of tank Megatron, and we know he won’t turn into a gun. Maybe some kind of Cybertronian turret, or artillery cannon would be neat. A nice cross between his G1 alt and Galvatron’s.

I’m sure he’ll just be a tank again though. Or a hovercraft.

Submarine, he'll definitely be a submarine

mordhelm wrote:My guess is that it will be the usual 2 voyagers per wave.

It can also be 1 voyager per wave (skylynx, broadside, inferno)

I would actually take that, because we never get subs.

Correct me if im wrong, but is that red alert in the poster?

Bucky wrote:I would actually take that, because we never get subs.

She was making a Sixshot joke.

william-james88 wrote:

mordhelm wrote:My guess is that it will be the usual 2 voyagers per wave.

It can also be 1 voyager per wave (skylynx, broadside, inferno)

Yeah, but none of those started out a line, such as Red Prime/Silverbolt, Sentinal Prime/Galvatron, or Grimlock/Starscream. In fact, I'm pretty sure the first 2 waves have always had 2 voyagers, so for these initial guesses, I think 2 voyagers is a pretty safe bet.

If Hasbro is taking inspiration from the debut episode, I would pray they would work to find SOME place to release these below. (Store exclusive, etc.) I'm uneasy having heard no mention of them.

I'd expect the first three as main line releases, of course. It's odd that they didn't have these Autobots setting the stage, since they're the vehicles actually featured in the episode. So far, none of the line have been featured in cybertronian mode in the G1 cartoon, right?

• Wheeljack
• Jazz
• Bumblebee

Welcoming Committee Seekers:
• Hotlink
• Bitstream
• Sunstorm

I'll be deeply upset if I don't at least see the Autobots above and the three main seekers. The welcoming committee would be icing on the cake, though, and a definite buy as an exclusive.

Bucky wrote:I’m sure he’ll just be a tank again though. Or a hovercraft.

The smart money would be on him being a cybertronian tank of some kind.

Something like this I would guess:

If we're getting a Cybertronian tank mold (and it seem most likely for Megatron) it better be reused for at least one more character. Because we need more space tanks, damn it!

I wouldn't mind them doing what they did with Ultra Magnus and giving a G1 robot mode a non-G1 alt mode. So perhaps a homage to Armada Megatron's Beetle Tank of Death mode?

I'm personally hoping for a warpath figure, the line's gimmick seems to basically be turning your figures into walking tanks and warpath is a literal walking tank

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o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?

Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.

Thanks JelZe!

I’m really looking forward to more Cybertron forms for my collection, and that Leader class Ultra Magnus is a great figure. I generally skip the larger scale figures (skipped the PotP leaders) when I have a better figure in my collection or it’s a character I don’t care for. That Ultra Magnus stands out and would be a nice addition. I tend to enjoy the smaller figures, so will most likely be buying the rest of the line.

I am still hoping PotP Novastar isn’t too hard to find online. I have the Amazon deluxes preordered, and Wreckgar preordered (Takara), but missed out on the BBTS Takara Novastar preorder. Aside from that, I’m ready for a new line, so bring on the War on Cybertron I think Cog and some of the other “weapon” bots will be interesting. Nice to see some preliminary dates, too.

Burn wrote:

o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?

Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.

The Brand Team with John Warden has stated in an interview that they can't say anything about plans for more Titans just yet. They did say that hypothetically, Omega Supreme would be Devastator's size, or slightly bigger.

In that same interview it's said that CW-type Combiners are not completely off the table, and that PotP was cut short because Hasbro was in a hurry to get the new trilogy started.

MECHdirge wrote:but missed out on the BBTS Takara Novastar preorder

Check back with BBTS occasionally, those pre-order "OOS" will usually change, especially when they get the item in, they usually have more than they pre-ordered, plus the pre-order for Deluxe wave 4 and Nova Star individually haven't even been made available yet, those are the ones you'll have to be quick with, if you fear it wont be at a local B&M. I bet a ton of people are going to cancel their Novastar if/when the becomes available, since its the same toy now, just less expensive

Also thanks Burn for the bump post on my previous question , and JelZe GoldRabbit for responding