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william-james88 wrote:

That's some mighty fine pics of a mighty fine bot. Not making saying no any easier.

ZeroWolf wrote:

WiseMan wrote:I was interested. I don't have this character or mold.

But after seeing these pics, the tetrajet mode looks about as aerodynamic as my car keys. It's a jet with a giant block of legs tacked on underneath it.

Easy pass.

Do you need to be aerodynamic in space?

In space no one can hear your drag, but they can sure as **** see your knees.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:My main question is what stand is that in the pictures? It looks great for Decepticons.

Bumb. Anyone?

Looks a lot like this, only purple.

Sabrblade wrote:

mentre83 wrote:I kind of hate its smirking face.

But it fits his "devil may care" attitude so much better than the blank face Starscream got.

If anything, both Starscream and Red Wing should have the smirking face while Thundercracker should have gotten the blank face.

I actually prefer Screamer to have the blank face for serious poses. One of the drawbacks to bots with facial expressions is you're stuck with that expression and it may not fit all situations. So in my case I rather Starscream look all business with his thugs (that actually do the dirty work) having the mischievous looks.

The thing is, G1 Starscream has an ego big enough to bludgeon Fort Max with, so he usually is smirking. That or making an "Oh slag I'm gonna die" face. So the smirk head suits him a LOT more than it does the much more dour and usually neutral/frowning Thundercracker.

Sabrblade wrote:

mentre83 wrote:I kind of hate its smirking face.

But it fits his "devil may care" attitude so much better than the blank face Starscream got.

If anything, both Starscream and Red Wing should have the smirking face while Thundercracker should have gotten the blank face.

Agreed. I've said it at least twice before, I think HasTak accidentally swapped Screamer and Thundercracker's headsculpts. I had originally been pondering just getting TC since I already had PotP Screamer, but now I want to get Screamer too.

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Are you excited for another obscure Seeker release, or will you be passing this altogether? Tell us in the discussion below.

Hard pass as I'm already going be $90 $110 in on Siege Seekers.

I will say that is one sharp ass deco though and would jump if it happens to sell poorly and hits the e-discount bins (which is where all the select figures have fallen on my radar so far).


EDIT: oops, forgot about Smokescreen - that dude's on lock down

Smokescreen isn't a Seeker

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

carytheone wrote:...would jump if it happens to sell poorly and hits the e-discount bins (which is where all the select figures have fallen on my radar so far).


EDIT: oops, forgot about Smokescreen - that dude's on lock down

Smokescreen isn't a Seeker

Sure isn't, point?

Sabrblade wrote:

mentre83 wrote:I kind of hate its smirking face.

But it fits his "devil may care" attitude so much better than the blank face Starscream got.

If anything, both Starscream and Red Wing should have the smirking face while Thundercracker should have gotten the blank face.

Hence why a lot of fans are just planning to do a head swap between Starscream and Thundercracker. A few people are theorizing that the faces were originally supposed to be distributed like that, but something (as it often does) got confused during production.

Wolfman Jake wrote:...a lot of fans are just planning to do a head swap between Starscream and Thundercracker. A few people are theorizing that the faces were originally supposed to be distributed like that, but something (as it often does) got confused during production.

I doubt it was a mix up, wouldn't the first renders have had swapped faces?


https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ycc/42170/

I just took a look at the back of Starscream's head. Looks like it's going be a bear to swap though. The ball looks pretty big with the possibility of breaking the stem or part of the head. Well good luck and may the plastic gods be on whomever's side

carytheone wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:...a lot of fans are just planning to do a head swap between Starscream and Thundercracker. A few people are theorizing that the faces were originally supposed to be distributed like that, but something (as it often does) got confused during production.

I doubt it was a mix up, wouldn't the first renders have had swapped faces?


https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ycc/42170/

I just took a look at the back of Starscream's head. Looks like it's going be a bear to swap though. The ball looks pretty big with the possibility of breaking the stem or part of the head. Well good luck and may the plastic gods be on whomever's side

After examining my Starscream, I abandoned the idea. Unless somebody does a thread on how they do/did it.

sol magnus wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:...a lot of fans are just planning to do a head swap between Starscream and Thundercracker. A few people are theorizing that the faces were originally supposed to be distributed like that, but something (as it often does) got confused during production.

I doubt it was a mix up, wouldn't the first renders have had swapped faces?

[img]IceScream.png[/img]
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ycc/42170/

I just took a look at the back of Starscream's head. Looks like it's going be a bear to swap though. The ball looks pretty big with the possibility of breaking the stem or part of the head. Well good luck and may the plastic gods be on whomever's side

After examining my Starscream, I abandoned the idea. Unless somebody does a thread on how they do/did it.

It's not on my radar, but the only safe option seems to be taking the torso apart (if that is even possible). I'm too lazy to transform mine to check for screws. He does have screws in his "butt flaps" though.

carytheone wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:...a lot of fans are just planning to do a head swap between Starscream and Thundercracker. A few people are theorizing that the faces were originally supposed to be distributed like that, but something (as it often does) got confused during production.

I doubt it was a mix up, wouldn't the first renders have had swapped faces?

[img]IceScream.png[/img]
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ycc/42170/

I just took a look at the back of Starscream's head. Looks like it's going be a bear to swap though. The ball looks pretty big with the possibility of breaking the stem or part of the head. Well good luck and may the plastic gods be on whomever's side

After examining my Starscream, I abandoned the idea. Unless somebody does a thread on how they do/did it.

It's not on my radar, but the only safe option seems to be taking the torso apart (if that is even possible). I'm too lazy to transform mine to check for screws. He does have screws in his "butt flaps" though.

I used to reassemble G1 Megatrons from parts. I don't want any parts of this Starscream.

The render having the neutral head doesn't rule out wires getting crossed, IMO. To me, it suggests that the assembled figure the render was modeled off of used the wrong head and/or the render used the wrong head and the production toys followed suit because they used the render as a reference. Or maybe both were going off the same faulty note as to which head was whose.

It's definitely possible for renders to use the wrong head - just look at PotP Hun-Gurrr and how two of his on-package renders have the head blanked out because they used the Snaptrap/Turtler headsculpt instead (I mean, what else could it be?).

carytheone wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

carytheone wrote:...would jump if it happens to sell poorly and hits the e-discount bins (which is where all the select figures have fallen on my radar so far).


EDIT: oops, forgot about Smokescreen - that dude's on lock down

Smokescreen isn't a Seeker

Sure isn't, point?

I was looking more at this part:

carytheone wrote:Hard pass as I'm already going be $90 $110 in on Siege Seekers.

The strikethrough and the edit to add Smokescreen made it look to me like you were adding his price to the total. I guess I was wrong


EDIT: Regarding swapping the heads: What about carefully prying the front of the head away from the back?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The render having the neutral head doesn't rule out wires getting crossed, IMO. To me, it suggests that the assembled figure the render was modeled off of used the wrong head and/or the render used the wrong head and the production toys followed suit because they used the render as a reference. Or maybe both were going off the same faulty note as to which head was whose.

It's definitely possible for renders to use the wrong head - just look at PotP Hun-Gurrr and how two of his on-package renders have the head blanked out because they used the Snaptrap/Turtler headsculpt instead (I mean, what else could it be?).

carytheone wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

carytheone wrote:...would jump if it happens to sell poorly and hits the e-discount bins (which is where all the select figures have fallen on my radar so far).


EDIT: oops, forgot about Smokescreen - that dude's on lock down

Smokescreen isn't a Seeker

Sure isn't, point?

I was looking more at this part:

carytheone wrote:Hard pass as I'm already going be $90 $110 in on Siege Seekers.

The strikethrough and the edit to add Smokescreen made it look to me like you were adding his price to the total. I guess I was wrong


EDIT: Regarding swapping the heads: What about carefully prying the front of the head away from the back?

I thought he meant $110 for the Seeker trio, since Skywarp will be $50 ($30+$30+$50=$110)

About swapping the head, so far only one guy has posted a picture on Reddit about how he succeeded in removing Screamer's head, but knowing Reddit, I will just have to keep digging to find that

If you can't swap it, I don't really care honestly. I didn't care about my ROTF Leader Prime's eyes being green, and I am not about to care about who has the smirk. The mold is great, fun, and has way too many positives for me to care about one feature on its face.

Damnation HasTak enough with the visual teasing already. I think you have made your point on what an awesome figure this is!

The decorating paint splodges... Erm.. Battle wear looks better on him than thundercracker. Would like to pick him up if possible but not committed to the tetra jets set yet.

Is there something wrong with the tetra jets set or are you just not crazy about that set in general?

Anyone wonder if we'll see the almost-mandatory black repaint of Optimus Prime for Siege/Select? I'd absolutely love to have a Nemesis Prime who match the mold of my main Optimus Prime, if possible. Well, granted I really regret not getting the Legends Black Convoy to go against my TR Triple-changer Prime.

Skritz wrote:Anyone wonder if we'll see the almost-mandatory black repaint of Optimus Prime for Siege/Select?

I'd love to see one and normally I'd assume it'd be a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive. Now if one does pop up it's highly likely to be available via Hasbro Pulse. I think the real question isn't if, but how much

Skritz wrote:Anyone wonder if we'll see the almost-mandatory black repaint of Optimus Prime for Siege/Select? I'd absolutely love to have a Nemesis Prime who match the mold of my main Optimus Prime, if possible. Well, granted I really regret not getting the Legends Black Convoy to go against my TR Triple-changer Prime.

Black Convoy's still available on TFSource.

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:Anyone wonder if we'll see the almost-mandatory black repaint of Optimus Prime for Siege/Select? I'd absolutely love to have a Nemesis Prime who match the mold of my main Optimus Prime, if possible. Well, granted I really regret not getting the Legends Black Convoy to go against my TR Triple-changer Prime.

Black Convoy's still available on TFSource.

I got mine on mandarake, wasnt that expensive. I highly recomend the figure.

Granberry wrote:Is there something wrong with the tetra jets set or are you just not crazy about that set in general?

I know you weren't asking me, but I wanted to jump on this question real quick:

I personally am not huge on it, it isn't very impressive to me, so I am not collecting the set. But Red Wing looks really good, and it will be nice to get a toy of a character that hasn't had one yet, and if he's the only one I get, he'll be unique in mold too

Skritz wrote:Anyone wonder if we'll see the almost-mandatory black repaint of Optimus Prime for Siege/Select? I'd absolutely love to have a Nemesis Prime who match the mold of my main Optimus Prime, if possible. Well, granted I really regret not getting the Legends Black Convoy to go against my TR Triple-changer Prime.

My money is on Black/Nemesis Convoy from this year's Winterfest, that seems to be where Takara has put him in the past. I just don't know if they'll do the voyager or the Galaxy Leader.... I'd be happy with either one tbh. Though the thought of them doing voyager prime's axe blade in clear red plastic makes me excited.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:Anyone wonder if we'll see the almost-mandatory black repaint of Optimus Prime for Siege/Select? I'd absolutely love to have a Nemesis Prime who match the mold of my main Optimus Prime, if possible. Well, granted I really regret not getting the Legends Black Convoy to go against my TR Triple-changer Prime.

Black Convoy's still available on TFSource.

I got mine on mandarake, wasnt that expensive. I highly recomend the figure.

Which black convoy? The Amazon leader POTP one? Or the.... Laser/Scourge POTP mold?


edit:nvm… should have finished the sentence lol. I really do recommend that mold though... Hell it got me to buy Ruination/Baldigus to go with him.

Honestly I'd still prefer the original 2000/2001 version for Black Covoy/RiD Scourge. It's not like the original Laser Optimus Prime mold was a brick, after all.

Since the Legends line is over, I wonder if they might do Grand Maximus' Cog in this line.

Regarding people's price point concern over Turtler/Snaptrap, I wouldn't be too worried about it causing his cancellation. Given the exclusive nature of the series hey could sell him at his own specialty price point (as was done with TR Arcee, Repugnus, and Grotusque). Or they could include a (hopefully variable or universal) gun mode stand and bring him up to the Leader price point.

....You know, it just figures that the Seacons of all teams would end up in the exclusives line, doesn't it?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly I'd still prefer the original 2000/2001 version for Black Covoy/RiD Scourge. It's not like the original Laser Optimus Prime mold was a brick, after all.

Oh, definitely. I have the original Car Robots Black Convoy made from the G2 mold, the Fun Pub TFSS Scourge made from the Reveal the Shield Deluxe class mold, and the Takara Legend Black Convoy made from the Titans Return Voyager class mold, and of all three the original G2 mold is hands down the single greatest version of the figure. After all these years, that toy is still amazing and blows all modern iterations of it far and away out of the water.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:....You know, it just figures that the Seacons of all teams would end up in the exclusives line, doesn't it?

And that's if we do get more than just Turtler, since it's still pretty weird for Takara to advertise a combinable Combiner component by itself instead of with its whole team. If this were Hasbro, sure, they have no problem showing off one member But Takara? That is strange for them.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly I'd still prefer the original 2000/2001 version for Black Covoy/RiD Scourge. It's not like the original Laser Optimus Prime mold was a brick, after all.

Oh, definitely. I have the original Car Robots Black Convoy made from the G2 mold, the Fun Pub TFSS Scourge made from the Reveal the Shield Deluxe class mold, and the Takara Legend Black Convoy made from the Titans Return Voyager class mold, and of all three the original G2 mold is hands down the single greatest version of the figure. After all these years, that toy is still amazing and blows all modern iterations of it far and away out of the water.

And it's the version that RiD Optimus Prime can't just walk all over.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:....You know, it just figures that the Seacons of all teams would end up in the exclusives line, doesn't it?

And that's if we do get more than just Turtler, since it's still pretty weird for Takara to advertise a combinable Combiner component by itself instead of with its whole team. If this were Hasbro, sure, they have no problem showing off one member But Takara? That is strange for them.

They might be holding off on that until they have something to show of the other members, who might be taking longer in development. It could also be a question of available space in the magazine.
I personally think we'll be getting the full team. After all, Rippersnapper could be turned into Overbite and possibly also Gulf/Skalor.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly I'd still prefer the original 2000/2001 version for Black Covoy/RiD Scourge. It's not like the original Laser Optimus Prime mold was a brick, after all.

Oh, definitely. I have the original Car Robots Black Convoy made from the G2 mold, the Fun Pub TFSS Scourge made from the Reveal the Shield Deluxe class mold, and the Takara Legend Black Convoy made from the Titans Return Voyager class mold, and of all three the original G2 mold is hands down the single greatest version of the figure. After all these years, that toy is still amazing and blows all modern iterations of it far and away out of the water.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:....You know, it just figures that the Seacons of all teams would end up in the exclusives line, doesn't it?

And that's if we do get more than just Turtler, since it's still pretty weird for Takara to advertise a combinable Combiner component by itself instead of with its whole team. If this were Hasbro, sure, they have no problem showing off one member But Takara? That is strange for them.

pretty sure they showed off computicon one by one

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:....You know, it just figures that the Seacons of all teams would end up in the exclusives line, doesn't it?

And that's if we do get more than just Turtler, since it's still pretty weird for Takara to advertise a combinable Combiner component by itself instead of with its whole team. If this were Hasbro, sure, they have no problem showing off one member But Takara? That is strange for them.

They might be holding off on that until they have something to show of the other members, who might be taking longer in development. It could also be a question of available space in the magazine.
I personally think we'll be getting the full team. After all, Rippersnapper could be turned into Overbite and possibly also Gulf/Skalor.

Historically-speaking, they'd usually hold off on showing any members until all of them were presentable so that they could show all of them at once from the get go.

I doubt it was a matter of magazine space, since the first glimpse we got of Turtler (his silhouette) was shown online.