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Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:58 pm**

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Dang, those look nice!

I really like Lobclaw, he is my favorite of the set so far, though Tentakill is by far the most anticipated figure for me. I'm debating having Tentakill just stand separate from the combiner as his own individual guy, i like him that much.

I also can't wait to get Tentakill so I can recreate my G1 Betatron that Burn helped me create

I'm really looking forward to seeing Tentakill as well, but more so out of curiosity than anything else. The reason being because I figure that if Tentakill looks feminine (i.e., like Scylla) Then I think that would serve as strong evidence for a God Neptune redeco.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:12 pm**

Wireless_Phantom wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Dang, those look nice!

I really like Lobclaw, he is my favorite of the set so far, though Tentakill is by far the most anticipated figure for me. I'm debating having Tentakill just stand separate from the combiner as his own individual guy, i like him that much.

I also can't wait to get Tentakill so I can recreate my G1 Betatron that Burn helped me create

I'm really looking forward to seeing Tentakill as well, but more so out of curiosity than anything else. The reason being because I figure that if Tentakill looks feminine (i.e., like Scylla) Then I think that would serve as strong evidence for a God Neptune redeco.

I am cheering hard for a God Neptune repaint. That is a figure i want badly!

Also, because he came to work last week, have some Ricochet!

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:46 pm**

I just realized something about the Seacons' combined mode hands: They have individually articulated fingers! Granted, it's not that drastic, but still. It's nice to see that on combiner hands

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:37 pm**

Lobclaw and Kraken are up for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse. Pre-order due by end of September.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... iranacon-3

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... iranacon-4

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:39 pm**

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:39 pm**

I've got my pre-orders in. I'm glad I held out on my pre-ordering Zetar, as now I get free shipping for him as well!

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:45 pm**

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I've got my pre-orders in. I'm glad I held out on my pre-ordering Zetar, as now I get free shipping for him as well!

I've got Hasbro Pulse Premium through somewhere in February 2020, so I get free shipping on anything until then. These 2 will be interesting in that the checkout still let me choose my free shipping with Pulse Premium, but the items aren't expected to ship until just after it expires. I wonder if they are basing things off when you order instead of when they ship? I guess I'll have to wait and see with the final 2 Seacons.

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:31 pm**

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Wireless_Phantom wrote:I've got my pre-orders in. I'm glad I held out on my pre-ordering Zetar, as now I get free shipping for him as well!

I've got Hasbro Pulse Premium through somewhere in February 2020, so I get free shipping on anything until then. These 2 will be interesting in that the checkout still let me choose my free shipping with Pulse Premium, but the items aren't expected to ship until just after it expires. I wonder if they are basing things off when you order instead of when they ship? I guess I'll have to wait and see with the final 2 Seacons.

I'm just placing all my pre-orders on TFsource to avoid the risk of having to pay for shipping on all these guys. and the prices about equal out since TFsource doesn't have taxes

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:17 pm**

Thanks to Seibertronians TF-fan kev777 and Kamalethar, we have been alerted to a listing on Hasbro Pulse for the next two Seacons to be released, Kraken and Lobclaw! This marks the first U.S. listing for these figures, but we'll be sure to update you when our sponsors have their listings up as well.

For those of you who may not be familiar with the names for these two figures, Kraken and Lobclaw are the Japanese names for Seawing and Nautilator, respectively. The Seacons only showed up in a few issues of the Marvel comic, and not at all in the cartoon, but it was a different story in Japan. They were featured in the Transformers Super God Masterforce cartoon and manga, as were many figures released in 1988, but given different names. The Seacons, in particular, were all essentially mindless drones that attacked en masse, commanded by Turtler (Snap Trap). They could combine with him to form King Poseidon. So because these Seacons are a Takara initiated project, they'll be released with Japanese names, instructions and packaging, but due to Hasbro and Takara's brand unification, they will still be sold in the U.S.

History lesson aside, please click on either figure's picture to be taken to Hasbro Pulse, where you can pre preorder these two, and be two steps closer to completing your Piranacon King Poseidon combiner! Of note, they are only available to order on Pulse until September 29th, so only a little over three weeks! Let us know below if you plan on picking either of these two up, and we'll see you in the forums!

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:01 pm**

I don't think Pulse's listing is saying that you have until the 29th? It's the same phrasing used for Turtler and Gulf and they're still up for pre-order. Of course, I haven't tried to pre-order them as of yet due to other financial obligations, so I can't say firsthand, but still

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:38 pm**

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I don't think Pulse's listing is saying that you have until the 29th? It's the same phrasing used for Turtler and Gulf and they're still up for pre-order. Of course, I haven't tried to pre-order them as of yet due to other financial obligations, so I can't say firsthand, but still

No, the limit is being enforced. If you add Gulf and Turtler to your cart and try to check out you'll be told they're sold out and can't be ordered.

Deadput wrote:Sorry to bring this up but weren't the last figures of Rattrap, Rhinox, and Waspinator from thrilling 30 heavy shelfwarmers that didn't sell well?

They definitely didn't in my area. While I saw Rattrap a few times he never shelf warmed. Rhinox I saw a few times, but he didn't shelf warm like his wavemate Doubledealer. Waspinator's wave for many people only saw limited release if at all. It didn't show up in my area at any of the local stores until several months later (just before Combiner Wars) when I found a random Waspinator at Kmart. All of Thrilling Thirty wasn't particularly well distributed, the only Deluxe waves I can remember really being well stocked was 8 (Minicons, Armada Starscream, FoC Skywarp, and Scoop) and 9 (Rattrap and Tankor). The rest was a struggle and I missed many of them.

I also remember some people saying that some other beast war figures from earlier generations type lines like Cheetor and Dinobot weren't hot sellers either.

To be fair, those weren't very hot figures period. Cheetor's arms are an absolute mess and Dinobot had a ridiculous G2-esque deco of sickly yellow and purple for no real reason other than to possibly give Takara Tomy the more accurate version.

Emerje

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:40 pm**

Emerje wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I don't think Pulse's listing is saying that you have until the 29th? It's the same phrasing used for Turtler and Gulf and they're still up for pre-order. Of course, I haven't tried to pre-order them as of yet due to other financial obligations, so I can't say firsthand, but still

No, the limit is being enforced. If you add Gulf and Turtler to your cart and try to check out you'll be told they're sold out and can't be ordered.

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Emerje

That sucks... Well, guess I'll have to order them from a different site then. Bummer

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:39 am**

Yeah, I had tried to order Gulf and Turtler the other day, and realized that I was a few days too late. So I just put in a preorder at TFSource instead. Going to jump on these two from Pulse now, while I can.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:28 am**

Oh yeah, I just remembered that Hasbro has Star Convoy delayed until November now. Takara Tomy Mall still has it listed for late September so i don't know why the delay from Hasbro.

Emerje

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:09 am**

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I've got my pre-orders in. I'm glad I held out on my pre-ordering Zetar, as now I get free shipping for him as well!

I wanted to do the exact same thing. My only question is...will Pulse ship these out individually when released, or will they wait until the Seacons come out, then ship them all at once? Every time I go to Pulse, I get a chat window I have to immediately ignore, and now the one time I have a legit question, the chat window isn't coming up... :BANG_HEAD:

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:36 am**

I might have been tempted - but these things are just so dang expensive. Why are these refurbished CW/PoTP retreads so horribly overpriced? The paint is good, but it's not THAT good...

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:06 am**

DeathReviews wrote:I might have been tempted - but these things are just so dang expensive. Why are these refurbished CW/PoTP retreads so horribly overpriced? The paint is good, but it's not THAT good...

Come now Death...

, I know you reviewed at least ONE Unite Warriors set.... Although this is not branded as such, it is basically the same idea, Japanese Exclusivity however with the nice caveat that others are able to order them directly through Pulse and not have to pay import prices. It's not ideal, but it could be worse. $230-240 is hard to swallow, but I did pay near that price for some of the UW sets (so glad I'm not trying to get them NOW), and fans who purchased Predacus, or the TFCC Combiners ended up paying far more.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:38 am**

DeathReviews wrote:I might have been tempted - but these things are just so dang expensive. Why are these refurbished CW/PoTP retreads so horribly overpriced? The paint is good, but it's not THAT good...

One word: Takara

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:12 am**

I think if they they sold it as a set, the pieces would have been cheaper overall, especially when it almost appears as if we'll be getting all of the preordered before they first ones ship.

What is the minimum for free shipping from Pulse? I thought it was $35, but when I tried to order Nightbird and powerdasher drill head guy, It wanted to charge me, so I added apeface for free shipping.

I'm assuming they are shipping items out as they come in stock because I ordered one Constructicon Studio series and Thundercracker from siege, and I already received the constructicon.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:04 pm**

Emerje wrote:
Deadput wrote:Sorry to bring this up but weren't the last figures of Rattrap, Rhinox, and Waspinator from thrilling 30 heavy shelfwarmers that didn't sell well?

They definitely didn't in my area. While I saw Rattrap a few times he never shelf warmed. Rhinox I saw a few times, but he didn't shelf warm like his wavemate Doubledealer. Waspinator's wave for many people only saw limited release if at all. It didn't show up in my area at any of the local stores until several months later (just before Combiner Wars) when I found a random Waspinator at Kmart. All of Thrilling Thirty wasn't particularly well distributed, the only Deluxe waves I can remember really being well stocked was 8 (Minicons, Armada Starscream, FoC Skywarp, and Scoop) and 9 (Rattrap and Tankor). The rest was a struggle and I missed many of them.
Emerje

The same happened in Canada. Rhinox was easy to find (I came late to the game and was still able to get him) but Rattrap was a blink and you'll miss it (at Target no less, which was a blink and you'll miss it store in Canada :lol:

). And Waspinator was released twice, so they made more than others and even then, he didn't stick around for longer than he should. I remember Seeing Nightbeat more.

And if anyone wants an indication at how well Beast Wars could sell, look at the MPs. Dinobot and Megatron were crazy expensive and still sold out.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:09 pm**

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:I might have been tempted - but these things are just so dang expensive. Why are these refurbished CW/PoTP retreads so horribly overpriced? The paint is good, but it's not THAT good...

One word: Takara

Star Convoy and the Seacons are TakaraTomy-initiated projects, and their standardized prices have always been a bit higher than Hasbro's when converted. However, their Selects range now has a premium markup of roughly 1,000 Yen for Deluxes, and 2,000-2,500 Yen for larger Classes, compared to Hasbro's $5 give or take. Don't blame this on the newly-tooled parts, Nightbird and Zetar which use existing alternate heads (I assume) are sold at the same price.

Hasbro taking the original TakaraTomy price points is a hard pill to swallow, I agree, but it is fair business-wise. Also, is this kind of a reversal of the "USA Edition" method, or a revival of Hasbrocollectors.com one? :lol:

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:16 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Deadput wrote:Sorry to bring this up but weren't the last figures of Rattrap, Rhinox, and Waspinator from thrilling 30 heavy shelfwarmers that didn't sell well?

They definitely didn't in my area. While I saw Rattrap a few times he never shelf warmed. Rhinox I saw a few times, but he didn't shelf warm like his wavemate Doubledealer. Waspinator's wave for many people only saw limited release if at all. It didn't show up in my area at any of the local stores until several months later (just before Combiner Wars) when I found a random Waspinator at Kmart. All of Thrilling Thirty wasn't particularly well distributed, the only Deluxe waves I can remember really being well stocked was 8 (Minicons, Armada Starscream, FoC Skywarp, and Scoop) and 9 (Rattrap and Tankor). The rest was a struggle and I missed many of them.
Emerje

The same happened in Canada. Rhinox was easy to find (I came late to the game and was still able to get him) but Rattrap was a blink and you'll miss it (at Target no less, which was a blink and you'll miss it store in Canada ). And Waspinator was released twice, so they made more than others and even then, he didn't stick around for longer than he should. I remember Seeing Nightbeat more.

And if anyone wants an indication at how well Beast Wars could sell, look at the MPs. Dinobot and Megatron were crazy expensive and still sold out.

BW got a 15th anniversary line, and some nods in T30, I'm sure it will have a resurgence again soon. But quite literally the LAST T30 figure I saw, was a poor old beat-up package Rattrap that sat at a local WM forever, as CW toys came and went, this poor guy just stayed on the shelves, not sure whatever happened to it. Kind of like CW Leader Skywap that eventually had to go down to $10 almost two years after its release to finally be gone.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:19 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Also, is this kind of a reversal of the "USA Edition" method, or a revival of Hasbrocollectors.com one?

Well, its kind of fair when you consider that now 100% of Takara's retail Transformers output are USA editions.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:19 pm**

The next 2 Seacons are now available for preorder on TF Source. Already put them in my stack.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:42 pm**

o.supreme wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:I might have been tempted - but these things are just so dang expensive. Why are these refurbished CW/PoTP retreads so horribly overpriced? The paint is good, but it's not THAT good...

Come now Death... , I know you reviewed at least ONE Unite Warriors set.... Although this is not branded as such, it is basically the same idea, Japanese Exclusivity however with the nice caveat that others are able to order them directly through Pulse and not have to pay import prices. It's not ideal, but it could be worse. $230-240 is hard to swallow, but I did pay near that price for some of the UW sets (so glad I'm not trying to get them NOW), and fans who purchased Predacus, or the TFCC Combiners ended up paying far more.

The Unite Warriors Baldigus set, I think it was. The Seacons will be almost $230 in total. The Baldigus set was about $170. Besides, I thought the whole point of bringing Takara and Hasbro under the same umbrella was to REDUCE the cost of these sets...

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