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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:20 am
by Amelie
I'll admit it - I'm starting to come around to this. I passed on the original MP Bumblebee as I felt they could have done better, but seeing the V2 isn't convincing me we're going to see much improvement past this. Luckily I don't spend lots of time looking at the back of my toys (unless its Moonracer, meow), so maybe I can swallow this down.

Now I just need to get the Exosuit Spike from the original MP.... :HEADHURTS:

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:39 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Amelie wrote:I'll admit it - I'm starting to come around to this. I passed on the original MP Bumblebee as I felt they could have done better, but seeing the V2 isn't convincing me we're going to see much improvement past this. Luckily I don't spend lots of time looking at the back of my toys (unless its Moonracer, meow), so maybe I can swallow this down.

Now I just need to get the Exosuit Spike from the original MP.... :HEADHURTS:


MP Bumblebee is 59.99 on BBTS, and comes with the Spike figure. A better toy, with the accessory you want, for half the price. Just saying... :lol:

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:14 am
by ZeroWolf
Shipping to the UK may add to that price mind ;)

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:50 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
ZeroWolf wrote:Shipping to the UK may add to that price mind ;)

True, and I do apologize for missing that. Although MP-45 would probably have shipping costs too and therefore still be more expensive. :P

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:07 am
by ZeroWolf
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Shipping to the UK may add to that price mind ;)

True, and I do apologize for missing that. Although MP-45 would probably have shipping costs too and therefore still be more expensive. :P

Don't worry :lol: mps are always expensive here :P

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:16 pm
by william-james88
ZeroWolf wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Shipping to the UK may add to that price mind ;)

True, and I do apologize for missing that. Although MP-45 would probably have shipping costs too and therefore still be more expensive. :P

Don't worry :lol: mps are always expensive here :P

Here's an authentic listing on e-bay https://www.ebay.ca/itm/TAKARA-TOMY-aut ... Sw3BJcRCGB

Of course that's what the listing says but it's up to you if that's enough.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:32 pm
by -Kanrabat-
I was about to post some Mandrake listings of the original MP Bee.
Look like that "shelfwarmer" is getting sold out all over the place. Normal because MP-45 is so horrible looking and so expensive, it renewed the interest in the original. Amazing because when a newer version of a MP come out, the old one drop in price and is getting sold everywhere. But this time, the new Bee is INCREASING the demand for the old one.

How ironic.

Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:20 pm
by Emperor Omega
Wolfman Jake wrote:
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Do we have any clue as to how big MP45 is compared to MP21?

I've searched around, but I can't find any proper comparison pics.

Going by scale estimation (Seeing MP21 next to Wheeljack & MP45 next to the cartoon accurate version), it seems MP45 is about an inch taller than MP21.

What do you guys think?

Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:00 am
by carytheone
Emperor Omega wrote:Do we have any clue as to how big MP45 is compared to MP21?

I've searched around, but I can't find any proper comparison pics.

Going by scale estimation (Seeing MP21 next to Wheeljack & MP45 next to the cartoon accurate version), it seems MP45 is about an inch taller than MP21.

What do you guys think?
I'm guess about the same height in bot mode and slightly shorter in alt mode.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:38 pm
by EVS090374
Look nice to get

Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:10 pm
by carytheone
carytheone wrote:
Emperor Omega wrote:Do we have any clue as to how big MP45 is compared to MP21?

I've searched around, but I can't find any proper comparison pics.

Going by scale estimation (Seeing MP21 next to Wheeljack & MP45 next to the cartoon accurate version), it seems MP45 is about an inch taller than MP21.

What do you guys think?
I'm guess about the same height in bot mode and slightly shorter in alt mode.
Spotted this over at the competition's website.



Well that answers that.

Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:52 am
by Cyberpath
carytheone wrote:Spotted this over at the competition's website.



Well that answers that.


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Yikes. What's the point of a smaller chest if it's dwarfed by the back?


Rare images such as below make it a little tempting to get, but then I remind myself how he looks like from any other angle.

ImageSource: @GENgoraw

Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:01 pm
by Emperor Omega
carytheone wrote:

Well that answers that.


Huh. I'm actually glad I was wrong. :D

Size difference doesn't look too drastic.

I wonder if they'll do a comparison video soon for MP10 & MP44.

Sadly, the closest thing I have (& probably ever will have) to MP10 is the Leader Class Optimus from 'Power of the Primes'. :(

Check out this MP-45 Bumblebee designer video with comparisons to the original

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:55 pm
by Emerje
Thanks to a tip from our own Seibertronian carytheone we've got an interesting video produced by Takara Tomy . The video features a member of the design team identified as Kenta Wakizawa discussing some of the features of MP-45 Bumblebee. While it's mostly stuff we're well aware of (cartoon accuracy in bot mode with a Choro-Q inspired car mode) it does give an idea of just how easy it is to get the figure into poses, partly in thanks to some ridiculous ankle tilts.

Not only that, but the figure is also heavily compared to the original MP-21 Bumblebee. We now see that not only if MP-45 skinnier than MP-21 (at the cost of some crazy back and feet kibble), but also a little taller. We also get to see just how different the shades of yellow are between the two figures.

The original video has been geoblocked to be Japan-only, but was quickly mirrored by YouTuber Minhduc Pham and can be viewed below! You can turn on closed captioning and enable translation settings in the video to get English subtitles, but don't expect them to make a great deal of sense.



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It should be pointed out that the MP-45 used in this video is still a hand painted prototype and reflects the paint chips and poorly locking parts that come with it. So does this video change your mind one way or the other? Sound off in the Energon Pub forums below and let us know!

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:09 am
by Lore Keeper
Nope, I still prefer the toy/cartoon hybrid aesthetic of the older masterpieces. Plus, that kibble is just horrendous. Dude can't even put his feet together! [-(

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:14 am
by Ultra Markus
you would think that having a cartoonish vehicle mode it would be easier to be less kibbly than this

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:26 am
by mentre83
I still think that this particular MP toy was unnecessary. It doesn't really improve the previous version, especially when it comes to kibble parts.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:46 am
by blackeyedprime
Just the feet I'm not liking on the new MP, Daniel or cassettes would have to stand in front of him to hide them.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:33 am
by Alpha Dominus
The great thing about those gnarly feet and chin is that it saves me from spending my hard-earned cash. ;)^

Re: Check out this MP-45 Bumblebee designer video with comparisons to the original

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:29 am
by william-james88
Emerje wrote:
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:SICK: :SICK: :SICK:

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:52 am
by carytheone
I know this has been discussed, but I still don't get the new head sculpt.

ATaleOfTwoHeads.jpg

Just, what happened?

kennybee-mccormick.jpg

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:56 am
by william-james88
I think the headsculpt is more show accurate. Bee did have a more circular head than the previous MP.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:59 am
by Sabrblade
Going by the very badly English-translated auto-generated closed captions, one of things that the designer aimed to do with this figure was to enable it to hold the gun with both hands together.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:01 am
by william-james88
Sabrblade wrote:Going by the very badly English-translated auto-generated closed captions, one of things that the designer aimed to do with this figure was to enable it to hold the gun with both hands together.


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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:09 am
by carytheone
Sabrblade wrote:Going by the very badly English-translated auto-generated closed captions, one of things that the designer aimed to do with this figure was to enable it to hold the gun with both hands together.
Mission accomplished, but at what cost?