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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:26 pm
by Wolfman Jake
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody know how the fans in Japan or reacting to this figure, are they giving Takara any grief directly?


I'd be interested to know this as well. MP-45 Bumblebee just doesn't do it for me. But I've been complaining about Takara Tomy's path toward Masterpiece Transformers having a more "animated" look for quite some time. This is not what I want. I'd like to go back to the toy/cartoon/real world hybrid that we had for the longest time with this line.


I'll be honest, I'm getting this figure anyway because I still have hope that it'll be so much better in hand but I'm really starting to have a hard time with it, and it's squarely due to the feet.


Exactly. The proportions are understandable looking at the animation model, and the backpack is forgivable since it's a conceit of so many other Transformers toys, but those feet are just awful eyesores all the way around.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:29 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
The flaws for this toy are less 'death of a thousand cuts' for me, and more 'death by several large stab wounds'. The feet, the backpack, the head, the price... It's just borderline insulting to me.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:16 pm
by Optimutt
Seibertron wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
carytheone wrote:
procyon wrote:Found this link, and found it super interesting. Kind of confirms my bias: http://www.tfarchive.com/toys/reference ... _heads.php
Wow that is a lot of head.


Worth noting is that even tho the Classic Pretender is supposed to be Bumblebee, the head sculpt is clearly based on Cliffjumper ;) Would be pretty funny if TakaraTomy sneaked that one in somewhere.


Pretender Bumblebee as Cliffjumper would have been an amazing BotCon exclusive back in the day. Toss in Pretender Skywarp and Pretender Thundercracker along with Pretender Ricochet and that would have made for a cool set.


What an awesome idea! And Overkill for Grimlock.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:34 am
by Cyberpath

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:15 am
by Ironhidensh
I still want to know what the hell they were thinking (or smoking) when they approved this design for production.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:32 am
by Cyberpath
Ironhidensh wrote:I still want to know what the hell they were thinking (or smoking) when they approved this design for production.


"We need to get this out while the Bumblebee film is still a thing"....?

He looks good in that photo though, that's actually why I posted it. Except for the back of his feet. And we know what a mess his back is. Oh well!

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:43 am
by -Kanrabat-
Poor Bee have crumpled paper balls as feet.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:33 am
by Ironhidensh
-Kanrabat- wrote:Poor Bee have crumpled paper balls as feet.

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This is the best description I've heard yet! :lol:


You win an internet!

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:06 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Still a hard pass for me. It's almost embarrassing.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:21 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
This and MP-44 should be scrapped, recalled, and their plastic melted down and re-dyed to make something worthwhile like replacement Dark Crumplezone fins. Same for MPM Ironhide.
I'm sorry, but I have nothing but contempt for those particular "MP"s.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:30 pm
by chuckdawg1999
It killed me to do this but I just canceled MP-45. It never looked 100% right and I could've handled that, what I couldn't handle was the possibility nothing would peg together well, even if the TonTon review copy was an "Early" sample, I just couldn't take the chance.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:57 am
by -Kanrabat-
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:This and MP-44 should be scrapped, recalled, and their plastic melted down and re-dyed to make something worthwhile like replacement Dark Crumplezone fins. Same for MPM Ironhide.
I'm sorry, but I have nothing but contempt for those particular "MP"s.


At least, MP-44 managed to do something awesome despite some flaws.
But this MP Bee... Nothing can redeem this thing.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:46 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Well, actually nice to see others realizing what a waste of plastic this is. :D

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:04 am
by ZeroWolf
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, actually nice to see others realizing what a waste of plastic this is. :D

I never realised that there was any other opinion :lol: all the ones I've seen on here have not been flattering t

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:25 am
by Nathaniel Prime
ZeroWolf wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, actually nice to see others realizing what a waste of plastic this is. :D

I never realised that there was any other opinion :lol: all the ones I've seen on here have not been flattering t


I'll admit my opinion is much higher of him than before. For what he does, I am impressed with it. Am I 100$ impressed? Nope, not at all, when I can get the far superior MMC Bruticus limb bots for that kinda money, or even the original MP Bee for 60% less.

The engineering and articulation is nice, and I like the idea of wheels folding into a cavity. The backpack isn't as bad as I thought anymore, nor is the feet kibble.

The face is still atrocious however.

Overall, he's... ok

I won't cry over getting him, nor will I want to get him in the future, but if someone gives me one as a gift, I won't complain.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:33 pm
by Sabrblade
Not my pic:

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:17 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Sabrblade wrote:Not my pic:



Poor Bee got mercilessly stomped by Devastator... :(

He's oddly glad about it though. :shock:

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:02 am
by Cyberpath
Takara, what... what is this?

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Maybe you should go back to incorporating the actual car parts in the robot-mode...?


The elbow's really cool though.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:12 am
by Sabrblade
You... You didn't know? After all this time? Image

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:34 am
by ZeroWolf
My personal belief is that the designers made bee like this on purpose to protest the way the mp line is heading, taking a stand against obsessive cartoon accuracy

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:45 am
by Cyberpath
Sabrblade wrote:You... You didn't know? After all this time? Image


I keep hoping it's not as bad as I remember, but every time I see it I'm amazed anew that this thing got produced.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:21 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Cyberpath wrote:Takara, what... what is this?

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Maybe you should go back to incorporating the actual car parts in the robot-mode...?


The elbow's really cool though.

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God! it's like we caught him in mid-internal explosion or something! This would be inexcusable as a third-party toy for ten bucks!

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:11 am
by Cyberpath
Yeah. I figured MP-33 Inferno would usher in a new era of smart engineering and clean backs, but... yeah.

I was watching the show the other day and wondered how Takara will over-complicate Jazz. The previous head-designer said that animated characters with transformation similar to their toys, like Prowl, are easier to pull off. I think Jazz falls into that category. So hopefully they will take that approach when it's his turn. It'd be cool if they work out his wings in a way that you can either hide or display them (for the sake of the inevitable toy-accurate "Plus" edition, for those that prefers it.)


Cyberpath wrote:Image

The coolest part about MP-45.


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Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:34 am
by Plutoniumboss
Sabrblade wrote:Not my pic:

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Still can't unsee the boob window. Bee's got some cleavage.

Re: Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:20 am
by -Kanrabat-
Plutoniumboss wrote:Still can't unsee the boob window. Bee's got some cleavage.


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