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Dominus Prime wrote:Yea they are. Bout the only problem I have with the design.

Ironhidensh wrote:Considering this Zetacron answers almost all of the problems a large portion of the community has had with Haslabicron from day one, its hardly a 'low move'.

Ironhidensh wrote:People buying this, for the most part, were not going to buy Haslabicron anyway

-Kanrabat- wrote:So, no. Zetanicron cannot "steal" any Haslabicron orders. Most likely many Zetanicron buyers will still back Haslabicron too.

Stargrave wrote:No, but putting your dollar where it counts changes things. That's the whole point of the fan backed campaign concept. I see what people say about the limitations of the campaign but they did extend it, that's not nothing. I also see what you're saying but this just seems like the effort to stymie the complaining and offering people the chance to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak

What an effective villain. All these years after they blew his head off and still he drives us to these levels of passion for these fun transforming puzzle robots.

megatronus wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Considering this Zetacron answers almost all of the problems a large portion of the community has had with Haslabicron from day one, its hardly a 'low move'.

Making different design choices isn't the low move, it's announcing the project in the first place. It's one thing to fill a void, it's another to so brazenly compete with an official product while stealing the IP of the self same character. It's not just shady, it's pretty scummy.

Ironhidensh wrote:I also fully agree with others that if Hasbro hadn’t said to hell with Europe, this would have, for good or bad, most likely been backed already.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I also fully agree with others that if Hasbro hadn’t said to hell with Europe, this would have, for good or bad, most likely been backed already.

Not make the crowdfunding worldwide IS the real problem here. Why the hell did they do that? Seriously? What is the reasoning of making the program for Americans, Canadian, and Japanese exclusively?
Anyone at Hasbro-Takara who can give a clear answer that is not langue de bois or (waffle speak?)?

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I also fully agree with others that if Hasbro hadn’t said to hell with Europe, this would have, for good or bad, most likely been backed already.

Not make the crowdfunding worldwide IS the real problem here. Why the hell did they do that? Seriously? What is the reasoning of making the program for Americans, Canadian, and Japanese exclusively?
Anyone at Hasbro-Takara who can give a clear answer that is not langue de bois or (waffle speak?)?

Logistics. Finding the right partner. As others have pointed out, there's not a retailer in the UK who would be suited for this guy.

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I also fully agree with others that if Hasbro hadn’t said to hell with Europe, this would have, for good or bad, most likely been backed already.

Not make the crowdfunding worldwide IS the real problem here. Why the hell did they do that? Seriously? What is the reasoning of making the program for Americans, Canadian, and Japanese exclusively?
Anyone at Hasbro-Takara who can give a clear answer that is not langue de bois or (waffle speak?)?

Logistics. Finding the right partner. As others have pointed out, there's not a retailer in the UK who would be suited for this guy.

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I also fully agree with others that if Hasbro hadn’t said to hell with Europe, this would have, for good or bad, most likely been backed already.

Not make the crowdfunding worldwide IS the real problem here. Why the hell did they do that? Seriously? What is the reasoning of making the program for Americans, Canadian, and Japanese exclusively?
Anyone at Hasbro-Takara who can give a clear answer that is not langue de bois or (waffle speak?)?

Logistics. Finding the right partner. As others have pointed out, there's not a retailer in the UK who would be suited for this guy.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just gonna repost what I said on TFW2005:

Let's look at this from a Public Image standpoint: Hasbro is in deep trouble. Think about it: having one crowdfunding project fail (Cookie Monster) makes them look bad. Have two fail makes them look very bad. Have two fail, one of which has an extended deadline, would likely cause a lot, if not all, faith in Haslab to be lost. They pretty much have to make this in order to keep Haslab going.

Just my opinion though.

Burn wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just gonna repost what I said on TFW2005:

Let's look at this from a Public Image standpoint: Hasbro is in deep trouble. Think about it: having one crowdfunding project fail (Cookie Monster) makes them look bad. Have two fail makes them look very bad. Have two fail, one of which has an extended deadline, would likely cause a lot, if not all, faith in Haslab to be lost. They pretty much have to make this in order to keep Haslab going.

Just my opinion though.

Yeah ... no. If Unicron fails, it fails. If people are going to write off an entire company over that one failure, then I'll put this simply.

They're idiots.

EVERY company has a failure at some stage in business. Yeah, they'll lose money over this, they'll get a bit of bad PR, but they have many other lines, in Transformers alone, to keep on going.

If Unicron fails, most people will have forgotten about it within in a year, anyone who keeps bringing it up, and there will be a small few, are just assholes because of some petty childish grievance they have against the company that has given them a franchise they've gotten years of enjoyment from.

Stargrave wrote:Zeta took all their Unicron stuff off FB maybe Hasbro said something.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Stargrave wrote:Zeta took all their Unicron stuff off FB maybe Hasbro said something.

Just heard the same thing, strange that it went down so quick.

I agree with the earlier sentiments that Zeta's thing was a total dick move on their part. I really don't like 3rd parties for the most part.

GET UNICRON NOW: If this gets funded, Ron Friedman and I have committed to teaming again on a new G1 Transformers project featuring Unicron. No guarantees as to what, but we'll do it.

Okay, I know $600 is a lot of money. My own wife was kind of startled. Still, this is our one shot at creating the biggest action figure in history and I'm trying to get them to promise to get me the head.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Here's an idea. How about that guy give some hints on what could be the next thing?

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Here's an idea. How about that guy give some hints on what could be the next thing?

Flint Dille isn't a member of HasLab or even of Hasbro, so he wouldn't be privy to such information. He's as much an outsider as the rest of us.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Here's an idea. How about that guy give some hints on what could be the next thing?

Flint Dille isn't a member of HasLab or even of Hasbro, so he wouldn't be privy to such information. He's as much an outsider as the rest of us.

So he pulled this out of his ass, making that info completely useless and pointless.

Eh.

Bigger news would be all those DMCA attacks made against the Zetanicron on Facebook and YouTube by petty fanboys.
As if such behavior would save Haslabicron. That's some bad karma right there.