Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

Well, I'm stoked for Snapdragon, Scorponok, Fasttrack, Sky Lynx, and Doubledealer. I'm modestly looking forward to Airwave, the Allicon, Arcee, Runamuck, the Quintesson, and probably Smokescreen.

The Allicon looks really cool, but I have to say I'm very disappointed they didn't engineer a way to hide his robot hands in beast mode. It's pretty unsightly. I honestly expect better from Generations in 2020. That aside though, he is awesome!

Everything in Earthrise looks so amazing, it's all a buy for me. I also might have to buy multiples of the modulators and definitely multiples of the ramp bots. ouch. it'll be nice to finally have a complete trio of proper earth datsuns.

Except that you can't really count ER Smokescreen as a "Proper Earth Datsun" per se, because he actually looks less Datsun-like than the SIEGE mold. His new hood and front end make him look more like a 21st-century Nissan than a semi-classic Datsun Fairlady.

Honestly, Earthrise has a lot of good stuff, but only a few of these new reveals appeal to me. Those would be Sky Lynx, Airwave, Fasttrack, and Doubledealer. I’m royally ticked off that Hasbro squandered a shot at Prime Smokescreen.

You were royally deluding yourself if you thought that he was even a contender.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You were royally deluding yourself if you thought that he was even a contender.

Sad but true, the rumours even said it would be his G1 self.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that you can't really count ER Smokescreen as a "Proper Earth Datsun" per se, because he actually looks less Datsun-like than the SIEGE mold. His new hood and front end make him look more like a 21st-century Nissan than a semi-classic Datsun Fairlady.

unfortunately for you i throw the term around willy nilly and aren't actually a stickler for accurate car forms and just wished for a mold that was more accurate than the cw mold and not crap like the classics (or was it universe?) mold

also i agree that there was no hope for prime smokescreen at all. if we see any homages at all to prime i will be surprised

Rainmaker wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that you can't really count ER Smokescreen as a "Proper Earth Datsun" per se, because he actually looks less Datsun-like than the SIEGE mold. His new hood and front end make him look more like a 21st-century Nissan than a semi-classic Datsun Fairlady.

unfortunately for you i throw the term around willy nilly and aren't actually a stickler for accurate car forms and just wished for a mold that was more accurate than the cw mold and not crap like the classics (or was it universe?) mold

I don't think the the Universe mold was crap, but the legs sure as hell aren't G1-accurate.

I nitpicked the Datsun name use b/c I'm something of a fan of Datsuns and I like the aesthetics of the Autobot cars' '80s altmodes better than I do those of the Classics and Universe modernizations.

There was mention of Sky Lynx's base mode being like the Micromaster rocket base and while it is vaguely similar, overall it is not that. I bring this up because I'd really love to see the big ol Rocket Base and hope this is not meant as a real substitute.

Liking what's here for Earthrise. If it's gotta be G1, at least there's extremely little 84/85 here. Quintesson looks fun and I'm glad they just went with a base mode instead of trying to do too much. Hopefully the Alicon can "lay down", maybe it can and I missed that in the pictures.

Really dig the little snake ramp dude. Reminds me a bit of that Headrobots kit from forever ago.

The Siege repaints do nothing for me but it's smart to get those out for when the show's on. That Mirage redeco gives me Rescue Bots Morbot vibes, at least in the alt mode.

Hot off the presses!

Earthrise prices:

Allicon: £16.99/£16.95

Airwave: £16.99/£16.95

Arcee: £16.99/£16.95

Chromia: £19.99

Decepticon Mirage: £19.99

Doubledealer: £46.99/£43.95

Fasttrack: £16.99/£16.95

Hound: £19.99

Hotlink: £39.99

Megatron: £39.99

Runamuck: £16.99/£16.95

Scrapface: £19.99

Scorponok: £137.99/£134.97

Sideswipe: £19.99/£16.95

Sky lynx: £77.99/£72.95

Smokescreen: £16.99/£16.95

Snapdragon: £23.99/£22.95

Quintesson Judge: £23.99/£22.95

These are the initial pre-orders up for Indemand Toys and Kapow, respectively

Hoooo boy, a lot to unpack here. The Quintesson looks great, and it's a proper Quintesson at long last. Definitely want him, and maybe even Energon Alpha Q to go with him (if I can find one!). The rest look good, with three notable exceptions.

Arcee is just mediocre. The "hoverboard" is pretty feeble and gives her a gigantic backpack if left on, also the rear of her, uh, rear is unpainted, making her look like she's wearing backless panties gone wrong.

Doubledealer looks kinda gaff too, the robot mode has some weird proportions and the vehicle mode is a bit shonky. The bird mode is awful but that's to be expected from Doubledealer.

The Alicon, YIKES. That looks bad. His arms really should have pulled a POTP Terrorcon and been reused for beast mode with the hands flipped around for claws, rather than...whatever the hell they went with there. On the plus side, he did give me and a friend a laugh; we've decided he is Blot's processor-challenged little brother, Plop. As such I might buy him for a giggle.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I nitpicked the Datsun name use b/c I'm something of a fan of Datsuns and I like the aesthetics of the Autobot cars' '80s altmodes better than I do those of the Classics and Universe modernizations.

I mean, when I think of a classic Import car the Datsun is what usually pops into my mind.And the Siege Smokescreen looks closer to this than the Earthrise Smokescreen. I think it's the bottom grill that makes it look more like a Japanese tuner.I do like how the Earthrise figure has side mounted rearview mirrors.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You were royally deluding yourself if you thought that he was even a contender.

Can't stop me from hoping.

If I'm not mistaken, the Quintesson's faces can spin right?

Has it been mentioned that this box says "Battlefield Rung"? I'm sure it has, just tough to keep up with all the info on these event weekends.

Also worth noting is some of the branding seems to being referring to these figures as 'Netflix series' and not Earthrise, with some re-releases from SIEGE being thrown in too.

If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

The overall silhouette is like the Fairlady's, and the way the shoulder pins are done ends up looking like the signature Datsun headlights.

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

I mean, it has a long front without much of a lower bumper and that rounded hatch-back look. But upon closer inspection I really hope they make Smokescreen and drop the bottom bumper. That thing is huge and sticks out. Get rid of that and the new mold would actually be way more accurate.

Anyone else getting Jazz vibes from that Smokescreen, alt mode looks similar enough and robot mode is simplistic. Soooo Hasbro get on that?

Logsters65 wrote:Anyone else getting Jazz vibes from that Smokescreen, alt mode looks similar enough and robot mode is simplistic. Soooo Hasbro get on that?

While I'm not bothered by ER Megatron and Smokescreen, I would be bothered by another Jazz. We already just got PotP Jazz who was okay and RTS Jazz is already setting a high standard.

aronjlove wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

I mean, it has a long front without much of a lower bumper and that rounded hatch-back look. But upon closer inspection I really hope they make Smokescreen and drop the bottom bumper. That thing is huge and sticks out. Get rid of that and the new mold would actually be way more accurate.

You'd also need to change the headlights.

If they make the others, the spoiler and the bottom bumper are hopefully Smokescreen-specific. They makes sense on him, but not the others.

ScottyP wrote:There was mention of Sky Lynx's base mode being like the Micromaster rocket base and while it is vaguely similar, overall it is not that. I bring this up because I'd really love to see the big ol Rocket Base and hope this is not meant as a real substitute.

It definitely sounded like this is the closest we're getting to the Rocket Base for the immediate future. I'm not sure there's a middle ground between the vintage toy and the Sky Lynx base model.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

I mean, it has a long front without much of a lower bumper and that rounded hatch-back look. But upon closer inspection I really hope they make Smokescreen and drop the bottom bumper. That thing is huge and sticks out. Get rid of that and the new mold would actually be way more accurate.

You'd also need to change the headlights.

If they make the others, the spoiler and the bottom bumper are hopefully Smokescreen-specific. They makes sense on him, but not the others.

Hopefully they'll remove them, I can't believe it'd be possible for them not to but it is because CW Smokescreen exists.