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aronjlove wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I nitpicked the Datsun name use b/c I'm something of a fan of Datsuns and I like the aesthetics of the Autobot cars' '80s altmodes better than I do those of the Classics and Universe modernizations.

I mean, when I think of a classic Import car the Datsun is what usually pops into my mind.And the Siege Smokescreen looks closer to this than the Earthrise Smokescreen. I think it's the bottom grill that makes it look more like a Japanese tuner.I do like how the Earthrise figure has side mounted rearview mirrors.

Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

I know a lot of people are bummed about Arcee's "jetboard" but I notice on this pic it has little flip-out sides that the Hasbro Pulse render does not display. And the car render definitely has what looks to be wgite 5mm posts on the back and side so her feet are secured on top of the piece. Not sure if this changes anyone's mind but it thought it was cool and she is preordered.

So I did preorder some of these including the select cassettes but will most likely cancel due to the fact I will see them in stores before Pulse even gets them which if I was Hasbro I would fix. Except for the Selects cassettes. Skylynx and Scorponok I will get on Amazon around Christmas when they are cheaper.

kirbenvost wrote:Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

Wow, thanks for posting this! Never knew that bit of backstory.

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aronjlove wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

Wow, thanks for posting this! Never knew that bit of backstory.

You're welcome. It's pretty cool what they did with the old Diaclone-based TFs. Jazz and Mirage are also based on real racecars.

kirbenvost wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

Wow, thanks for posting this! Never knew that bit of backstory.

You're welcome. It's pretty cool what they did with the old Diaclone-based TFs. Jazz and Mirage are also based on real racecars.

Really hope they give us a completely newly molded Jazz. Def a reach, but worth hoping for. Also, would love another Warpath at some point.

Cyberpath wrote:

The silver paint on ER-Megatron looks nice.

The figure is very similar to Siege overall but I think I prefer the detailing on this one -- closer to the cartoon. But again with the tank. I hope you can fake a decent gun-mode.

Smokescreen looks better than the Siege version, too. Both the deco and mold, like the MP.

Allicon actually has a tail, that's good.

How long till figures usually go on sale?

I think these are due out in September. Also, be wary of that paint on Megatron, these are usually painted prototypes, I would not take these as the final deco in any instance.

ScottyP wrote:Has it been mentioned that this box says "Battlefield Rung"? I'm sure it has, just tough to keep up with all the info on these event weekends.

It was brought up by D-Max. I guess that means it's one of the extras found inside.

Leader-class Ultra Magnus repainted as Rung, with inner Voyager-class bot repainted as Rung, plus Rung Battlemaster repainted as Minimus. You heard it here first.

Seibertron now has a whole gallery with fresh new images and views of the Transformers War for Cybertron Earthrise display from the 2020 Toy Fair. Here we get clearer views and different angles for deluxes Arcee and Smokescreen, Airwave as the 2nd Micromaster base to be given a robot mode and named a Modulator, the first ever Allicon figure, and Fasttrack as a weaponizer/modulator type bot for Scorponok.

In the voyager class size, we have a new Earth mode Megatron who is a retool of his Siege self with new parts to resemble an Earth tank. We also have a Quintesson toy that turns into a base/prison mode complete with a cage large enough to hold Micromasters. Finally, we have Snapdragon, who finally complete our G1 Headmasters set from The Rebirth.

The larger classes include Leader class Doubledealer, who has all 3 of his original modes plus new base-compatible pieces to join up with the growing number of base/city bots. His powermasters will be sold in the Selects line as the Soundwave Spy Patrol Part 3. We also have a glorious Commander class Sky Lynx, and the Titan class Scorponok with Lord Zarak himself.

You can also see the Generations Selects casette pack which do include Doubledealer's partners.

You can go to the entire gallery here or click on any image to be brought there. And you can click here to see all the different galleries we have for Toy Fair 2020.

aronjlove wrote:

Dr. Caelus wrote:

M. Spector wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm pretty sure he has his dinosaur mode, I can see the feet folded up on his arms.

Looking at Runamuck reaffirms my belief that Sunny will be a Wheeljack retool.

The Quintesson's base bits look fun.

I'll take it on faith he does the. Honestly that makes me more excited if its that well hidden/integrated into the other modes

The preorder listing on Pulse has the dino mode.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/gen ... snapdragon

The Titan Master's legs are the jaw!

As a huge fan of the Titan Master gimmick, confirmation of Titan Master compatibility puts Snapdragon on my list.

Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

Nice! I'm glad that at least some of the powermaster gimmick is present, even if they've been turned into cassettes

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

Nice! I'm glad that at least some of the powermaster gimmick is present, even if they've been turned into cassettes

Agreed! I was super happy to see them revealed in the live stream. That will complete Doubledealer.

I consider Prime and Getaway sort of complete since they have headmasters named for their powermasters. Dreadwind and Darkwing aren't complete since they don't have their partners. and we still need Joyride and Slapdash

So DD's Minions will ride along Soundwave's in a Select box?
I'm fine with that, but as long that it's a Select available at TrU or Walmart, not some hard to obtain exclusive bull.

After going through the gallery and obsessing studying the images of Doubledealer for research purposes, I noticed one of them had Doubledealer's robot mode with Decepticon badges! Does that mean that he'll have a rotating badge gimmick like Jetfire and Universe Dinobot?

Its on BBTS: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/117462

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

Nice! I'm glad that at least some of the powermaster gimmick is present, even if they've been turned into cassettes

Agreed! I was super happy to see them revealed in the live stream. That will complete Doubledealer.

I consider Prime and Getaway sort of complete since they have headmasters named for their powermasters. Dreadwind and Darkwing aren't complete since they don't have their partners. and we still need Joyride and Slapdash

Frankly, I'm hoping for a proper Lightfoot/Getaway in part 3 of the trilogy alongside Joyride and Road King/Slapdash, and maybe a fresh go at Dreadwind (possibly as a CW Mirage reshell rather than an Aerialbot retool).

9 pages later I finally catch back up...

Sentinel_Primal wrote:After going through the gallery and obsessing studying the images of Doubledealer for research purposes, I noticed one of them had Doubledealer's robot mode with Decepticon badges! Does that mean that he'll have a rotating badge gimmick like Jetfire and Universe Dinobot?

Probably, but I don't think they're meant for use in this mode since it's his Autobot mode. In his bird mode the symbols would still be visible from beneath so it makes sense to be able to change them.

One thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that not only does the blue chest portion flip all the way down to over his legs for bird mode, but there's also a pivot point just below it so you can spin it around. I bet you can turn it around and snap it back in place to expose Skar or Knok in his chest (or under the bird) outright, basically making him a Breastmaster. Trying to figure out why he comes with the little gun. Nothing wrong with more weapons, but it's strange when the original didn't have it and they're usually so frugal.

The Allicon is neat, but when I look at it all I can see is this:



Also his descriptions says, "An obedient guard, this Quintesson Allicon converts into beast modes in 14 steps and comes with a spear accessory." Beast modes, plural. Probably a typo but he does have an extra forward tilt joint just above his feet that isn't used for either mode. Maybe he's hiding a third form?

Glad the Judge looks good because I have no intention of changing him into anything else.

I'm so tired of Micromaster cars. Howabout some more jets or something?

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:After going through the gallery and obsessing studying the images of Doubledealer for research purposes, I noticed one of them had Doubledealer's robot mode with Decepticon badges! Does that mean that he'll have a rotating badge gimmick like Jetfire and Universe Dinobot?

He has hinges and flap on top of the symbol. You just flip that hinge up for down to change allegiance

Has it been said, officially, yet what the name of Scorponok's middleman head bot will be? "Megazarak" is currently just a fan guess, as far as I know.

What's up my fellow collectors, I'm new here and would love to know when this new wave of Earthrise figures will be available. So to my knowledge, Target had been selling them but they're not listed on the Target site,its an in store only deal.Looking to add these Transformers to my collection.I also collect vintage G.I.JOES and new modern Star Wars figures.Glad to be a part of this awesome community. Autobots roll out.

Sabrblade wrote:Has it been said, officially, yet what the name of Scorponok's middleman head bot will be? "Megazarak" is currently just a fan guess, as far as I know.

I think officially they're both just "Zarak" but I'm not 100% on that.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Has it been said, officially, yet what the name of Scorponok's middleman head bot will be? "Megazarak" is currently just a fan guess, as far as I know.

I think officially they're both just "Zarak" but I'm not 100% on that.

The images from the IGN article that revealed Skorponok, Fasttrack, Arcee and Sky Lynx referred to the "middleman" headmaster as Lord Zarak, and the smaller titan master as just "a smaller titan master". I have no idea how official that is.