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Bone Age wrote:

Emerje wrote:Chicken legs aren't really a thing in Beast Wars anyway, not even sure where that idea came from. There are a few figures that have unusual leg joints, but most of those are from Transmetals 2 like Cheetor and Scourge and that was just to emphasize their twisted appearance. Megatron doesn't have chicken legs since his robot knee sits back from the t-rex knee fixing his alignment to his foot.

I would say Claw, Jaw, Armordillo, Rattrap, Tarantulas, Scorponok, Airrazor, Airhammer, Cidacadon, Ram Horn, Iguanus (shall I go on?) could be said to have 'chicken legs' when compared to almost any G1 character, Jazz, Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Grapple, Huffer, etc. I think 'chicken legs' is a pretty dumb way to describe it though, I mean in that case you could say a Spider Man or Batman figure have 'chicken legs'. But hey, G1 people seem committed to hating on other toylines, so I let them have it most of the time, lol...

Um, what? I think you misunderstand what people mean by "chicken legs".

These are "chicken legs".





It's all about that extra bend in the leg that give them a bird-like appearance.



All of the BW figures you named have normal straight legs.

Emerje

We knew that there would be a significant difference in height between the two first voyagers in the upcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom line. However, we weren't sure if that meant Cyclonus would be much taller than normal or if Optimus Primal would be shorter than normal (normal being your standard faction leader, like Optimus Prime and Megatron, which are usually voyager height). Well, while we do not have comparisons for Cyclonus, we do have some for Primal and he isn't all that tall. You can see the images below which we found on Vector Sigma's Facebook page.

I am okay with this height. This allows for Rhinox and Dinobot to both be taller than him.

It would make sense for the Maximals and Predacons to be smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons, if we remember from the show they were significantly shorter than them

Agent 53 wrote:It would make sense for the Maximals and Predacons to be smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons, if we remember from the show they were significantly shorter than them

Yeah, but this isn't adhering to that particular scale since the average Maximals and Predacons were closer to human-sized. They'd need Legends and Legion toys to better match that.

Deluxe size for Voyager prices

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

Not gonna lie, the "who the hell is this guy" pose the OPs have for OP in the second picture caused me to audible laugh. Bravo, photo taker.

Emerje wrote:

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

Not to mention he also has two swords, posable fingers, and his two over the shoulder guns, so he's quite better both accessory and posability wise compared to deluxes

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Standard sized deluxe with accessories, that you have to make another purchase to get all of his accessories. Nothing new about that

Not sure I'll be able to rationalise £40 for a netflix deco of him but Hasbro can pull out all the stops when it is least expected.

I have no issues with the size. He looks good.

You know somehing? I'm fine with the size,

He is kind of small... but I guess it makes up for that with the transformation, and features. Accessory count is kind of light at 2 swords, and yes you need a fossilizer to give him his mace.

Heck even the 10th anniversary/Cybertron Primal had a big hunk of plastic hover board thrown in.

This Primal looks to be about the same height but chunkier / heavier than that one though. Still $30 is bordering on excessive. While depending on the actual transformation and features may or may ot be palatable for some.

For me, still keeping him pre-ordered unless there's something in a future review I really dislike about him.

Last time I passed on an Optimus Primal for not feeling him too much at the time it took me 2 decades and a repaint / release to get him at a decent price.

Know what? I'm perfectly fine with smoll Primal. He'll still have the "meat" to justify the Voyager cost.

Emerje wrote:

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

Yup.

The Siege Ironhide mold may be tall, but you could make an icecube tray out of him for all the gaps and hollows.

You know somehing? I'm fine with the size,

I'm fine with the size. We have to take some things into account with this comparison.

1) Ironhide is a tall deluxe who accomplishes his size by being very hollow. He probably weighs about as much as prowl if we're being honest.

2) Primal is gonna be a hefty boy. Before we even get into parts count he appears solid enough to weigh in at about the same plastic volume as his counterparts if we put them on a scale, and he's made up of quite a few parts at that, before we even take the paint budget into account. This is gonna be a thicc munkey.

3) he'll probably look pretty good riding PotP Optimus Primal as a hover board

Him being short means I can just pin him up against siege megs and leader prime against dino megs for a crossover 2v2

Emerje wrote:

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.

That implies an unfortunate circumstance.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices

Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.

Emerje

I will never be used to that.

Also, I've always been told size doesn't matter.

That's right, size doesn't matter. A short and girthy Voyager is every bit as good as a tall skinny one.

Emerje

Sooo, any staff or heads of the site get a box from Hasbro that they were only allowed to open today on a video chat?

Overcracker wrote:He is kind of small... but I guess it makes up for that with the transformation

Primal has a rather simple transformation comparing to other figures we have gotten in the WFC trilogy, his arms don't even change between modes.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:He is kind of small... but I guess it makes up for that with the transformation

Primal has a rather simple transformation comparing to other figures we have gotten in the WFC trilogy, his arms don't even change between modes.

but he does have the pop-out guns in his arms, I'd sooner take that

Odd that Primal's size is generating outrage, but the vast majority of people seem completely fine with SS Hot Rod. Different reactions to essentially the same situation.