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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:56 pm
by Sentinel_Primal
william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Whoops, guess I should have waited :oops:


You did fine, nothing wrong. I did take the credit though since I found it before seeing it elsewhere.

Oh no, I was just trying to make a joke cause I literally hit the submit button and then when the page loaded I saw the news post. Guess it didn't really work, but not every joke works over text :lol:

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:59 pm
by Notimus Crime
Airazor and Dinobot look really cool so far, but I'll have to wait until we get a more complete look at their robot modes (and beast modes) until I decide if I want them or not.

Inferno is basically a done deal. I know the mold is pretty great because I have Grapple, and it's looking even better as Inferno here.

Ultra Magnus....maybe. I don't have a Magnus, but it's hard for me to commit to saying whether or not I plan on getting another leader since I already plan on getting SS86 Grimlock and Kingdom Megs, and those'll be stretching my Trasformers budget pretty thin as is. So he'll probably go into the "might get but very low priority" pile along with Huffer.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:00 pm
by GeekyGamer Gal
Notimus Crime wrote:Airazor and Dinobot look really cool so far, but I'll have to wait until we get a more complete look at their robot modes (and beast modes) until I decide if I want them or not.

Yeah, I'm hoping that Dinobot doesn't have the robo prolapse of the Masterpiece in raptor mode.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:19 pm
by Fires_Of_Inferno
War for Cybertron Kingdom Inferno!

Me: YES! FOR THE ROYALTY! :PREDACON: :PREDACON: :PREDACON:

*Autobot*

Me: ASKSDHFGKSKS

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:42 pm
by Betenoire
Huffer!!!

Now give me a modern Gears, please, and Christmas 85 will be complete and modernized from the last few waves.

Dinobot looks good as well s Airazor. Weirdly unmoved by Inferno, maybe because of the MP I have.

And they can keep Magus. I have both the first release nd the netflix spoiler and am not interested in a slightly tweaked version of the figure, especially as for space reasons almost all my TFs are in bot mode and he doesn't seem to be retooled much-if any-in that form.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:09 pm
by blackeyedprime
Infernos a likely, dont really need it with having the MP but seeing as I dont have a toy version (unlike Grapple) I'll probably pick him up.

Predacon Dinobot will be a must, always thought the MP was too big to sit on any possible future transmetal rattrap and I think he will pair up nicely with MP Prime as a jurrasic park sized raptor.

Ultra Magnus, unless a size increase easy no. I've got the perfect effect kit coming for CW Magnus so I wont need to buy Kingdom and any future upgrade for him although it is hard to pass on any toy of Magnus.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:11 pm
by sol magnus
blackeyedprime wrote:Ultra Magnus, unless a size increase easy no. I've got the perfect effect kit coming for CW Magnus so I wont need to buy Kingdom and any future upgrade for him although it is hard to pass on any toy of Magnus.

Nearly impossible for me.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:20 pm
by blackeyedprime
sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Ultra Magnus, unless a size increase easy no. I've got the perfect effect kit coming for CW Magnus so I wont need to buy Kingdom and any future upgrade for him although it is hard to pass on any toy of Magnus.

Nearly impossible for me.


If they ever do Kingdom selects in the rare G1 reissue repaints I will be in trouble as I would really want the Yellow version. Original diaclone advert using the diaclone/Delta Magnus as troop builder/carrier doesnt help any too.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:23 pm
by Rodimus Prime
I'm a bit disappointed in Cyclonus. He looks a bit too flat. The BW figures are a pass, not because they're bad, but because the ones I have already are good enough. And Magnus will depend on what the vehicle mode looks like.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:13 pm
by Munkky
Trying to use Arcee as a height comparison for the other Deluxes, Huffer seems to have a decent amount of bulk on him, I was expecting something closer in size to Earthrise Cliffjumper. Airazor and Dinobot look great and I can't wait to have both of them. Ultra Magnus is on my maybe pile, I still have the Seige figure but wouldn't mind an Earth vehicle mode version.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:13 pm
by Lunatic Prime
Huffer is actually a nice surprise to me. Before these images of him leaked he was a definite pass to me but I really like his alt mode in the box art. It looks pretty retro-styled modern or even futuristic and might even fit more into the design concept of the SIEGE than Earthrise line. I hope that the actual toy's alt mode looks exactly like the concept art. And I really like the shield. I have to say that since Earthrise there are quiet a few figures that got shields to get rid of alt mode kibble :-P
But I don't think that he could attach ER/K Prime's trailer appropriately because if you look at the pictures of him unpacked he has one 5 mm port in each of his shins which will be the truck's bed. But of course there might be another one in the middle. In the picture there's even another dark spot at the inner edge of his left shin so that's either a whole in the cardboard insert for the plastic straps he's attached with OR another 5 mm port for alt mode.
Airazor: I think I'll stick to my Armada one or maybe even get a Transmetals one.
Inferno: Grapple is definitely my preferred version of this mold.
Dinobot: The weapon shown in his box art looks like the original one and I'm pretty sure that it'll be his tail transformed because it's a good way to get rid of it being alt mode kibble in robot mode. But it's a bummer to not see his rapier in the box art. It's an indicator that he'll not come with it same as Cheetor didn't include his original weapon(s). But his chest transformation is pretty neat. I thought that the sides of the raptor head could possibly flip up to make it wider for robot mode and show his raptor eyes on his robot chest but also might not end up looking as good as how they actually solved this now and this way the color of the raptor eyes in robot mode is more accurate, too. And in Dinobot's case I hope that the actual figure won't end up looking like its box art in alt mode. But as for the Beast Wars characters in this line it doesn't seem to be the case that it's that accurate I still got hope.
And for Ultra Magnus I haven't been interested in the SIEGE version of him even though I prefer Cybertronian alt modes and therefore I'm less interested in this one. My definitive Ultra Magnus is still the Combiner Wars one. By looking at his box art it looks like they didn't change the inner robot's shoulder parts and he's missing the two big black blasters SIEGE UM came with. But he looks pretty tall. So maybe they copied the engineering of the 3rd party thigh extenders for him and integrated this mechanism into this version and therefore left out the two blasters. It would be kind of funny if they actually copied a 3rd party upgrade kit for this mold this obviously. And for retooling I think that his thighs are the same, too. I guess that all parts of the inner robot that you only see in robot mode are the same as the one's of the SIEGE version.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:28 pm
by Seibertron
Is Dinobot a Voyager or a Deluxe?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:35 pm
by Lunatic Prime
Seibertron wrote:Is Dinobot a Voyager or a Deluxe?

Voyager class according to the leaked listings.
And all for spots for wave 02 Deluxes are already occupied.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:49 pm
by bacem
Interesting, so according to that boxart, huffer has a shield, which may or may not be part of his backpack, which means he is like arcee, where you have option to make it fully transform at cost of huge backpack or using partsforming to make the backpack more compact, except on huffer's case, huge backpack is accurate to his g1 self, and a shield makes more sense than random hoverboard. Depending on how clearer, more detailed picture turns out, i may end up getting him.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:56 pm
by Nemesis Primal
bacem wrote:Interesting, so according to that boxart, huffer has a shield, which may or may not be part of his backpack, which means he is like arcee, where you have option to make it fully transform at cost of huge backpack or using partsforming to make the backpack more compact, except on huffer's case, huge backpack is accurate to his g1 self, and a shield makes more sense than random hoverboard. Depending on how clearer, more detailed picture turns out, i may end up getting him.
According to Apollux, the shield actually forms an optional cover for his truck bed and has nothing to do with his backpack.

Seibertron wrote:Is Dinobot a Voyager or a Deluxe?
Voyager, courtesy of both leaks and the text on the side of his box (EDIT: And the Deluxes already being accounted for, as Lunatic pointed out).

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:41 pm
by blackeyedprime
They might be able to cobble up a homeage of animated Wreckgar repaint out of Huffer with remolded bed cover/prong weapons.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:54 pm
by TheForgottenTaxi
You know, for a while there I was thinking "Damn, could this new Kingdom Cyclonus be so good it replaces Universe 2.0 Cyclonus, one of my favorite CHUG toys of all time?!" Certainly other WFC figures have knocked out CHUG toys I was quite fond of.

But seeing them side-by-side...nah. The new one may be more "accurate," but it's also just really... clumsy looking by comparison.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:09 pm
by Seibertron
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:You know, for a while there I was thinking "Damn, could this new Kingdom Cyclonus be so good it replaces Universe 2.0 Cyclonus, one of my favorite CHUG toys of all time?!" Certainly other WFC figures have knocked out CHUG toys I was quite fond of.

But seeing them side-by-side...nah. The new one may be more "accurate," but it's also just really... clumsy looking by comparison.


I don't know. I loved Universe 2.0 Cyclonus. It has been one of my favorites for past 11 or 12 years.

Kingdom Voyager Cyclonus just dethroned Universe 2.0 Cyclonus yesterday for me. I can't get over how slick it is. The transformation is fairly unique (they did the accordion style transformation with the nosecone, which I love ... one of my favorite things from TFP Deluxe Vehicon) and the leg transformation is awesome that all of the robot kibble folds up nicely inside of the back of the jet so that it is is fully enclosed. It hits all of the right spots for me.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:09 pm
by Seibertron
To those who clarified that Dinobot is a Voyager ... thanks! :-D

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:34 pm
by just_aCloud
Rtron wrote:Huffer! Yes! Now he and Rattrap can complain together for eternity.
Hahaha nice.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:War for Cybertron Kingdom Inferno!

Me: YES! FOR THE ROYALTY! :PREDACON: :PREDACON: :PREDACON:

*Autobot*

Me: ASKSDHFGKSKS
Heheheh...dang it.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:18 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Seibertron wrote:
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:You know, for a while there I was thinking "Damn, could this new Kingdom Cyclonus be so good it replaces Universe 2.0 Cyclonus, one of my favorite CHUG toys of all time?!" Certainly other WFC figures have knocked out CHUG toys I was quite fond of.

But seeing them side-by-side...nah. The new one may be more "accurate," but it's also just really... clumsy looking by comparison.


I don't know. I loved Universe 2.0 Cyclonus. It has been one of my favorites for past 11 or 12 years.

Kingdom Voyager Cyclonus just dethroned Universe 2.0 Cyclonus yesterday for me. I can't get over how slick it is. The transformation is fairly unique (they did the accordion style transformation with the nosecone, which I love ... one of my favorite things from TFP Deluxe Vehicon) and the leg transformation is awesome that all of the robot kibble folds up nicely inside of the back of the jet so that it is is fully enclosed. It hits all of the right spots for me.
Interesting that you cite the leg transformation as a pro. I can see people really not liking the legs - they approach the CW version's bulk level, ending up rather boxy compared to the Universe version's more slim calves (which in being slim are closer to the screen look are several respects):
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Of course, the tradeoff is that the Universe versions legs look kinda janky in altmode (even if you fold the toe tips together, which has not been done here):
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Can the Kingdom version's wings be pointed outward in robot mode while folded behind his arms, as the Universe version's can?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:31 pm
by Seibertron
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Can the Kingdom version's wings be pointed outward in robot mode while folded behind his arms, as the Universe version's can?


Yes, if you mean like Seeker wings, but attached to the arms.

Here's the rear view win for Kingdom Cyclonus. Kudos to Hasbro and Takara for making this happen. I'll admit his robot mode lower legs are a little "bulkier" than I would prefer, but it's minor to pull off this clean off a space jet mode.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:33 pm
by Sentinel_Primal
The way I look at it is each Cyclonus fills a different role. Universe serves the role of smaller scale, plus he comes with his Targetmaster who can peg into the hands like the JG1 Targetmasters, CW is a combiner, and Kingdom's is voyager, plus a really clean transformation overall. And personally if a Shapeways person releases a replacement head to turn Kingdom Cyclonus into IDW Cyclonus, that'd be even better

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:33 pm
by Seibertron
The space jet mode of Cyclonus reminds me a lot of Transformers Prime Vehicon. While out of scale, I'd love to see Cyclonus remolded into Vehicon. Maybe they can repurpose that character into something else for the line.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:37 pm
by Seibertron
Sentinel_Primal wrote:The way I look at it is each Cyclonus fills a different role. Universe serves the role of smaller scale, plus he comes with his Targetmaster who can peg into the hands like the JG1 Targetmasters, CW is a combiner, and Kingdom's is voyager, plus a really clean transformation overall. And personally if a Shapeways person releases a replacement head to turn Kingdom Cyclonus into IDW Cyclonus, that'd be even better


Generations Selects IDW Cyclonus would be truly awesome. And in a 2-pack with Tailgate please. Thanks.