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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
by ZeroWolf
I think the combination could be improved but I can't see Hasbro leaving it out, UT fans would complain too much about a play feature being nixed (on top of the minicon functionality being gone like the last few UT redos)

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:12 pm
by o.supreme
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Plus lets save Tidal Wave (probably a Commander Class) for even we have an Armada Megatron redo to combine it with.
I'm most likely in the minority with this, but I never cared for that combination. I understand it was in response to the Optimus/Jetfire combo, but to me it was awkward and forced, and looked stupid. I guess if we ever get a leader Armada Megatron he might combine with a commander Tidal Wave. Personally, it's a feature I can do without and would gladly sacrifice in order to get better Megatron and Tidal Wave figures.
I feel like the idea (at least in Japan) was not only as a counter to the Optimus/Jetfire combo but also as an homage to the fact that G1 Jetfire and Shockwave were depicted as rivals in their original toy commercial, as Tidal Wave's Japanese name was Shockwave. So it was like "Optimus has combined with Jetfire? Well then Optimus's rival Megatron will combine with Jetfire's rival Shockwave."


Exactly. And while I'm not really a fan of Armada (Yes Micron Legend is a more palatable presentation for me at least) I always thought the Purple Shockwave/Tidalwave looked way better.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by Nemesis Primal
ZeroWolf wrote:I think the combination could be improved but I can't see Hasbro leaving it out, UT fans would complain too much about a play feature being nixed (on top of the minicon functionality being gone like the last few UT redos)
As a UT fan, leave it out, that combination-thing never made sense or looked good and I'd rather get a Titan Tidal Wave for a suitably big alt mode & the Armada game vibes than a Commander one to facilitate that combination.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:48 pm
by ZeroWolf
Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I think the combination could be improved but I can't see Hasbro leaving it out, UT fans would complain too much about a play feature being nixed (on top of the minicon functionality being gone like the last few UT redos)
As a UT fan, leave it out, that combination-thing never made sense or looked good and I'd rather get a Titan Tidal Wave for a suitably big alt mode & the Armada game vibes than a Commander one to facilitate that combination.

I can see them hewing closer to the cartoon scale then the game.

Though knowing Hasbro they'd find a way to do a Titan Class TW and still have it combine. They'd likely to go by the gimmicks shown in the toon after all.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:21 pm
by Munkky
My Sideswipe and Skywarp set arrived today. Some of the paint on Skywarp is a bit messy, especially around the eagle's head, the back of the head is covered in flecks and dashes of stray white paint, a bit of yellow paint on the beak has chipped away leaving an ugly mark, and the white feathers on his wing tips haven't been apinted very well, so bits of dark brown are still coming through. Despite those problems, while I don't like him as much as Airazor, he's still a good use of the mould.
Sideswipe meanwhile is very good, one of the best Transformers I've handled in a while. I've got Red Alert so I knew what I was expecting, but Sideswipe wears the mould much better. I feel as if I need to track down an Earthrise Sunstreaker now, but to avoid another impulse buy I might regret later, I'm going to sit down and really think about what my G1 Autobot shelf is actually going to have on it, because I don't want it to swell up too much.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:55 pm
by Wolfman Jake
For anyone interested, here is a pic of my Kingdom Red Alert after some parts swapping with a Kingdom Sideswipe. The arms below the shoulder have been swapped, along with the feet, and the shoulder cannon barrel. This brings Red Alert a little more in line with his cartoon coloring, but it's not perfect. I would have preferred white thighs, red biceps, and black shoulders, but that would require knocking out several pins or custom painting the figure, and I don't like to modify my figures in any way that's not easily reversible. Anyway, I'm pretty pleased with the results, which look like a combination of color layouts from the original Red Alert Masterpiece release and the later MP+ "Anime Edition" release. :)

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Here's another reversible modification you can make. It's pretty easy to pop the front wheels off, so that instead of letting them tuck away into the chest in robot mode, you can stick them on the sides of the shoulders instead for an even better match to the G1 cartoon character model (and original toy). I figure that a little parts forming is fair. Hasbro and Takara have been designing several figures in the War for Cybertron Trilogy to utilize that as a part their conversion schemes, to various degrees. The wheels, of course, weren't meant to be used like this, but it's easy to do and entirely reversible. You just have to be careful not to damage the pegs on the wheels.

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I plan to do something similar with Kingdom Pipes when he is finally available here in the U.S. I suppose one could do that for Kingdom Huffer too for a more G1 toy look, but I'm happy with the wheel-less cartoon character model that the figure already creates by design.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:42 am
by MaximalNui
william-james88 wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:I have a strong feeling that the Stunticon cars will be retools of Earthrise/Kingdom molds that just clip onto Motormaster's trailer. It'd be sturdier, more animation-accurate, and cheaper than another Scramble City combiner.


They can be new molds and also be clip ons.


If that's the case, I'm sticking to the CW versions, cartoon accuracy be damned. I'd like my combiners to actually combine, thank you.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:52 pm
by chuckdawg1999
It's funny, out of all the combiners the original G1 Menasor toy was the closest to the animation model. Just slap the limbs on and go.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:47 am
by RiddlerJ
ZeroWolf wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I think the combination could be improved but I can't see Hasbro leaving it out, UT fans would complain too much about a play feature being nixed (on top of the minicon functionality being gone like the last few UT redos)
As a UT fan, leave it out, that combination-thing never made sense or looked good and I'd rather get a Titan Tidal Wave for a suitably big alt mode & the Armada game vibes than a Commander one to facilitate that combination.

I can see them hewing closer to the cartoon scale then the game.

Though knowing Hasbro they'd find a way to do a Titan Class TW and still have it combine. They'd likely to go by the gimmicks shown in the toon after all.



It probably wouldn't be a popular option with UT fans, but I would love if they did Tidal Wave as just a Titan size aircraft carrier. One that deluxe size planes could land on,

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:00 pm
by Rodimus Prime
RiddlerJ wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I think the combination could be improved but I can't see Hasbro leaving it out, UT fans would complain too much about a play feature being nixed (on top of the minicon functionality being gone like the last few UT redos)
As a UT fan, leave it out, that combination-thing never made sense or looked good and I'd rather get a Titan Tidal Wave for a suitably big alt mode & the Armada game vibes than a Commander one to facilitate that combination.

I can see them hewing closer to the cartoon scale then the game.

Though knowing Hasbro they'd find a way to do a Titan Class TW and still have it combine. They'd likely to go by the gimmicks shown in the toon after all.



It probably wouldn't be a popular option with UT fans, but I would love if they did Tidal Wave as just a Titan size aircraft carrier. One that deluxe size planes could land on,
That's exactly what would like as well. And that way there's also the potential for a Broadside retool.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:07 pm
by o.supreme
Finally got Tricranius yesterday. All Fossilizers combiner. The colors on Tric are cool, but they make him more "gummi" like and as a result, not as stable all around. Skelivore also being made of clear plastic doesn't have the same issue.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:43 pm
by Changewinds
o.supreme wrote:Finally got Tricranius yesterday. All Fossilizers combiner. The colors on Tric are cool, but they make him more "gummi" like and as a result, not as stable all around. Skelivore also being made of clear plastic doesn't have the same issue.


Wow, thanks for sharing! Colors come together well, though Tricranius does stand out. Love the idea of using Transmutate’s head for the combiner.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:42 pm
by Overcracker
Skywarp II has some excellent balance on one foot with wings fully extended:
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Up up and away Skywarp II

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:15 pm
by Hellscream9999
So I happened to find a scorponok today, and I was pleasantly surprised by the figure. As someone who was not overly fond of the stock images, I actually don't hate the barrel chested design of the figure, he's a bit stocky, and the waist-pelvis ratio is not flattering, but it's an enjoyable figure with a lot of personality and a great beast mode.

If you're on the fence about him, I say give it a go, and see what he does for you in-hand; at worst, you can sell him off to someone who wants him, which shouldn't be hard, based on the fact that no one has him in stock from my last search.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:25 pm
by Rodimus Prime
I like Scorponok. His transformation is a bit odd, but he doesn't look bad in either mode. He holds up in my BW collection nicely, just waiting on his stooge buddies Terrorsaur and Waspinator.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:56 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
speaking of Scorpy, I finally took him to work this week to mess around with. I do like him, I understand the complaints about him, but I find him to be quite enjoyable and a really nice looking little guy bruiser in robot mode. He's just neat to me

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:15 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Decisions were made...

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:21 am
by Nemesis Primal
Road Ranger and Puffer are up for preorder on Amazon and for Premium members only on Pulse!

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TRA ... 052&sr=8-6

Pulse: https://hasbropulse.com/collections/new ... bot-puffer

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:24 am
by Sabrblade
Puffer joins Tigerhawk as being another Transformers equivalent of Tuvix.

Also, explicit GoBots mentions in that description. A far cry from how coy Bug Bite's description was about his origins.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:25 am
by Razorbeast88
Awesome!!!!! I still can't decide if I wanna save money and only get Pipes or skip pipes and go for this set. Decisions decisions

Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:27 am
by Sabrblade
Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.
Or it's a placeholder pic, like all those Sideswipe silhouettes from last year's Galactic Odyssey Collection.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:28 am
by Razorbeast88
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.
Or it's a placeholder pic, like all those Sideswipe silhouettes from last year's Galactic Odyssey Collection.


Ahhhhhhhhh I stand corrected. That makes much more sense!
Can't wait to see what tigatron looks like! Whatever chapter that may be

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:38 am
by Sabrblade
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.
Or it's a placeholder pic, like all those Sideswipe silhouettes from last year's Galactic Odyssey Collection.


Ahhhhhhhhh I stand corrected. That makes much more sense!
Can't wait to see what tigatron looks like! Whatever chapter that may be
No wait. Something's off about that pic. The head and arms look the same, but everything else looks different. It's some kind of Wheeljack retool.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:44 am
by Razorbeast88
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.
Or it's a placeholder pic, like all those Sideswipe silhouettes from last year's Galactic Odyssey Collection.


Ahhhhhhhhh I stand corrected. That makes much more sense!
Can't wait to see what tigatron looks like! Whatever chapter that may be
No wait. Something's off about that pic. The head an arms look the same, but everything else looks different. It's some kind of Wheeljack retool.


Ah. Back to whackjack it is, what a ride this has been hahaha

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:44 am
by blackeyedprime
Razorbeast88 wrote:Awesome!!!!! I still can't decide if I wanna save money and only get Pipes or skip pipes and go for this set. Decisions decisions

Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.


Im skipping Pipes and going for the set.

I'm hoping there is a Wheeljack in the golden sets so he can have the correct torso shape :P I only picked up Netflix version because it was cheeeeap.