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Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:17 pm
by Tuned Agent
High_Q wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:The drawing's alt mode seems based on the Honda City Turbo II. Inaccurate to the G1 toy ...


Based on Skid's bonnet design in the MP artwork, I think both the MP and the G1 toy are based on the Honda City Turbo rather than the Turbo II. My favourite 80s subcompact car, so getting Skids and the green repaint if they release it.

I hope we get the Motocompo scooter and a Charlene figure.
Or clip-on parts and panels that make him look like the Sunbow animation model in both modes which can stay on during transformation.

You're right about it being the City Turbo, thank you for correcting me. And I hope we get a Charlene figure too, it would be unfortunate to have him without the other character from his only meaningful G1 appearance.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:21 pm
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
With Skids coming, Crosscut can't be far behind.

Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:25 pm
by Sabrblade
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?
Maybe the faux cigarette company sponsor logos on his sides are making HasTak hesitant.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:29 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:With Skids coming, Crosscut can't be far behind.

Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?


My guess is locating the license. Unlike other manufacturers, Ligier isn't active in the consumer automotive market, rather it was primarily active in motorsports and now in commercial vehicles and open-air sports. Then there's the (cigarette) advertising, and we all know how that went with Exhaust...

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:39 pm
by sol magnus
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?
Maybe the faux cigarette company sponsor logos on his sides are making HasTak hesitant.

Did they make a Trailbreaker I'm not aware of?

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 pm
by Ultra Markus
Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:So is this like a concept sketch, or is TT doing another drastic style change on the MP line again, because that is not the hyper-smooth cel-like designs they have been going with, that looks like a pre-mp magnus hybrid style mp, man this collection is gonna have no design consistency whatsoever if this is the case :HEADHURTS:

It'd be pretty much impossible to make him based on the cartoon exactly and still have a good figure. The cartoon got the overall shape correct, but they really screwed up the shoulders. I don't think of this so much as being a new type of design as I do fixing the original.

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Compared to the original toy and the MP line art.

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"Compromises" had to be made and I think it turned out for the better. Looks like they'll be retaining the sticker designs from the toy, probably tampographed on.

Since this is just line art there's still room for changes like adjusting the front of the van to the right model.

Emerje

this is one character whos toy looked better than the animation model

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:19 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Really interested to see what style the final toy has, I am really excited for this

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:09 am
by ZeldaTheSwordsman
I think the less toony MPs are superior anyway.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:With Skids coming, Crosscut can't be far behind.

Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?


My guess is locating the license. Unlike other manufacturers, Ligier isn't active in the consumer automotive market, rather it was primarily active in motorsports and now in commercial vehicles and open-air sports. Then there's the (cigarette) advertising, and we all know how that went with Exhaust...
The former is probably a much greater factor. Gitanes isn't nearly as casually recognizable in the US, and the "Citanes" endorsements aren't exactly a lynchpin of Mirage's deco anyway.

sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?
Maybe the faux cigarette company sponsor logos on his sides are making HasTak hesitant.

Did they make a Trailbreaker I'm not aware of?
No.
Should have explained further.

I have an association built in my head between Delta Magnus, Road Rage, Crosscut, Wheeljack, and Mirage because in the Diaclone Powered Convoy commercial, the Car Robots on the featured Powered Convoy's trailer are the Corvette, the Honda City-R, the "Alitalla" version of the Lancia Stratos, and the Ligier JS-11.

We have Wheeljack, we have Road Rage, we have Delta Magnus. With Skids on the way, Crosscut will soon follow. But we are still missing Mirage.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:43 am
by Evil Eye
What's this? A tease of a new G1 MP I actually think looks good? Oh god, the Seventh Seal was broken wasn't it? :lol:

All joking aside, this actually looks nice. I like how the Honda City Turbo looks (Kei cars are cool) and Skids was always a really nice looking G1 toy, so this might actually turn out good!

First Prototype Images of Masterpiece Skids

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:29 am
by Bounti76
Thanks to a tweet from the Twitter account of Honda Japan, of all accounts, we have our first look at the upcoming release of Masterpiece Skids! This actually makes sense when you take into account that Skids' altmode is a Honda, the City Turbo model to be exact. As you can see in the photos below, Skids looks to be far more toy accurate (right down to the shoulder detail looking like the stickers from the G1 toy) than has been the standard for the last several Masterpiece releases. Whether this is due to Skids' scant cartoon appearances, a change in direction for the line, or something else entirely remains to be seen. Enough chatter, feast your eyes on this prototype!

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When translated, the tweet states that the images were published today (Thursday in Japan) in Figure King Magazine #277.

Now that we have our first clear look at the figure, what are you thinking? Is Skids now a must have? Holding out for the (inevitable) retool into Crosscut? Let us know what you think of these images below!

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:51 am
by blackeyedprime
Be nice if the tyres match, it's mp not wfc. Other than that he's looking good, just not over £80 good. If he's hotrod kinda price maybe, if he's hound or arcee price then third party might be my go to.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:58 am
by -Kanrabat-
Well, that Skids does indeed look damn sweet.
But my wallet would prefer a normal Generations figure first.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:41 am
by ThunderThruster
blackeyedprime wrote:Be nice if the tyres match, it's mp not wfc. Other than that he's looking good, just not over £80 good. If he's hotrod kinda price maybe, if he's hound or arcee price then third party might be my go to.


Agreed.

Is it wrong that I'm more interested in what re-deco's this will be released in?

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:44 am
by angtre
Loving the extra detail when compared to more recent MP G1 figures.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:54 am
by cloudballoon
blackeyedprime wrote:Be nice if the tyres match, it's mp not wfc.


Well, the tyres size & hubcaps styling do match, I guess due to the shoulder transformation those front tyres need to be molded with those holes needed for production. But since tyres tend to be black, those holes should not be too obvious when that part is molded/painted in black. Still weird though.

If Takara REALLY want to put in the effort, the designer can easily make an additional frisbee-shaped part that looks like the tyre, and use those 2 holes to friction tab the frisbee part in to make it perfect looking.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:46 am
by Evil Eye
An official MP, with a nice vehicle mode, clean robot mode, apparently non-bull**** transformation and best of all, ACTUAL ROBOT DETAILS?!?

I want it. It's gorgeous.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:14 am
by sol magnus
Evil Eye wrote:An official MP, with a nice vehicle mode, clean robot mode, apparently non-bull**** transformation and best of all, ACTUAL ROBOT DETAILS?!?

I want it. It's gorgeous.

Yes, he's more like the MP-10 to MP-21 era of Masterpiece.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:02 am
by Immortal Starscream
sol magnus wrote:
Evil Eye wrote:An official MP, with a nice vehicle mode, clean robot mode, apparently non-bull**** transformation and best of all, ACTUAL ROBOT DETAILS?!?

I want it. It's gorgeous.

Yes, he's more like the MP-10 to MP-21 era of Masterpiece.


here here! this is a breath of fresh air imho. the over engineering and lack of detail (and the massive cost as a result) on the more recent mp's had been turning me off to them. the second series mps (starting from mp10) were to me the much more definitive "masterpiece" giving a perfect fusion of the original toy and it's appearance in the cartoon, while still being fun and "play-with-able" this to me looks like what a masterpiece Skids should be. Some issues though for sure, but for me he is a step back in the right direction.

Just my opinion

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am
by sol magnus
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think the less toony MPs are superior anyway.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:With Skids coming, Crosscut can't be far behind.

Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?


My guess is locating the license. Unlike other manufacturers, Ligier isn't active in the consumer automotive market, rather it was primarily active in motorsports and now in commercial vehicles and open-air sports. Then there's the (cigarette) advertising, and we all know how that went with Exhaust...
The former is probably a much greater factor. Gitanes isn't nearly as casually recognizable in the US, and the "Citanes" endorsements aren't exactly a lynchpin of Mirage's deco anyway.

sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Now we just need MP Mirage. Seriously, what's been the holdup on him?
Maybe the faux cigarette company sponsor logos on his sides are making HasTak hesitant.

Did they make a Trailbreaker I'm not aware of?
No.
Should have explained further.

I have an association built in my head between Delta Magnus, Road Rage, Crosscut, Wheeljack, and Mirage because in the Diaclone Powered Convoy commercial, the Car Robots on the featured Powered Convoy's trailer are the Corvette, the Honda City-R, the "Alitalla" version of the Lancia Stratos, and the Ligier JS-11.

We have Wheeljack, we have Road Rage, we have Delta Magnus. With Skids on the way, Crosscut will soon follow. But we are still missing Mirage.


Hopefully, we'll get him soon, they're out of 85 cars minus Hoist now.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:42 am
by Glarryg
I like it. The face reminds me of Rip Torn; maybe we can get a Tommie Lee Jones and Will Smith-bot and recreate "Mechs In Black."

Glarryg

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:00 am
by Mindmaster
Even better than I anticipated. Might be the first MP I actively go out of my way for since Sunstreaker. Just hope the price isn’t godawful like the current trend is :(

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:54 am
by Tuned Agent
Skids looks amazing, IMO the best G1 MP in years. :x

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:56 pm
by blackeyedprime
I'm looking forward to the repaints (I think they have at least 3 diaclones and the ehobby duo) so I'm likely to get at least one of him to go next to my Macross VF with the original toy sharing the same designer.
I'd like a Macross repaint as well though, either white with yellow stripes or maybe Max Sterlings blue/white and for the cheek of it do the possible scooter accessory in a mospeada cyclones paint scheme

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:42 pm
by Rodimus Prime
You know what would be an easy repaint out of this, with very minor retooling? Armada Red Alert. We'd have our very first Armada MP. Primus forbid it's not *gasp* Optimus Prime.

I don't collect MPs but this piece looks really nice and the Marvel G1 comic story "Showdown" featuring Skids is 1 of my favorites so I'll get this figure if it's not outrageously expensive.

Re: Masterpiece Skids is Coming in 2021

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:45 pm
by sol magnus
Rodimus Prime wrote:You know what would be an easy repaint out of this, with very minor retooling? Armada Red Alert. We'd have our very first Armada MP. Primus forbid it's not *gasp* Optimus Prime.

I don't collect MPs bit this piece looks really nice and the G1 comic story "Showdown" featuring Skids is 1 of my favorites so I'll get this figure if it's not outrageously expensive.

It's gonna be outrageously expensive. They all are now.