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Rodimus Prime wrote:So his alt mode is going to be a hatchback even though he was a van?

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So his alt mode is going to be a hatchback even though he was a van?

The Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, not a van.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So his alt mode is going to be a hatchback even though he was a van?

The Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, not a van.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So his alt mode is going to be a hatchback even though he was a van?

The Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, not a van.

I know. That's my point. I know his G1 toy was a car, but in media wasn't he portrayed as a van? I know in the G1 comic he was, I don't remember him in the cartoon.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So his alt mode is going to be a hatchback even though he was a van?

The Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, not a van.

I know. That's my point. I know his G1 toy was a car, but in media wasn't he portrayed as a van? I know in the G1 comic he was, I don't remember him in the cartoon.

As a mini-van, yes, a new concept at the time in 1984. The concept of a sub-compact car was (literally) unheard of. About finding him in the cartoon, he appeared in two episodes and minor roles at that: Quest for Survival and Triple Takeover. His lack of proper appearances in the cartoon would get referenced in the Transformers Legends manga

sol magnus wrote:He's not even in the commercial that introduced ALL the 1985 Autobot cars.

Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven Autobot Cars released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of fans. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second Mirage in a case of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the "Transformers" logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the rubsign on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.[1] Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the "Autobot Cars" price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.

As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's production bible intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to limbo by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:He's not even in the commercial that introduced ALL the 1985 Autobot cars.

Because he's actually a late-1984 Autobot Car:

Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven Autobot Cars released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of fans. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second Mirage in a case of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the "Transformers" logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the rubsign on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.[1] Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the "Autobot Cars" price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.

As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's production bible intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to limbo by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.

sol magnus wrote:Nice trivia. Skids is so abandoned I couldn't be bothered to read his TFwiki bio. For his neglect all these years they should have put in WFC, but I'm sure they don't think of it that way.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Nice trivia. Skids is so abandoned I couldn't be bothered to read his TFwiki bio. For his neglect all these years they should have put in WFC, but I'm sure they don't think of it that way.

If you bring up his name I'm pretty sure they're gonna think of the one that nobody wants to talk about.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Nice trivia. Skids is so abandoned I couldn't be bothered to read his TFwiki bio. For his neglect all these years they should have put in WFC, but I'm sure they don't think of it that way.

If you bring up his name I'm pretty sure they're gonna think of the one that nobody wants to talk about.

All the more reason to put the spotlight on the G1 character. Even though there was nothing wrong with the Bayverse version.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Nice trivia. Skids is so abandoned I couldn't be bothered to read his TFwiki bio. For his neglect all these years they should have put in WFC, but I'm sure they don't think of it that way.

If you bring up his name I'm pretty sure they're gonna think of the one that nobody wants to talk about.

All the more reason to put the spotlight on the G1 character. Even though there was nothing wrong with the Bayverse version.

Meh, I liked Skid-Z the best. He was quirky.

Evil Eye wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So his alt mode is going to be a hatchback even though he was a van?

The Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, not a van.

Yeah, Skids was meant to be a "Kei car"- a very, very small car meant for cities and the like. In his incredibly few appearances in the cartoon this got mangled as him being a van for...some ridiculous reason. Not even a stylistic choice like penny-racer Bumblebee, they straight up bungled his character model.

Betenoire wrote:The Red one looks like a GT-R Convoy variant.