The Energon Pub

A few thoughts from the panel:

- First, and this is very important to point out, MAGMATRON!!!!!!!
- Tasmania Kid has turned out great, it looks different enough that I can't tell if it's an original mould or a very heavy retool of Kingdom Rattrap. Either way I might get him.
- The Rocks are definitely not what I imagined, the designs are nice and creative, and it's neat that they took inspiration from Japanese G1 for them. I probably won't buy any of them, but they do look very cool.
- I'm pleasantly surprised by Thundertron, I did think he was going to be a heavy retool of Lio Convoy, so not only am I happy that he's an original mould, but he looks pretty damn good too. I'm definitely buying one, and I can't wait for the other Star Seekers.
- I'm also definitely buying both Animated Optimus and Bumblebee, I'm not 100% decided on Windblade because I'm not a huge fan of the character but the toy does look decent, and while I'm not a big enough Rescue Bots fan to buy Chase, I do think that mould would make a good Evergreen style Barricade.
- The United artwork confirms that we are definitely getting Tidal Wave (in show colours to boot!) and he is able to combine with Megatron, that's one I'm very excited about!
- Tigerhawk does look a bit odd, I don't like the chicken legs or that weird looking tiger head. I feel as if I should buy him because I have Transmetal 2 Megatron, but I'm undecided as of yet.
- Finally, and this is extremely important to point out,

MAAAAAAAGMAAAAAAAATROOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Emerje wrote:
Tasmania Kid is amazing! Done in a sort of cartoon style.

Emerje

Which is odd. Considering the alteration to the design aesthetic made with the Beast Era figures so far ala Kingdom and Legacy. Featuring more "realistic" Beast Modes.

The alt mode is still fairly realistic, but the bot mode proportions feel a little more cartoon like to me. I wish he was done in black instead of gray like the toy, but I'm sure Takara will give us the right colors since only his bot shoulders are visible in alt mode, they can still make him two toned brown. I really like the way he turned out.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:Poster that shows Magmatron and Tidal Wave among many other new faces. They're probably the Commander and Titan, respectively.

Wouldn't that make Tidal Wave an awfully small Titan since the poster shows him connected to Armada Megatron?

Emerje

My own thoughts, catching up with the reveals:

Tasmania Kid: I adore it, he looks good, glad to see more smaller beasts being used for Core class.

Energon Megatron: He looks neat! I like the design, and I have the OG legends Cybertron megatron, so he will go good paired up with that Megatron.

Bouldercrash: I didn't know what to expect, but he looks really interesting, they got me with the armorizers.

Magneous: same as bouldercrash, but I like him more, I love the wheelpecks

Bumblebee: already shared thoughts, but I dig him

Chase: he feels a bit off to me, like he needed the flared boots like Bee did. I wonder what could be so huge from his mold to mention that 6 months early.

Windblade: nothing really screams "cyberverse" to me, but she looks good, and I will gladly let her go with Bee and Shadowstriker on the Cyberverse shelf.

Prime: already said how much I love him, well done.

Thundertron: looks really solid, I like it a lot. He still feels super random in terms of getting another toy, but they nailed him.

Tigerhawk: I am so unbelievably happy he is happening, my favorite Beast finally gets another chance!

The poster: Titan Tidal Wave, about what I expected and I am glad for it. Commander Magmatron is out of left field, but super awesome! Love that we will get that!

2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Poster that shows Magmatron and Tidal Wave among many other new faces. They're probably the Commander and Titan, respectively.

Wouldn't that make Tidal Wave an awfully small Titan since the poster shows him connected to Armada Megatron?

Emerje

Well, if he's the Commander instead, then what's Magmatron? A measly Leader class?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Poster that shows Magmatron and Tidal Wave among many other new faces. They're probably the Commander and Titan, respectively.

Wouldn't that make Tidal Wave an awfully small Titan since the poster shows him connected to Armada Megatron?

Emerje

Well, if he's the Commander instead, then what's Magmatron? A measly Leader class?

JTPrime just confirmed titan Tidal Wave and Commander Magmatron

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Magneous: same as bouldercrash, but I like him more, I love the wheelpecks

Wheelpecks, n., pectoral muscles formed by the combination of fenders and wheels on the chest of a Transformer. Like with all of the robotic muscles on characters from the Infernac universe, Magneous's are rock-hard.
Love it.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

Maybe Titan tidal wave comes with additional tidal wave chunks to attach to megatron.

Magmatron is a must for me if it is a decent toy. one of the few beast figures I never had the original or rerelease of back when all the 'dinobots' and other beastmachine figures were dirt cheap.

Tigerhawk might get some loving form has..third party companies to give it the old toy bird hood. Looks liek a buy even though I passed on TM2 megatron.

Piratecat looks pretty zoid like but I think I'll wait for an energon Ravage repaint.

Windblade is an easy pass, when you have one windblade you have all the windblades needed.

Chase might get reused for a collab? Dunno, he looks cool enough to pick up anyways. *I cant unsee him as t.j hooker. just needs a shatner head.

I'm liking the rock guys but thinking transparent plastic would help them look more crystally and shiny rather than them just going lava/obsidian. Shame we neever got to see what the eenergon monsters would have been like.

Some of those reveals are avaliable on the facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/transformers

blackeyedprime wrote:Piratecat looks pretty zoid like but I think I'll wait for an energon Ravage repaint.

Why would Energon Battle Ravage be a Voyager? He was pint-sized.

Sabrblade wrote:Why would Energon Battle Ravage be a Voyager? He was pint-sized.

Because hasbro easy repaint central, they could even do Bumblebee Movie Ravage from him too XD

I actually think I saw someone on twitter share who Thundertron's retool will be. A lot of the details changed from Thundertron's original body can even work in this.

Tasmania Kid and Tigerhawk, yes! The tiny backlegs on Tigerhawk's beast mode are a bit weird, but it's nice overall. I still have my Snarl from when I was a kid (although missing a beast leg), but this new guy looks distinct enough.

Very interested in the new rock guys, altough they look a bit too... cubic, I guess? I expected them to have more different geomentries, since they're rocks.

Also: MAGMATRON AND TIDAL WAVE, YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

I forgot to mention, I hope we get core class Diver one day!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

What price point do you think it will be?

Would they make Primus as big as Unicron?

TK415 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

What price point do you think it will be?

Would they make Primus as big as Unicron?

I'd guess Unicron sized yep.

And ya know what else: I now feel confident in this answer, as Primus/Cybertron would fit the 40th anniversary celebration of the Transformers. I don't think Omega Prime or Supreme really fit the "brand celebration" deal

Emerje wrote:Leader Tiger Hawk looks cool in bot mode, beast mode has really scrawny back legs. Emerje

Rtron wrote:The tiny backlegs on Tigerhawk's beast mode are a bit weird, but it's nice overall.

How big did you remember his hawk legs being?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

TK415 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

What price point do you think it will be?

Would they make Primus as big as Unicron?

I'd guess Unicron sized yep.

And ya know what else: I now feel confident in this answer, as Primus/Cybertron would fit the 40th anniversary celebration of the Transformers. I don't think Omega Prime or Supreme really fit the "brand celebration" deal

We won't know until next year, but I don't find this logic convincing. If they wanted to tease Cybertron or Primus, there are dozens of better teases they could've done than a reference to Omega Lock, especially since Omega suggests multiple more plausible answers.

Outstanding stuff. Especially Thundertron and Tigerhawk.

This time, it's the Core class figures that are all full of wins!

Yes, those of us that guessed Tidal Wave's coming can brag!

There's not a bad figure in United so far.

Loving that Chase. It's cool that they included the Powered up and Energize weapon.

At this point I have to ask. Why is anyone who already collects transformers figures interested in these updated releases? The majority of sculpts are atrocious when compared to the originals. This Tigerhawk is a joke. I didn't think hasbro could put the bar lower than the new BW Megatron but they did.
I understand kids would like this, but you can get the original Tigerhwak on eBay for $40.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I now feel confident in this answer, as Primus/Cybertron would fit the 40th anniversary celebration of the Transformers. I don't think Omega Prime or Supreme really fit the "brand celebration" deal

Except that animated Omega Supreme would be the Ark which would be very 40th anniversary since the first 5 minutes of the first episode is about powering up the Ark to escape Cybertron.

I would agree that Primus would be a good 40th anniversary, but it'd be another $800 haslab. I'd rather see a $250 Ark done better than what we got with the last autobot.

Lots of preorders have popped up at Amazon. I really LOVE the "Rock Lords" who transform into Flintsones vehicles.