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It’s a big two days for reveals. Hasbro has just given us our first look at two hotly anticipated figures:
Studio series 86 Devastator and Age of the Primes The Fallen/Megstronus


The Fallen uses the Dreamwave design most are familiar with. As for Devastator we now know how all the components will be released, and we know it is meant to scale with the new Menasor.

You can check out the images below:

Also of interest is that in 2025, there will only be 3 waves lasting 4 months instead of 4 waves lasting 3 months (Studio Series and Age of Primes). There will apparently be NO holdover figures in the waves either. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

SS86 Devastator looks pretty good. Need to see how the combiner kibble plays out, and how the shoulders look in a more dynamic pose.

I'm still pretty satisfied with my Unite Warriors Devastator, but if this one gets a G2 repaint, I'd be all over that.

Are there known plans for future combiners? I’ll go for dev, it looks good, and menasor looks way better than the previous verson. Any rumors of a new superion or anything else? The cw versions of combiners seem to have gotten better as they went along… but superion is just not quite there for me.

Are there known plans for future combiners? I’ll go for dev, it looks good, and menasor looks way better than the previous verson. Any rumors of a new superion or anything else? The cw versions of combiners seem to have gotten better as they went along… but superion is just not quite there for me.

Man, that Fallen looks amazing! Love it!

Devastator is...Devastator. Again.

I wanted to be wrong about them not topping CW Devastator. Individuals will probably end up more coherent and G1-like but that combined mode ain't it.

Fallen looks cool though.

bengear wrote:Are there known plans for future combiners? I’ll go for dev, it looks good, and menasor looks way better than the previous verson. Any rumors of a new superion or anything else? The cw versions of combiners seem to have gotten better as they went along… but superion is just not quite there for me.

The rumorleaks say Superion is next (also next year), with Bruticus to follow in 2026.

ScottyP wrote:I wanted to be wrong about them not topping CW Devastator. Individuals will probably end up more coherent and G1-like but that combined mode ain't it.

Fallen looks cool though.

bengear wrote:Are there known plans for future combiners? I’ll go for dev, it looks good, and menasor looks way better than the previous verson. Any rumors of a new superion or anything else? The cw versions of combiners seem to have gotten better as they went along… but superion is just not quite there for me.

The rumorleaks say Superion is next (also next year), with Bruticus to follow in 2026.

Yep, because Primus forbid we get any NEW combiners or characters.

First-Aid wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I wanted to be wrong about them not topping CW Devastator. Individuals will probably end up more coherent and G1-like but that combined mode ain't it.

Fallen looks cool though.

bengear wrote:Are there known plans for future combiners? I’ll go for dev, it looks good, and menasor looks way better than the previous verson. Any rumors of a new superion or anything else? The cw versions of combiners seem to have gotten better as they went along… but superion is just not quite there for me.

The rumorleaks say Superion is next (also next year), with Bruticus to follow in 2026.

Yep, because Primus forbid we get any NEW combiners or characters.

...Isn't the whole point of SS86 to put out old characters with modern design and engineering?

New characters come from new material, like Cyberverse and Earthspark.

Gearslide wrote:
...Isn't the whole point of SS86 to put out old characters with modern design and engineering?

New characters come from new material, like Cyberverse and Earthspark.

Eh, I'm just kind of burnt out on them running through 84-86 G1 yet again. Plenty are not, which is why they do it, so it's all good.

Getting something for all the Primes is neato and while not brand spanking new in every case, it is for some of the 13 and feels "new enough" for me. Alpha Trion's the only tiresome retread in that bunch.

ScottyP wrote:The rumorleaks say Superion is next (also next year), with Bruticus to follow in 2026.

It occurs to me that it would be cheaper to pick up the last couple of limbs I need for CW Superion & Bruticus off ebay, the ones I keep refusing to pay over the odds for, rather than get whole new versions

I'll always have a soft spot for Devastator, as it was my very first Combiner and Mixmaster my very first Transformer. That's why since the Trainbots got released in the MPG line, I'm rooting for some Masterpiece-class figures of the Constructicons and thus I'll pass this excellent figure (although the previous one was nicely scaled so Omega Supreme could have its match).

As for the rumored upcoming Superion, I wonder whether Silverbolt will come with some sort of "exoskeleton" as Motormaster's trailer. After all, Silverbolt's original alt mode was roughly three times in size its fellow Aerialbots', despite not being much bigger than them in robot mode (I know, mass shifting and stuff).

ScottyP wrote:

Gearslide wrote:
...Isn't the whole point of SS86 to put out old characters with modern design and engineering?

New characters come from new material, like Cyberverse and Earthspark.

Eh, I'm just kind of burnt out on them running through 84-86 G1 yet again. Plenty are not, which is why they do it, so it's all good.

Getting something for all the Primes is neato and while not brand spanking new in every case, it is for some of the 13 and feels "new enough" for me. Alpha Trion's the only tiresome retread in that bunch.

Agreed. Dead horse and all that. Alpha Trion though...have we really had a definitive figure for him? One that isn't a repaint?

Megatronus looks great
Is his arm gun the requiem blaster?
Looks like they gave him the rotf staff too

Fallen looks okay, and probably not a blitwing re-use at all but the waryness of reusse sense still tingles. Not a character I'd want or like but if it it is a good toy then might be a maybe.

Devy only for g2 recolors, unite warriors is fulfilling my 86 needs on that one.

They look good. Devastator is a little too similar to the CW/UW version, but I'll still get him because it'll scale better with the rest of the new combiners.

I'm wondering if we'll get SS86 Megatron out of this Fallen mold. Obviously why some heavy retooling.

The Fallen doesn't look half bad.

Both the Fallen and Devastator look great. I'll probably get Devy for scale with the others, but might pass on The Fallen. Having said that, i have a couple comments.

With The Fallen, this iteration is named Megatronus and based on the DW design, but IIRC, he was never called Megatronus in DreamWave. And since TFOne came out, when Megatronus is mentioned, I expect a face that looks like the Con logo.

As for Devy, he seems barely taller than the leader Dinobots, so I guess that wrecks the adherence to the movie scale. Luckily the CW version scales very well with the Dinos so that one will stay on my movie shelf, while this new one will occupy my comic collection.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Megatronus looks great
Is his arm gun the requiem blaster?
Looks like they gave him the rotf staff too

Yup, he’s got the requiem blaster

Mkall wrote:Also of interest is that in 2025, there will only be 3 waves lasting 4 months instead of 4 waves lasting 3 months (Studio Series and Age of Primes). There will apparently be NO holdover figures in the waves either. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Isnt Jazz a repack though? Or does holdover mean something else?

First-Aid wrote:Agreed. Dead horse and all that. Alpha Trion though...have we really had a definitive figure for him? One that isn't a repaint?

All of the G1 A3 figures have been repaints. The Legacy one felt really close to definitive regardless. Almost hate to even say it, but I wouldn't be shocked if they put that out again here in slightly barely different colors.

Fallen looks great. I'll probably get him. I'm not down for all the Primes, but him I still like from his Dreamwave days.

I have Takara's UW Devestator and, honestly, I don't love it. Too big and too simple. I have Herc and Giant from back in the day, but I'd like an official version at that size. So I'm down for this one. It'll be the only new combiner I get; I'm not ditching the UW ones I have. Not even Menasor.

Fallen looks great. Kind of an improved Titanium.

Not feeling the constructions.

I finally realized what was bugging me about Devastator.

His Legs.

The proportions are really weird. His thighs are almost as long the entire portions below the knees. It's very apparent in the shot where he's standing next to Menasor.

In fact, Bonecrusher and Scavenger also have weirdly stubby limbs. Compare the figures to their G1 Art.

william-james88 wrote:

Mkall wrote:Also of interest is that in 2025, there will only be 3 waves lasting 4 months instead of 4 waves lasting 3 months (Studio Series and Age of Primes). There will apparently be NO holdover figures in the waves either. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Isnt Jazz a repack though? Or does holdover mean something else?

They meant figures from a wave won't show up immediately in a consecutive wave. They said all waves in a year will have different figures, no repeats.

Also first look at Star Prime and Liege Maximo who isn't part of the 2025 lineup.

If Star Prime isn't a Powermaster Prime pretool with that chest I'll be shocked! Could he have a smaller Prime mode then?



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