The Energon Pub

My musings on a Leader class Protoform Prime have led me to this question: do you guys care at all about the scale of your Transformers figures? why or why not?

When I was a kid playing with G1 toys I didn't care.

Now that I'm grown up, and have watched the movie, I do care.
But not to the point of saying unless they come out with Leader Bonecrusher, Blackout etc I won't buy the deluxes. To my mind that'd be a big if, and in the meantime I miss out on getting the TF figures I like at even their present Deluxe modes. The Deluxe modes vary greatly in quality and detail though.

Its' starting to matter to me. I wish it wasn't like that.

It's not that big of a deal with me. The only figure that is annoying is Blackout. Other than him, I don't mind that much, even with Brawl.

Depends really... more the size or scale is the more detail it needs

Yeah. I'd say I wish I had a Leader Class Protoform Priem and ultra class Megatron

Scale size matters more to me in their robot size and not so much in their alternate mode when it comes to Transformers or at least my Transformers figures.

The reason is the transformers incorporate mass size conversion technology other wise some of their alternate modes wouldn't work and some of the gestalts would look pathetic.
Just take the Combaticons or the Protectobots for that matter all radically different sizes in vehicle modes and are more evenly sized in robot modes. In gestalt modes each component would adapt to a third size in order to maintain a size balance between the limbs and the main body otherwise you would have have severly mismatched sized limbs.

Why are all the gestalts roughly the same size when the individual teams are created from various different vehicles. Lets take the Stunticons 4 cars and a rig to form the gestalt Menasor. The Aerialbots whom form the gestalt Superion 4 jets and one concord jet. Theorically Superion should be way bigger than Menasor but they are roughly the same size in gestalt mode.
Why you ask well this is my theory as to why that is the multispark that is created when the individual components combine to form their respective gestalt needs to be a certain size say some where between 80 to 100 feet to properly contain the multispark energy for maximum power.

Too small a body and the multispark would destroy the body too large a body and the multispark energy would be demimished severly disabling the effectiveness of the gestalt. But enough of my theories.

To get back to the origional topic I display my Tf according to what scale I believe their robot sizes would be in relation to each other for instance I display my minicons and micromasters along with my 3 inch pcv with my gestalts and pretend the minicons and micromasters are regular sized transformers and are in roughly in scale to my gestalts.

The others I display according to what I believe the scale in robot mode would be to each other. So yeah scale does matter more so in their robot mode than in their alternate mode.

I like to display my figs in scenes, so yeah, size matters.

Always matters somewhat, but the extent varies with the continuity:

G1: We all know the cartoon had loads of mass-shifting (*coughMegatroncough*), so as long as they're all more or less to scale in robot modes, it's alright to me.

Movie: Mass-shifting is considerably less here (the almighty mass-shifting Allspark of doom being a noteworthy exception), so I really want both forms to be as close to scale as feasible.

But in terms of scale overall, I only really care about whether one toy is bigger, smaller or roughly the same size as another. Getting exactly the right scale doesn't concern me too much.

^ what he said.

In the movie figures it matters to me, and I was really pleased when I put the Voyager Ironhide and Deluxe BB'08 next to one another and next to Leader Prime because they're somewhat shorter in robot mode, but in alt mode they're all very close to the same scale.

But for the scale to match, the Decepticons would have to all be much larger. Leader Brawl will be closer than Deluxe Brawl to scale, but still, these military vehicles are all going to be out of whack.

I care, that's why I love the Alternators line so much, they're all 1:24 scale! It's not a huge issue for me and it doesn't prevent me from buying the figures but it is kind of annoying when I know they could make them all in the same scale and simply choose not to for whatever reason. They did pretty well with the movie Autobots but the movie Decepticons are terribly out of scale with each other.

It really only matters to me if the scale is totally bizarre, I have most of the beast machines line and the scale is all over the place.

Silverbolt is a scout, and nightscream is a leader?

bizarre