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Movie Figures and temperatures.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:01 am
by Ragnorok64
The best place for me to display my movie Autobots close to my computer, seems to be on top of my surround receiver. One thing, though, is that the reciver tends to give off a good bit of (hence the need for ventilation slots on the top. I didn't really worry about this while I had them displayed in robot mode, but in vehicle mode they have alot more bottom surface area and are more likely to trap heat. The bottom of Leader Prime's Truck mode seemed to get quite warm.

I've clocked the temperature on top of the reciever at about 96 degrees F. Is that enough to adversly effect movie toys over extended periods of time? I'd suspect they probably get hotter than that in semi trucks while being transported, but I don't want to inadvertently screw up my movie collection.

Also in general, aside form kids and pets (which I have neither of) what are some of the biggest dangers to Transformer Toys?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:05 am
by Bumbled
No offense, but some people really go nuts about their toys...

Honestly as long as the toy is below 50 degrees it'll be fine... and thats room temperature too. But of course if you leave it next to a boiling pot of water the paint might leak off.

Temperature is not worry unless you live in Egypt or Antarctica
:lol: I can just imagine toys freezing ^_^

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:53 am
by AlienQuiksilver
Bumbled wrote:No offense, but some people really go nuts about their toys...

Honestly as long as the toy is below 50 degrees it'll be fine... and thats room temperature too. But of course if you leave it next to a boiling pot of water the paint might leak off.

Temperature is not worry unless you live in Egypt or Antarctica
:lol: I can just imagine toys freezing ^_^


Below 50 degrees? transformers aren't beer man. lol :) Then again ... you may live in a fridge or something? I guess you meant 150 degrees? Typo?

Desired room temperature is actually about 70 to 75 degrees.

I've left my movie toys in my trunk for a day or 2. It gets about 145 degrees in car sitting in the summer heat. No problems at all.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:05 am
by nintendofreakgcn
I think Bumbled meant degrees Celsius (as opposed to Farenheit), since he's Australian. I think he effectively meant room temperature, though, regardless of what scale we're using.

As for my opinions on the overall matter, I'd keep those Transformers off warm (well, warmer at least) stuff, just to be on the safe side. Undoubtedly, someone else can give you a more educated opinion, though.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:38 am
by Ragnorok64
I don't think I'll have much of any problem with it, though I'll probably take the batteries out of Leader Prime and make sure to turn off the receiver when I'm not using it.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:50 am
by AlienQuiksilver
nintendofreakgcn wrote:I think Bumbled meant degrees Celsius (as opposed to Farenheit), since he's Australian. I think he effectively meant room temperature, though, regardless of what scale we're using.


Ahhhh, I get it. Pardon my ignorant American ways. :) Ya learn something new every day. My bad bumbled.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:51 am
by AlienQuiksilver
nintendofreakgcn wrote:I think Bumbled meant degrees Celsius (as opposed to Farenheit), since he's Australian. I think he effectively meant room temperature, though, regardless of what scale we're using.


Ahhhh, I get it. Pardon my ignorant American ways. :) Ya learn something new every day. My bad bumbled.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:25 am
by Creature SH
96 °F ? My room temperature is higher at (summer-)times, and my Transformers hold up fine. It's other action figures that start falling over because the joints go a little soft - But even that isn't real, permanent damage.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:52 am
by Starscream227
Creature SH wrote:96 °F ? My room temperature is higher at (summer-)times, and my Transformers hold up fine. It's other action figures that start falling over because the joints go a little soft - But even that isn't real, permanent damage.

Same situation here...My TFs do just fine, but my DBZ figures fall tend to fall here and about.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:04 pm
by Overcracker
nintendofreakgcn wrote:I think Bumbled meant degrees Celsius (as opposed to Farenheit), since he's Australian. I think he effectively meant room temperature, though, regardless of what scale we're using.

As for my opinions on the overall matter, I'd keep those Transformers off warm (well, warmer at least) stuff, just to be on the safe side. Undoubtedly, someone else can give you a more educated opinion, though.


I don't think so. 50°degrees Celsius is hotter than the dessert. about 122 Degrees Fahrenheit.
Normal Room Temperature is 20 to 23° degrees Celsius.

Still i think 50 degrees Fahrenheit is a little too cold.

In any case 95 should not be too harmful to to toys.


As for other hazards. Smoke, excessive sunlight both of which can lead to yellowing of white parts. Excessive sunlight can also weaken the plastic and cause it to crack. by that I mean having it outside in the Sahara Dessert sun for like 2 months straight.

Excessive Humidty can cause rust in metallic parts like pins and screws. But again I'm talking Amazon Forest humidity.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:06 pm
by softimus_prime
Bumbled wrote:No offense, but some people really go nuts about their toys...

Honestly as long as the toy is below 50 degrees it'll be fine... and thats room temperature too. But of course if you leave it next to a boiling pot of water the paint might leak off.

Temperature is not worry unless you live in Egypt or Antarctica
:lol: I can just imagine toys freezing ^_^


lol!!! im more worried my mom will clean my room and some of my figures are not properly arrange... and the sunlight too as i read that sunlight causes discoloration on white painted figures so i took wreckage far from the window...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:19 pm
by Lapse Of Reason
I think its kind of funny that your more concerned about your movie toys rather than your stereo receiver. Those usually cost several hundred dollars and can overheat without proper ventilation.

Simple solution? Put the toys somewhere else.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:13 pm
by Ragnorok64
Lapse Of Reason wrote:I think its kind of funny that your more concerned about your movie toys rather than your stereo receiver. Those usually cost several hundred dollars and can overheat without proper ventilation.

Simple solution? Put the toys somewhere else.


I'm not concerned with the receiver since they are made to be put in stacks of stereo equipment or inside entertainment stand typically. Both of which obstruct ventilation to a higher degree than a few Transformers will. Receivers don't even have ventilation fans built in.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:21 pm
by Sherade
Although they should be fine, I'd suggest moving 'em to be safe.
Other dangers to transformers:
Bleach
Falling/Dropping
Dust
Too much intense light.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:33 am
by Bumbled
nintendofreakgcn wrote:I think Bumbled meant degrees Celsius (as opposed to Farenheit), since he's Australian. I think he effectively meant room temperature, though, regardless of what scale we're using.
Your right in that dude... Australians use Celsius where else other countries might use Kelvin or in your case Fahrenheit.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:25 am
by DeathAura
Overcracker wrote:Excessive sunlight can also weaken the plastic and cause it to crack. by that I mean having it outside in the Sahara Dessert sun for like 2 months straight.


I live in the Phoenix, Arizona area.

It is a desert.

One summer, once upon a time, it got up to 122 degrees farenheit. I still remember it. People were outside on the news cooking eggs on the sidewalks.

Other people that were walking on cement and asphalt had to Stop doing that because their shoes were melting; you could poke your fingers through the soles of some (low quality i assume) shoe soles.

Enough sunlight and heat can do damage. Lately, it has been like 115 degrees or so, 110, and i left my Classics devestator box in my car. Unfortunately, it was in the direct sunlight. When i returned, i saw and tried to move it and discovered that the plastic window had already begun to warp in the sunlight and heat.

The figures themselves however too the punishment without any visible damage.

Another time, i had my MP megatron box out in the direct sunlight, and the box was getting so hot it was becoming a problem to even touch :/ Arizonans are used to not being able to touch stuff that has been sitting in sunlight though, but moving right along;

the more contemporary tf's seeeem to be more resilient than one would think, however, it really just comes down to which tf's you're talking about. You cannot be sure that the same type of plastic is used for every single piece of xyz transformer. I have only seen discoloration on action masters and g1 figures however.

Ultimately, if we go down to a chemical level, the heat would add energy to the atoms that make up the toy, expanding their electron clouds. This would cause the atoms to expand and require more space to occupy. If the plastic was rigid/brittle, this would create cracks/fissures due to the expansion and contraction of the plastic, which sounds like something that needs to happen more than once, but i could be wrong. Or, by adding heat, the chemical composition of the dyes/pigments could be altered by the same process, resulting in something that would reflect a different wavelength of light instead of its target one. (ugly cream/tan-ish color instead of purple for instance.)

I am not sure yet as to where the line is between heat damage and sunlight damage however.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:25 am
by Bumbled
Lol yer direct sun light... if it wasn't it could have been saved (your classics Devestator) :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:29 am
by Toyotus Superion
Bumbled wrote:No offense, but some people really go nuts about their toys...

Honestly as long as the toy is below 50 degrees it'll be fine... and thats room temperature too. But of course if you leave it next to a boiling pot of water the paint might leak off.

Temperature is not worry unless you live in Egypt or Antarctica
:lol: I can just imagine toys freezing ^_^


I'm with you on this one BumbleD lol. I mean really, temperature? Unless the toy is in direct sunlight for YEARS there isnt much to worry about. Unless u plan on keeping them on an open grill or something lol

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:32 am
by Bumbled
Yer lol, I think most people thought the same... I think :lol:

Yer I mean, temperature stop scaring me... I don't want my toy to melt... sure if it was in the boot as some people say or in a hot blazing cabinet on a hot sunny day then yes... you can say bye bye to your toy. But c'mon room temp?