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My Final Unicron Trilogy Checklist, any infomation as to where to buy cheaply would be helpful.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:57 pm
by skywarp-2
Ok so, since I'm Back tracking and obtaining Figures from the Armada/Energon/Galaxy, or commonly referred to as the Unicron Trilogy.. I have compiled the lists of Figures i am looking for.. and believe me it's gonna be a long haul for me, considering I own next to none of these guys..

But possibly with your help I can and may find some really good deals so that my collection of these from their series can grow and I can finally put to rest my collector angst. The notes are things, with suggestions fans made, I wrote to myself when I decide to shop for those items so I can refer back to them..

So here goes, and I will cookie ;)^ those that I have already acquired..which isn't much... :-(

Unicron Trilogy:
Transformers Armada/Micron legend:

1.Optimus Prime-US release.. ;)^ have but want an MISB version...
2.Magna Convoy-Toys R Us Japanese Exclusive ( I own waiting on shipment) ;)^
3.Galvatron
4.Powerlinx Jetfire ;)^
5. Powerlinx Hotshot
6. Starscream (Jap colours are nicer, all the recolours and remoulds bar possibly Universe Ramjet are worth looking at);)^ have but want MISB version as well...
7. Thundercracker
8. Skywarp
9. Deluxe Prime they are soo cute!! ;)^ Have but want MISB version..
10.The Micron Legends Rampage (Japanese Wheeljack)
11. UNICRON!!! (essential, 'nough said)
12. Tidal Wave
13. Predacon
14. Hasbro Nemesis Prime../ Takara Nemesis(Scourge)
That will cover my essentials for that series..


Notes:

"The Deluxe Prime from Armada is one of the best moulds to date. Its Cybertron Repaint is very nicely detailed, and will probably be easier and cheaper to get (although you wont get his minicon partner, instead you'll get a Cyberkey)."

"Micron Legend Shockwave has show accurate purple coloring as opposed to the green on Armada Tidal Wave.
In the Armada Series there was a Nemesis repaint of that same deluxe figure, which looks pretty cool except for the Tan colored grill. The Takara Nemesis(Scourge) is better looking, with the silver instead of Tan."

Transformers Energon/Superlink:


1. Leader class Optimus Prime
2. Wingsaber
3. Quickstrike
4. DownShift
5. Megatron (I prefer the smaller Jap version and with Megs this also has nicer colors)
6. Galvatron (the US Galvatron has the better colors despite being an oversized toy)
7. Starscream (I'd go for the US remold if possible)
8. Dreadwing
9. Scorponok,
10. Command Ravage
11. Divebomb /Shadow Hawk
12. Alpha Q
13. Landmine
14. Cruellock Magma Type
15. Dark Unicron
16. Omega Sentinel
17. Ultra Magnus
18. Mega Dinobot, Grimlock and Swoop combiner

Notes:
Energon Prime Got 2 releases, the Leader Class that combines with his Prime units or Wingsaber or Omega Sentinel aka Omega Supreme (Repaint)
and his Deluxe Version that combines with any of the Energon Autobots .

"Most people don't like the Leader class because it looks like something from a Power Rangers series. Combined With Wing Saber however he looks Pretty Good. His combination with Omega Supreme or Sentinel, doesn't really add anything to the figure. Its basically just prime encased in Omegas' body. with only his head popping out at the top."

Transformers Cybertron/ Galaxy Force:

1. Leader Prime (awesome);)^
2. Cryo Scourge or Fire Convoy/Scourge in the US
3. Starscream, ( Supreme and the Japanese issue)
4. Vector Prime (White, or Galaxy Force Repaint) Get the Galaxy Force original..
5. Hot Shot/Excillion,
6. Breakdown
7. Soundwave,
8. Evac,
9. PRIMUS!!!
10. Master Galvatron
12. Override GTS
13. Metroplex
14. Jetfire/ Skyshadow
15. Wingsaber
16. Leo Breaker/Nemesis Breaker
17. Mudflap
18. Red Alert
19. Quick Mix
20. Menasor
21. Scattershot
22. Sideways
23. Unicron/ Tank version
24. Cannonball
25. Dark Crumple zone

As you can see, I have a ways to go. Any stores or auctions you see, with killer deals, please either PM me or list here.. I would greatly appreciate the help..:grin:

Thanks..
-Adam-

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:05 pm
by decepticonjon
i have the takara nemesis prime with all silver, no tan..
lemme know.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:08 pm
by skywarp-2
decepticonjon wrote:i have the takara nemesis prime with all silver, no tan..
lemme know.


Ooo sweet.. PM me how much...?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:09 pm
by Dead Metal
Making a list right now!
Energon Starsaber, but didn't I pm you a link to one?

Sorry about the Batsie, He's nowere to be found :shock:

Re: My Final Unicron Trilogy Checklist, any infomation as to where to buy cheaply would be helpful.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:11 pm
by waaaaghlord
skywarp-2 wrote:5. Megatron (I prefer the smaller Jap version and with Megs this also has nicer colors)
6. Galvatron (the US Galvatron has the better colors despite being an oversized toy)


Between the Magna Convoy thing and this you seem to have really taken my imput from the trilogy threads on board. Nice one S2, it's good to know that at least some of the views I put out onto these forums are appreciated and taken on by boardmates. Of course some of the time I'm a bit out there...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:12 pm
by skywarp-2
Dead Metal wrote:Making a list right now!
Energon Starsaber, but didn't I pm you a link to one?

Sorry about the Batsie, He's nowere to be found :shock:


I'm not sure about the Star Saber, but I'll go back and check on the e-mails.. I think that was there..

Yeah that takara batman is the most sought after collectible from takara in the super hero department.. he and Hot Toys Superman returns are impossible to find.. at lest without being half a grand that is..

Re: My Final Unicron Trilogy Checklist, any infomation as to where to buy cheaply would be helpful.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:16 pm
by skywarp-2
waaaaghlord wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:5. Megatron (I prefer the smaller Jap version and with Megs this also has nicer colors)
6. Galvatron (the US Galvatron has the better colors despite being an oversized toy)


Between the Magna Convoy thing and this you seem to have really taken my imput from the trilogy threads on board. Nice one S2, it's good to know that at least some of the views I put out onto these forums are appreciated and taken on by boardmates. Of course some of the time I'm a bit out there...


aren't we all out there at times.. I mean we are over the suggested kids age for these toys, we collect them and discuss them as rigorously as older men in their 60s discuss politics and health care...:grin:

But Yeah I researched your suggestions and found them very useful.. and those Unicron trilogy threads I was doing really helped me, based on fan feedback, the images and so on..

I didn't really come up with this list.. it was you guys.. the fandom helped me..Thanks..

Now if you can help me find them, at a reasonable rate, then that would be awesome!! :DANCE:

Re: My Final Unicron Trilogy Checklist, any infomation as to where to buy cheaply would be helpful.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:21 pm
by waaaaghlord
skywarp-2 wrote:I mean we are over the suggested kids age for these toys


Even 20th Prime says 3+ on the box. I think everyone who posts here manages to fit in the over 3 category :P

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:26 pm
by Counterpunch
A lot of those toys you just will not find deals on.

Just, warning you really...

BBTS does have Magma type Cruellock for about $20 though...

And Micron Legends Thundercracker is there on back order.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:35 pm
by skywarp-2
Counterpunch wrote:A lot of those toys you just will not find deals on.

Just, warning you really...

BBTS does have Magma type Cruellock for about $20 though...

And Micron Legends Thundercracker is there on back order.


cool thanks for the tip.. I expected to not find deals on those guys, but what I consider reasonable is what like 50.00 for a scorponok or something like that.. an exclusive I could see being around 150.00, unless its super rare or Botcon material, leader class Primes generally run in the 50.00s, Megatrons are generally in 40s to 50s.. but the Japanese releases I get lucky and find them around 40.00..so its all good..,I'm going by eBay standards..but if there are any who are looking to sell off some in MISB or MIB condition, then that's cool with me.. I'll keep looking for myself too ofcourse.. but if you guys run across something that is easy to get, and you already have one, please keep me in mind is all I ask..

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:05 pm
by SnapTrap
If you want to get good deals, you really need to shop around. Granted it will be harder since the TF movie has spiked the value of the figures. Some places to look:
•eBay; you might stumble on a seller that doesn't know that they have something valuable at the moment. Also you can usually get more bang for your buck buying a group of figures in one auction.
•Online toystores—there are tons out there, some may be trying to get rid of old TF merchandise they do not want because it hasn't sold in years. This is a great way to find deals on figures.
•Check 2nd hand stores and vintage antique/toystores. Sometimes you can find a hidden gem that is reasonably priced.
•Comic Book stores might be a good place to look (though 98% of the time it isn't)
•Flea Markets—have to be careful here, a better chance of finding a KO than a vintage figure but if you educate yourself on what to look for and how to tell the knockoffs from the real deal then you will be ok.
•Local toy shows/comic book shows/conventions may have some good finds. Go to these if in your area. Sometimes you find the guy with tons of loose figures in those big plastic bins. Rummage through them for an hour or two and you can end up finding most of the parts to the loose figures at the bottom of the bin. You can score some really cheap finds this way. Also haggle with the seller. You can usually get them to lower the price a bit. I found a bunch of my Beast Wars figures (from the first season) that I missed this way.
•Family/Friends that aren't into TF but had them as a kid. They might still have them in a box up in the attic/garage
•Look everywhere—sometimes stores that you wouldn't think of having something (mainly vintage shops and 2nd hand stores)
•Be patient—remember that you have lots of time to find these figures so if you feel the figure is too overpriced, skip it. You will find one at the right price eventually.

The other important tip is to become knowledgable in what you are shopping for. There is nothing worse than feeling you got ripped off because the figure is missing parts when in fact you didn't research it enough. I'm guilty of this when I was starting out buying vintage G1 figures on eBay. Hope these tips help.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:46 pm
by skywarp-2
SnapTrap wrote:If you want to get good deals, you really need to shop around. Granted it will be harder since the TF movie has spiked the value of the figures. Some places to look:
•eBay; you might stumble on a seller that doesn't know that they have something valuable at the moment. Also you can usually get more bang for your buck buying a group of figures in one auction.
•Online toystores—there are tons out there, some may be trying to get rid of old TF merchandise they do not want because it hasn't sold in years. This is a great way to find deals on figures.
•Check 2nd hand stores and vintage antique/toystores. Sometimes you can find a hidden gem that is reasonably priced.
•Comic Book stores might be a good place to look (though 98% of the time it isn't)
•Flea Markets—have to be careful here, a better chance of finding a KO than a vintage figure but if you educate yourself on what to look for and how to tell the knockoffs from the real deal then you will be ok.
•Local toy shows/comic book shows/conventions may have some good finds. Go to these if in your area. Sometimes you find the guy with tons of loose figures in those big plastic bins. Rummage through them for an hour or two and you can end up finding most of the parts to the loose figures at the bottom of the bin. You can score some really cheap finds this way. Also haggle with the seller. You can usually get them to lower the price a bit. I found a bunch of my Beast Wars figures (from the first season) that I missed this way.
•Family/Friends that aren't into TF but had them as a kid. They might still have them in a box up in the attic/garage
•Look everywhere—sometimes stores that you wouldn't think of having something (mainly vintage shops and 2nd hand stores)
•Be patient—remember that you have lots of time to find these figures so if you feel the figure is too overpriced, skip it. You will find one at the right price eventually.

The other important tip is to become knowledgable in what you are shopping for. There is nothing worse than feeling you got ripped off because the figure is missing parts when in fact you didn't research it enough. I'm guilty of this when I was starting out buying vintage G1 figures on eBay. Hope these tips help.


Actually they did.. that gave me patience.. I needed that.. sometimes as a fan or collector trying to catch up on the line that he missed is frantic.. because you keep thinking.. the price is going up an up and up minute by minute..like a huge cash register in my face with items floating around my head, and in my head going ching! ching! ching!! an I know that isn't the case.. but that kind of thinking is what gives the impulse buyer that huge aching wallet pain..I don't want to go there any time soon.. so I'm glad for the advice.. it had a calming effect on my super collector libido!!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:23 pm
by kirbenvost
Wow, my friend, that is quite the list. I got onboard halfway through Energon, am completely skipping Armada, and am rather picky when it comes to figures, so I haven't had nearly as much to catch up on, but it's been a crazy couple of years.

My suggestions are to keep an eye out for used figures, if you don't mind not having the boxes. I personally open every single one of my figures, so for regular line stuff I don't care if it's missing the box because I throw it out anyway.

So if your local hobby/comic stores ever get used figures in, keep an eye out, and watch Carbombya like a hawk. I also find that googling "(instert TF name) for sale" can lead to some surprising deals.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:36 pm
by Raymond101
I wish I had Override GTS, Thunderblast, and Excellion.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:48 pm
by skywarp-2
Raymond101 wrote:I wish I had Override GTS, Thunderblast, and Excellion.


I found a MISB Override GTS for 20.00, and the rest you just listed, and more for 9.99 MISB!! hells yeah!! Private seller...

Re: My Final Unicron Trilogy Checklist, any infomation as to where to buy cheaply would be helpful.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:13 pm
by SnapTrap
skywarp-2 wrote:[b]Notes:
Energon Prime Got 2 releases, the Leader Class that combines with his Prime units or Wingsaber or Omega Sentinel aka Omega Supreme (Repaint)
and his Deluxe Version that combines with any of the Energon Autobots


One note with the Leader class Optimus Prime; there were actually two versions of Prime. The first release of Prime has a hole in the face plate where you can see his mouth (it looks more like he ate through it though) and the more common one with the classic face plate. I don't remember if the mouthy Prime is more rare but he was definately less popular of the two.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:43 pm
by Raymond101
Wow where do you get all the money to buy so much? I'm still saving up for a couple of crummy movie Deluxes after buying Leader Prime and Ratchet. :sad:

But on the other hand, I want ot find the cheapest possible price for Thunderblast and Override GTS too.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:07 pm
by i_amtrunks
Raymond101 wrote:Wow where do you get all the money to buy so much? I'm still saving up for a couple of crummy movie Deluxes after buying Leader Prime and Ratchet. :sad:

But on the other hand, I want ot find the cheapest possible price for Thunderblast and Override GTS too.


It is amazing how much of your budget can go on Transformers.
I've never gotten close to the point of missing food, or the mortgage, but I'm sure there are some here who have.

I have had weeks where I have spent over $200 on Transformers, and had no $$ for going out. Not smoking and not being much of a drinker certainly helps in the $$$ department though.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:15 pm
by Raymond101
My total expenditure on my total Transformers collection so far is $363 AUS. wow I'm softcore compared to most of the guys on here, but still, it's a fair bit of money. I'm just happy I haven't wasted money on a single figure (I don't regret any purchase I have made so far).

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:36 pm
by skywarp-2
I spent a good $1,000.00 when the movie figs came out... and I also out of that money got Beast Wars, and Beast Wars Neo.. and RID Optimus and Magnus..That took me awhile to compile...

But I do have a nice collection, and it's amazing how thrift buying and having the money saved up can get you alot of figures placing the ones you were missing..

My list isn't a complete "I'm going to get these right away thing"..

I'm gonna be buying stuff slowly off this list over time.. and I do Smoke so I will have to scrimp on that a bit.. overall.. one day that check list will be complete.. But that is why I did it.. so I have a goal, and know what I need to look for and find it in a flash and at a good price...

Re: My Final Unicron Trilogy Checklist, any infomation as to where to buy cheaply would be helpful.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:43 am
by bvzxa
skywarp-2 wrote:Ok so, since I'm Back tracking and obtaining Figures from the Armada/Energon/Galaxy, or commonly referred to as the Unicron Trilogy.. I have compiled the lists of Figures i am looking for.. and believe me it's gonna be a long haul for me, considering I own next to none of these guys..

But possibly with your help I can and may find some really good deals so that my collection of these from their series can grow and I can finally put to rest my collector angst. The notes are things, with suggestions fans made, I wrote to myself when I decide to shop for those items so I can refer back to them..

So here goes, and I will cookie ;)^ those that I have already acquired..which isn't much... :-(

Unicron Trilogy:
Transformers Armada/Micron legend:

1.Optimus Prime-US release.. ;)^ have but want an MISB version...
2.Magna Convoy-Toys R Us Japanese Exclusive ( I own waiting on shipment) ;)^
3.Galvatron
4.Powerlinx Jetfire ;)^
5. Powerlinx Hotshot
6. Starscream (Jap colours are nicer, all the recolours and remoulds bar possibly Universe Ramjet are worth looking at);)^ have but want MISB version as well...
7. Thundercracker
8. Skywarp
9. Deluxe Prime they are soo cute!! ;)^ Have but want MISB version..
10.The Micron Legends Rampage (Japanese Wheeljack)
11. UNICRON!!! (essential, 'nough said)
12. Tidal Wave
13. Predacon
14. Hasbro Nemesis Prime../ Takara Nemesis(Scourge)
That will cover my essentials for that series..


Notes:

"The Deluxe Prime from Armada is one of the best moulds to date. Its Cybertron Repaint is very nicely detailed, and will probably be easier and cheaper to get (although you wont get his minicon partner, instead you'll get a Cyberkey)."

"Micron Legend Shockwave has show accurate purple coloring as opposed to the green on Armada Tidal Wave.
In the Armada Series there was a Nemesis repaint of that same deluxe figure, which looks pretty cool except for the Tan colored grill. The Takara Nemesis(Scourge) is better looking, with the silver instead of Tan."

Transformers Energon/Superlink:


1. Leader class Optimus Prime
2. Wingsaber
3. Quickstrike
4. DownShift
5. Megatron (I prefer the smaller Jap version and with Megs this also has nicer colors)
6. Galvatron (the US Galvatron has the better colors despite being an oversized toy)
7. Starscream (I'd go for the US remold if possible)
8. Dreadwing
9. Scorponok,
10. Command Ravage
11. Divebomb /Shadow Hawk
12. Alpha Q
13. Landmine
14. Cruellock Magma Type
15. Dark Unicron
16. Omega Sentinel
17. Ultra Magnus
18. Mega Dinobot, Grimlock and Swoop combiner

Notes:
Energon Prime Got 2 releases, the Leader Class that combines with his Prime units or Wingsaber or Omega Sentinel aka Omega Supreme (Repaint)
and his Deluxe Version that combines with any of the Energon Autobots .

"Most people don't like the Leader class because it looks like something from a Power Rangers series. Combined With Wing Saber however he looks Pretty Good. His combination with Omega Supreme or Sentinel, doesn't really add anything to the figure. Its basically just prime encased in Omegas' body. with only his head popping out at the top."

Transformers Cybertron/ Galaxy Force:

1. Leader Prime (awesome);)^
2. Cryo Scourge or Fire Convoy/Scourge in the US
3. Starscream, ( Supreme and the Japanese issue)
4. Vector Prime (White, or Galaxy Force Repaint) Get the Galaxy Force original..
5. Hot Shot/Excillion,
6. Breakdown
7. Soundwave,
8. Evac,
9. PRIMUS!!!
10. Master Galvatron
12. Override GTS
13. Metroplex
14. Jetfire/ Skyshadow
15. Wingsaber
16. Leo Breaker/Nemesis Breaker
17. Mudflap
18. Red Alert
19. Quick Mix
20. Menasor
21. Scattershot
22. Sideways
23. Unicron/ Tank version
24. Cannonball
25. Dark Crumple zone

As you can see, I have a ways to go. Any stores or auctions you see, with killer deals, please either PM me or list here.. I would greatly appreciate the help..:grin:

Thanks..
-Adam-


As for Energon Prime, Mouthy Prime is now the hardest to find, becuase of the complaints in the first run.
The Japanese version to me looks better, but the bling-bling when transfoeming him with the combiners irks me. Also the electronics on the US prime is better. In Japan, I belive there is no mouthy version.

Micron Legend Starcream is slightly remolded with the wings, his detachable wing does look like a sword more than the Armada version.

As for Starcream, and Superlink nightscream, I like the Superlink version, becuase the colors were closer to G1, without having to do a full repaint like they did for the second release of Starcream in energon. Also Reverse Nightscream has extra weapons...a bonus that the US second release does not have.

If you check Remy's website, I count at lease three diffrent versions of Nemisis Prime. And it gets expensive for the black n white box exclusive.


Dark Unicron, is supposed to be limited to 8000 worldwide, or 10,000 not sure, he is an exclusive in Japan...supposedly.

Downshift for energon is absolutley the best. More green in the joints for our release, an odd grayish joint color for the Superlink release, he's an exclusive in Galaxy force...released as an import over in Japan.

And I see you don't have Shockblast/Laserwave on your list??

He's really cool.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:56 am
by City Commander
i_amtrunks wrote:
Raymond101 wrote:Wow where do you get all the money to buy so much? I'm still saving up for a couple of crummy movie Deluxes after buying Leader Prime and Ratchet. :sad:

But on the other hand, I want ot find the cheapest possible price for Thunderblast and Override GTS too.


It is amazing how much of your budget can go on Transformers.
I've never gotten close to the point of missing food, or the mortgage, but I'm sure there are some here who have.

I have had weeks where I have spent over $200 on Transformers, and had no $$ for going out. Not smoking and not being much of a drinker certainly helps in the $$$ department though.


Amen. That crap just takes money away from precious transformer buying! :D

My list of back buying is somewhat more subued, and a lot shorter.

I'm just after:


ENERGON

Wingsaber
Storm Jet
Treadshot
Skyshadow

CYBERTRON

Metroplex

Thankfully, I can get Metroplex in stores when he goes on clearance, so it's just going round and finding deals on the other four for now


And then I'm still after the RiD bullet train team.


Alas, I have to wait to buy any of these for a month or two now. I needs to wait till more disposable income comes shifting it's way in :?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:30 am
by skywarp-2
The Master Blaster wrote: Alas, I have to wait to buy any of these for a month or two now. I needs to wait till more disposable income comes shifting it's way in :?


Don't we all...don't we all..... :(