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What transformer is the biggest waste of plastic?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:38 pm
by shortround
Here are my rules for what qualifys:

1. If you found it in a dumpster in mint condition in the back of wal-mart, toys r us, target or even fred meyers you wouldn't take it home.

2. If your friend gave this figure to you. You would then tell him were he could stick this figure.

Those are my rules go ahead and let me and world or at least the forum what figure you think makes the cut.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:48 pm
by LowVolticus
Any Pretender.

Maybe Twin Twist. I remember having him as a kid and hating how utterly useless he was. The roll back and flip got real old real quick.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:53 pm
by autobot commander
supreme cheetor

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:53 pm
by Blurrz
Energon Optimus Prime. Arghhhhhhhh
Beast Machines Cheetor... dsafskdhlfdsjfkhdasflkjadsfsda

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:04 pm
by Dispensor
Supreme Cheetor and all armada figures.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:15 pm
by Blurrz
Dispensor wrote:and all armada figures.


Wah.... what? Care to explain?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:17 pm
by Dispensor
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:and all armada figures.


Wah.... what? Care to explain?


Zero articulation, poor detail, lame extra gimmicks.

Maybe Thrust was good, and some of the minicons, but that's about it.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:17 pm
by PrimeSuspect
Blurrz wrote:Energon Optimus Prime. Arghhhhhhhh


:cry:

B-but... he was show accurate... and one of the best Playformers ever....

:cry:

Why the hate?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:41 pm
by Blurrz
Dispensor wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:and all armada figures.


Wah.... what? Care to explain?


Zero articulation, poor detail, lame extra gimmicks.

Maybe Thrust was good, and some of the minicons, but that's about it.


I know there were bad ones like Hot Shot and Prime, and horrible ones like Sideswipe, but many of figures of the Armada line were great, including Tidal Wave, who happens to usually go over $70 on Ebay if it's MISB. Unicron was awesomesauce, and Wheeljack was a great Deluxe. So saying all the armada figures are a complete waste of plastic is a little bit of an overstatement, IMO.

PrimeSuspect wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Energon Optimus Prime. Arghhhhhhhh


:cry:

B-but... he was show accurate... and one of the best Playformers ever....

:cry:

Why the hate?


The one I had in my possession couldn't stand on it's own two feet. And what was with all of those combiner vehicles that came with it?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:55 pm
by Dispensor
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:and all armada figures.


Wah.... what? Care to explain?


Zero articulation, poor detail, lame extra gimmicks.

Maybe Thrust was good, and some of the minicons, but that's about it.


I know there were bad ones like Hot Shot and Prime, and horrible ones like Sideswipe, but many of figures of the Armada line were great, including Tidal Wave, who happens to usually go over $70 on Ebay if it's MISB. Unicron was awesomesauce, and Wheeljack was a great Deluxe. So saying all the armada figures are a complete waste of plastic is a little bit of an overstatement, IMO.


The Armada version of Unicron was completely ugly. The Energon repaint, the one I bought, was much better.

Also, Wheeljack was a gross misuse of his name for a mediocre figure, and Tidle Wave really didn't look like anything in either mode.

Of course, this is all just IMO.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:58 pm
by bran10
frenzy that came with barricade :D but, I never liked energon, armada, or cybertron. it was always alternators, movie, classics beast era and g1 for me

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:37 am
by tentagil
Dispensor wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:and all armada figures.


Wah.... what? Care to explain?


Zero articulation, poor detail, lame extra gimmicks.

Maybe Thrust was good, and some of the minicons, but that's about it.


I know there were bad ones like Hot Shot and Prime, and horrible ones like Sideswipe, but many of figures of the Armada line were great, including Tidal Wave, who happens to usually go over $70 on Ebay if it's MISB. Unicron was awesomesauce, and Wheeljack was a great Deluxe. So saying all the armada figures are a complete waste of plastic is a little bit of an overstatement, IMO.


The Armada version of Unicron was completely ugly. The Energon repaint, the one I bought, was much better.

Also, Wheeljack was a gross misuse of his name for a mediocre figure, and Tidle Wave really didn't look like anything in either mode.

Of course, this is all just IMO.


I'm find the Energon Unicron to be hideous, he's like a rave kiddie. Armadacron has a deco that looks more like the original which I like.

Not a fan of the name used but the A-Wheeljack is a decent one. Looks cool, and has about as much if not more articulation then 90% of G1.

And Tidal Wave is probably my favorite figure of the last six years. Again the Armada coloring over the Energon. Really don't understand what the appeal of dark colors with day glo green lighting decos is.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:49 am
by Bigdaddymcqueen
sorry but IMO the movie version Scorpinok is a waste of plastic!! probably because i really like the energon version!!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:08 am
by Dispensor
tentagil wrote:
Dispensor wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:
Blurrz wrote:
Dispensor wrote:and all armada figures.


Wah.... what? Care to explain?


Zero articulation, poor detail, lame extra gimmicks.

Maybe Thrust was good, and some of the minicons, but that's about it.


I know there were bad ones like Hot Shot and Prime, and horrible ones like Sideswipe, but many of figures of the Armada line were great, including Tidal Wave, who happens to usually go over $70 on Ebay if it's MISB. Unicron was awesomesauce, and Wheeljack was a great Deluxe. So saying all the armada figures are a complete waste of plastic is a little bit of an overstatement, IMO.


The Armada version of Unicron was completely ugly. The Energon repaint, the one I bought, was much better.

Also, Wheeljack was a gross misuse of his name for a mediocre figure, and Tidle Wave really didn't look like anything in either mode.

Of course, this is all just IMO.


I'm find the Energon Unicron to be hideous, he's like a rave kiddie. Armadacron has a deco that looks more like the original which I like.

Not a fan of the name used but the A-Wheeljack is a decent one. Looks cool, and has about as much if not more articulation then 90% of G1.

And Tidal Wave is probably my favorite figure of the last six years. Again the Armada coloring over the Energon. Really don't understand what the appeal of dark colors with day glo green lighting decos is.


Unicron had horrible paint application and a dull color scheme in general. The hideous translucent gray plastic looked bad against the cheese orange. Energon Unicron, on the other hand, had lovely paint apps, even though neon green against black is old by now. The translucent plastic was more eye catching. An overall nicer looking figure.

Regarding Wheeljack, you're speaking of it like being as articulated as a G1 figure is a good thing.

Tidal Wave's alt. mode(s) don't look like anything. Not much of a disguise... a purple and neon green group of floaty things vaguely resembling boats. As articulated as a brick, as all combiner's tend to be, but each individual piece doesn't even have a robot mode, so there's no trade-off.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:39 am
by Silver Galvatron
Any beastbots, dinobots. Never liked transforming animals.


Transformers still rocks.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:46 am
by Deceptiwho?
Cybertron Primus unleashed APEMAN OPTIMUS PRIME!!!! F that figure :-x

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:23 am
by City Commander
Even if I hated the figure, I'd still take it home.

A profit can be turned with any lump of crap- one man's rubbish is another man's gold.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:07 am
by vidmouse
Energon Megatron... didn't see the point after they did the Galvatron repaint.

And don't fool yourself into thinking they didn't have the repaint in mind already when they made E. Megatron. 8)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:10 am
by Justicity
The Master Blaster wrote:Even if I hated the figure, I'd still take it home.

A profit can be turned with any lump of crap- one man's rubbish is another man's gold.

Too True!
And to be honest my collections so small at the moment I'd gladly (legally) take anything for free to build it up ^^

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:13 am
by Bumblebee78
Armada Sideswipe

The car mode is OK but the robot mode is...seriously lacking. I have no idea why they decided to use the same mold again (Universe and Cybertron) when there are so much better toys out there.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:02 am
by DoubleOScorpio
Bumblebee78 wrote:Armada Sideswipe

The car mode is OK but the robot mode is...seriously lacking. I have no idea why they decided to use the same mold again (Universe and Cybertron) when there are so much better toys out there.


I've often wondered the same thing. I bought Cyb Runamuck without doing research (checking Seibs galleries or TFU.info) b/c the alt mode looked like a Fox-Body Mustang (late 80's style). Too bad the bot mode is so awful. It's really a shame....

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:34 am
by Kimmer
all the movie garbage.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:43 am
by DISCHARGE
Biggest waste of plastic on a Transformer.
That's easy:

Deployers

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:54 am
by Transformation619
LowVolticus wrote:Any Pretender.

Maybe Twin Twist. I remember having him as a kid and hating how utterly useless he was. The roll back and flip got real old real quick.


YES, Pretenders are a waste of plastic, but movie mini scorponok and frenzy the one in barricade)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:11 am
by tom brokaw
cybertron deluxe megatron and leader brawl