The Energon Pub

So for those of you who hope to keep your Leader Class figures MISB... how do you intend to deal with the batteries once they go dead? Will you leave your Leader Prime, Megs, and Brawl entombed for all eternity in their boxes despite the inevitable AA battery corrosion?

For this fact alone, I anticipate having to open my Leader figures eventually someday to replace their batteries...

you know i often ponder this same question.but will the dead batteries harm the figures in any way?if someone out there who keeps ther figures misb has had a dead battery ruin there figure can you please respond?

tommy tek wrote:you know i often ponder this same question.but will the dead batteries harm the figures in any way?if someone out there who keeps ther figures misb has had a dead battery ruin there figure can you please respond?

After the batteries are long dead... they will eventually leak battery acid and have a white corrosive crust form around the battery itself and leave a residue in the battery compartment...

Batteries are not meant to last or be stored forever... that battery acid is gonna leak eventually.

so if you just take out the figure and remove the batteries will this decline the value of the tf's in the long run?or will it remain the same value because you didnt want to ruin the figs i ask this because i have all the leaders misb and 2 ultimate bumblebees one in the round cylinder and one in the square box in misb i would suck if the batteries ruined thes figures.

Having a MISB Leader class figure 25 years from now is an unlikely possibility.

If someone sells you a Leader class figure 25 years from now, and they swear that it has never been opened, they are either lying or the original batteries are really still inside, possibly leaking and corroding up the battery compartment - but you wouldnt know because you never opened it up.

Typically, alkaline batteries will not leak under normal storage and usage conditions. However, the potential for leakage is significantly increased if batteries are subjected to charging, mixing of battery chemistries, mixing of fresh and used batteries, physical damage, extended exposure to high temperature or deep discharging.

Energizer® MAX® has a shelf life of up to seven years in the package. Of course, they perform better in your clock than in your closet.

I have no idea what brand are the stock batteries that Hasbro has included in these Leader figs at the Chinese factory... since I haven't opened up my figures yet... but I'm not willing to risk my Leader figs on whether or not a AA battery will hold up over time. I would rather open it up and enjoy them than to leave the Leaders in box forever.

It's plain physics and chemistry... you can't avoid it... unless by some miracle the batteries remain intact (and being regular AA batteries, I highly doubt that will be possible).


I suppose it may be possible to have a MISB Leader class figure... and pray that the batteries stayed intact after many many years... but I would think that it is more valuable to have a Leader class figure mint in carefully opened box than a battery acid jacked up and corroded Leader class figure sealed in box.

yep i agree with you i have all the leaders out of the box and all the leaders in the box i always buy 2 or more of every figure for the purpose of playing with one and another for displaying purposes and one more foe selling it a long time from now.

i have a feeling these are going to be worth a hell of alot of money there the toys to the first time ever full length featured transformers movie ever so that right there is a mile stone in tf history.and just think when part 2 comes out that means new fans as new toys witch means the new fans will be wanting to get there hands on part 1 toys.i have a feeling these will sky rocket and if any of us are smart well hold on to a good collection for that purpose.

So let's talk about VALUE. I'm asking experienced MISB collectors here:

How would the value of the MISBs be affected if you never opened it, and the batteries went dead?

I know that if it's an MISb and someone else buys it for MISB, he won't open it and so the batteries may not be an issue. However...

1. Once the Try Me fails to work, people know the batteries have gone dead, and the process of leakage and corrosion have probably taken place. So the knowledge that it's not a perfect toy... will that affect it?

2. I understand the value of MISB is that it's just like a new toy. Well, I would imagine that for the Leader toys that includes still being able to push down on that Try Me lever and have something interesting happen. just like NEW. Once the batteries are gone, and nothing happens, it's not exactly MISB is it?

I don't suppose there's any way in hell one could remove enough of the ties to get at the battery compartment, remove the batteries, then replace the ties?

Prime's pipes are probably going to dry rot too. They're not built for the long haul.

i really dont think a MISB Leader Prime will be worth much more than it is now even in 30 years time. There's just too many of them being stored away by collectors for it to be rare.

Hasbro has put in GP batteries on my leader prime.

darockk wrote:i really dont think a MISB Leader Prime will be worth much more than it is now even in 30 years time. There's just too many of them being stored away by collectors for it to be rare.

Correct bro.

Thats why the Transformers MASTERPIECE line is much more ideal for investment than the Leader Movie bec.

1. Its Very Limited production.
2. Has Metal Parts ( Much higher Value than "All plastic" )
3. Dont Have Batteries (so you can really keep it MISB for years to come)

G1 was mass produced, look at what some of those figs are pulling in. I'm sure there were just as many collectors back then, too.

I have my MISB collection. I don't expect it to skyrocket in value, but hey ... I have it just in case it does.

I"m not going to sell anyway, so it's a moot point for me.

skyline wrote:

darockk wrote:i really dont think a MISB Leader Prime will be worth much more than it is now even in 30 years time. There's just too many of them being stored away by collectors for it to be rare.

Correct bro.

Thats why the Transformers MASTERPIECE line is much more ideal for investment than the Leader Movie bec.

1. Its Very Limited production.
2. Has Metal Parts ( Much higher Value than "All plastic" )
3. Dont Have Batteries (so you can really keep it MISB for years to come)

The masterpiece seekers are all plastic. At least Skywarp is. I see your point with Megs and Prime, but what about 20th anniversary prime? He has just as much die cast as MP Prime, so will he be valued the same in years to come? I don't think so. 20th Primes definitely take the taco in mass production, so ... there is that.

MP Prime has batteries to light up the matrix in his chest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20th prime has this feature ... they are pretty much the same mold.

You make valid points, but they're a bit too flawed to be used as blanket statements.

AlienQuiksilver wrote:G1 was mass produced, look at what some of those figs are pulling in. I'm sure there were just as many collectors back then, too.

I have my MISB collection. I don't expect it to skyrocket in value, but hey ... I have it just in case it does.

I"m not going to sell anyway, so it's a moot point for me.

Very true about G1 but I still think that production numbers back then versus production numbers now are probably quite different. Hasbro and other companies are able to churn out and distribute massive numbers of figures and products versus what they could 25 years ago. Will a MISB Leader Prime be worth something in 25-50 years, sure. Will it increase in value as some of the older toys, probably not.

I agree with the earlier post, the Masterpieces are probably going to increase more in value. However, they did remark about no batteries which isn't true. Both MP Prime and Megs both light up.

AlienQuiksilver wrote:MP Prime has batteries to light up the matrix in his chest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20th prime has this feature ... they are pretty much the same mold.

Yep, MP-01, MP-02 and MP-04 have a little button battery to "light our darkest hour". I took the one in mine out when I transformed him for the second time (car ->robot).

Although with the MPs you might be in less trouble, if those leak it should only damage the Matrix box, you'd just have to find a new one.

(I was so scare when the Matrix box popped off during my first transformation, but at least it let me have a look at how I'm supposed to move that thing.)

AlienQuiksilver wrote:

skyline wrote:

darockk wrote:i really dont think a MISB Leader Prime will be worth much more than it is now even in 30 years time. There's just too many of them being stored away by collectors for it to be rare.

Correct bro.

Thats why the Transformers MASTERPIECE line is much more ideal for investment than the Leader Movie bec.

1. Its Very Limited production.
2. Has Metal Parts ( Much higher Value than "All plastic" )
3. Dont Have Batteries (so you can really keep it MISB for years to come)

The masterpiece seekers are all plastic. At least Skywarp is. I see your point with Megs and Prime, but what about 20th anniversary prime? He has just as much die cast as MP Prime, so will he be valued the same in years to come? I don't think so. 20th Primes definitely take the taco in mass production, so ... there is that.

MP Prime has batteries to light up the matrix in his chest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20th prime has this feature ... they are pretty much the same mold.

You make valid points, but they're a bit too flawed to be used as blanket statements.

so true! my bad

AlienQuiksilver wrote:G1 was mass produced, look at what some of those figs are pulling in. I'm sure there were just as many collectors back then, too.

I have my MISB collection. I don't expect it to skyrocket in value, but hey ... I have it just in case it does.

I"m not going to sell anyway, so it's a moot point for me.

But TF wasnt exactly a hot collector's item back then. People got them to play with, not to hold onto them for years and sell it.

skyline wrote:

AlienQuiksilver wrote:

skyline wrote:

darockk wrote:i really dont think a MISB Leader Prime will be worth much more than it is now even in 30 years time. There's just too many of them being stored away by collectors for it to be rare.

Correct bro.

Thats why the Transformers MASTERPIECE line is much more ideal for investment than the Leader Movie bec.

1. Its Very Limited production.
2. Has Metal Parts ( Much higher Value than "All plastic" )
3. Dont Have Batteries (so you can really keep it MISB for years to come)

The masterpiece seekers are all plastic. At least Skywarp is. I see your point with Megs and Prime, but what about 20th anniversary prime? He has just as much die cast as MP Prime, so will he be valued the same in years to come? I don't think so. 20th Primes definitely take the taco in mass production, so ... there is that.

MP Prime has batteries to light up the matrix in his chest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20th prime has this feature ... they are pretty much the same mold.

You make valid points, but they're a bit too flawed to be used as blanket statements.

so true! my bad

No bad ... your post surely lead a few people including myself to learn something. That's why we're in here. I say good job!

Den-O wrote:

AlienQuiksilver wrote:G1 was mass produced, look at what some of those figs are pulling in. I'm sure there were just as many collectors back then, too.

I have my MISB collection. I don't expect it to skyrocket in value, but hey ... I have it just in case it does.

I"m not going to sell anyway, so it's a moot point for me.

But TF wasnt exactly a hot collector's item back then. People got them to play with, not to hold onto them for years and sell it.

very true. Touche'

I guess the best analogy would be a G1 TF that required batteries...

G1 Shockwave... have you ever seen a MISB Shockwave?

G1 Omega Supreme... have you ever seen one MISB?

G1 Galvatron... G1 Trypticon...

All of these guys... did they already have the batteries included? or were they packaged without batteries?