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toxicity wrote:The high price is justified by the custom being a Jin Soatome custom..haha. Jin is an established customizer/kitbasher and has a reputation for amazing quality work. Yeah, the prices get pretty high, but just goes to show how great this guy's stuff is.I love looking at his work

zemper wrote:dude, chill.

take a look at the bid history buddy, look at the very bottom of the list there, and tell us what's the starting bid. a dollar, right? who should be ashamed now, the seller for setting such a dirt-cheap starting bid?

the high price was due to the people bidding on this item, and it was not set by the seller himself.

second, if you read around, this has been posted a few days ago and the customizer himself readily acknowledged that he used some parts from that Neo Shifter set.

third, that's Mister Jin Saotome yer talking about man. THE Mr. Saotome. his creations fetch high prices because they are worth that. really. go visit his site @ http://www.jinsaotomesdangeroustoys.com/.

Manitou Z3ROhour wrote:okay,

all praise to the RE-maker!
jin rocks
worship as thou wilst!

but

$630.00!?

holy carpe toys!

Sonray wrote:

zemper wrote:dude, chill.

take a look at the bid history buddy, look at the very bottom of the list there, and tell us what's the starting bid. a dollar, right? who should be ashamed now, the seller for setting such a dirt-cheap starting bid?

the high price was due to the people bidding on this item, and it was not set by the seller himself.

second, if you read around, this has been posted a few days ago and the customizer himself readily acknowledged that he used some parts from that Neo Shifter set.

third, that's Mister Jin Saotome yer talking about man. THE Mr. Saotome. his creations fetch high prices because they are worth that. really. go visit his site @ http://www.jinsaotomesdangeroustoys.com/.

I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

Sonray wrote:

zemper wrote:dude, chill.

take a look at the bid history buddy, look at the very bottom of the list there, and tell us what's the starting bid. a dollar, right? who should be ashamed now, the seller for setting such a dirt-cheap starting bid?

the high price was due to the people bidding on this item, and it was not set by the seller himself.

second, if you read around, this has been posted a few days ago and the customizer himself readily acknowledged that he used some parts from that Neo Shifter set.

third, that's Mister Jin Saotome yer talking about man. THE Mr. Saotome. his creations fetch high prices because they are worth that. really. go visit his site @ http://www.jinsaotomesdangeroustoys.com/.

I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

Sonray wrote:

zemper wrote:dude, chill.

take a look at the bid history buddy, look at the very bottom of the list there, and tell us what's the starting bid. a dollar, right? who should be ashamed now, the seller for setting such a dirt-cheap starting bid?

the high price was due to the people bidding on this item, and it was not set by the seller himself.

second, if you read around, this has been posted a few days ago and the customizer himself readily acknowledged that he used some parts from that Neo Shifter set.

third, that's Mister Jin Saotome yer talking about man. THE Mr. Saotome. his creations fetch high prices because they are worth that. really. go visit his site @ http://www.jinsaotomesdangeroustoys.com/.

I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

Sonray wrote:I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

War_On_Errorism wrote:

Sonray wrote:I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

I Go To An Art School In Philadelphia and This Reminds Me Of A Similar Conversation I Was Having The Other Day. In This "Internet Age" Any One Can Slap Together A Flash Animation (Im An Animator Myself), A Photoshop Painting, Digital Photo Collection, or Any Other Form Of Modern Art and Post It On You Tube Or Commission Themselves On Deviant Art (Which Im Proud To Not Be Part Of Either).

The 2 Things That Do Matter When Sorting Through The Above Said (Because You Still Can Find The "True" Art In The Vast Internet) Are:

1 - The Artist Knowing Understanding And Practicing The Techniques. Jin Does This. It Not About Just What You Can Do (Or In The Internet Age "Throw Together") But Rather You Know How It Is Properlly Done and Can Grow and Flourish With Your On Techniques Added As Well

2 - The Patron or Viewer (You). In Your Case Clearly You Can Not Appreciate Art (Transformers Art In This Case) You Say That Anybody Can Do What He Is Doing But Yet I Do Not See Your Work In The Kitbash Forums... Let Alone Looking Like His. Number 2 Goes Right Back To Number 1. Sure "Anybody" Can Read His Tutorials and Buy The Equipment. But The Work Jin Puts Out Come From Practice and Understanding Of The Trade. Which Once Again You Clearly Think You Have But I Have Yet To See This.

Its Like A Fellow Student From Last Year. He Came My School. University Of The Arts. Wanting To Be A Photo Major. Yet His Only Experience In The Field Was Digital Photography (Internet Age Anyone....). He Knew Nothing Of How To Develop Traditional Film, Use Filters, Or Even For That Matter The Techniques For Aperture and Shutter Speed / Film Speed. His Knowledge was Composition and How To Digitally Edit Photographs In Photoshop. This Goes To My Personal Opinion. If You Don't Know Or Don't Want To Understand The Principles Of The Art Form Then You Cant Call What Your Create Art. Im Aiming To Go Into 3D Computer Animation, But Here I Am At UArts Doing Hand Drawn 2D Animation For the Next 2-3 Years. Why So I Can Understand The Art Form Better.

That Is What Separates You From Jin and An "Anybody" From An "Artist"

frenzy_rumble wrote:

War_On_Errorism wrote:

Sonray wrote:I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

I Go To An Art School In Philadelphia and This Reminds Me Of A Similar Conversation I Was Having The Other Day. In This "Internet Age" Any One Can Slap Together A Flash Animation (Im An Animator Myself), A Photoshop Painting, Digital Photo Collection, or Any Other Form Of Modern Art and Post It On You Tube Or Commission Themselves On Deviant Art (Which Im Proud To Not Be Part Of Either).

The 2 Things That Do Matter When Sorting Through The Above Said (Because You Still Can Find The "True" Art In The Vast Internet) Are:

1 - The Artist Knowing Understanding And Practicing The Techniques. Jin Does This. It Not About Just What You Can Do (Or In The Internet Age "Throw Together") But Rather You Know How It Is Properlly Done and Can Grow and Flourish With Your On Techniques Added As Well

2 - The Patron or Viewer (You). In Your Case Clearly You Can Not Appreciate Art (Transformers Art In This Case) You Say That Anybody Can Do What He Is Doing But Yet I Do Not See Your Work In The Kitbash Forums... Let Alone Looking Like His. Number 2 Goes Right Back To Number 1. Sure "Anybody" Can Read His Tutorials and Buy The Equipment. But The Work Jin Puts Out Come From Practice and Understanding Of The Trade. Which Once Again You Clearly Think You Have But I Have Yet To See This.

Its Like A Fellow Student From Last Year. He Came My School. University Of The Arts. Wanting To Be A Photo Major. Yet His Only Experience In The Field Was Digital Photography (Internet Age Anyone....). He Knew Nothing Of How To Develop Traditional Film, Use Filters, Or Even For That Matter The Techniques For Aperture and Shutter Speed / Film Speed. His Knowledge was Composition and How To Digitally Edit Photographs In Photoshop. This Goes To My Personal Opinion. If You Don't Know Or Don't Want To Understand The Principles Of The Art Form Then You Cant Call What Your Create Art. Im Aiming To Go Into 3D Computer Animation, But Here I Am At UArts Doing Hand Drawn 2D Animation For the Next 2-3 Years. Why So I Can Understand The Art Form Better.

That Is What Separates You From Jin and An "Anybody" From An "Artist"

jesus...my eyes bleed trying to read that. but good point. I went to University of the Arts in philly for a semester 10 years ago lol.

frenzy_rumble wrote:

Sonray wrote:

zemper wrote:dude, chill.

take a look at the bid history buddy, look at the very bottom of the list there, and tell us what's the starting bid. a dollar, right? who should be ashamed now, the seller for setting such a dirt-cheap starting bid?

the high price was due to the people bidding on this item, and it was not set by the seller himself.

second, if you read around, this has been posted a few days ago and the customizer himself readily acknowledged that he used some parts from that Neo Shifter set.

third, that's Mister Jin Saotome yer talking about man. THE Mr. Saotome. his creations fetch high prices because they are worth that. really. go visit his site @ http://www.jinsaotomesdangeroustoys.com/.

I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

you should be banned from the boards with a comment like this. Everyone here is a fan of Jin and his work has done nothing but inspire people to go crazy with kitbashing and repainting. The day you create something that inspires someone else, you *might* have room to talk.

I think your comments are insulting and childish. Your PMs to me claiming you are 'better than Jin' just make me laugh, but when you go on a public level and outright try to insuly his art...that's downright disrespectful and immature, you should be ashamed and get back to painting plastic toys with 'automotive grade' paint.

War_On_Errorism wrote:

Sonray wrote:I aint got nothing against the guy, but the bidders are idiots with too much money. All Jin does is use some acrylic paints and brushed them on to already existing figure to make them look more movie accurate. Its not like he is scratch building highly detailed new molds. All he did was stick a paint brush in a jar and rubbed it over the figure, or stuck a few existing spare gundamn or lego parts on to make new weapons.
He doesn't even use an airbrush or proper paints!

His work is good but people really need to realize that almost anyone can do what he, myself, and nearly every other TF customizer has done.

Jin hogs too much of the lime light around here. He's a nice guy and all but seriously anyone can do this stuff.

I Go To An Art School In Philadelphia and This Reminds Me Of A Similar Conversation I Was Having The Other Day. In This "Internet Age" Any One Can Slap Together A Flash Animation (Im An Animator Myself), A Photoshop Painting, Digital Photo Collection, or Any Other Form Of Modern Art and Post It On You Tube Or Commission Themselves On Deviant Art (Which Im Proud To Not Be Part Of Either).

The 2 Things That Do Matter When Sorting Through The Above Said (Because You Still Can Find The "True" Art In The Vast Internet) Are:

1 - The Artist Knowing Understanding And Practicing The Techniques. Jin Does This. It Not About Just What You Can Do (Or In The Internet Age "Throw Together") But Rather You Know How It Is Properlly Done and Can Grow and Flourish With Your On Techniques Added As Well

2 - The Patron or Viewer (You). In Your Case Clearly You Can Not Appreciate Art (Transformers Art In This Case) You Say That Anybody Can Do What He Is Doing But Yet I Do Not See Your Work In The Kitbash Forums... Let Alone Looking Like His. Number 2 Goes Right Back To Number 1. Sure "Anybody" Can Read His Tutorials and Buy The Equipment. But The Work Jin Puts Out Come From Practice and Understanding Of The Trade. Which Once Again You Clearly Think You Have But I Have Yet To See This.

Its Like A Fellow Student From Last Year. He Came My School. University Of The Arts. Wanting To Be A Photo Major. Yet His Only Experience In The Field Was Digital Photography (Internet Age Anyone....). He Knew Nothing Of How To Develop Traditional Film, Use Filters, Or Even For That Matter The Techniques For Aperture and Shutter Speed / Film Speed. His Knowledge was Composition and How To Digitally Edit Photographs In Photoshop. This Goes To My Personal Opinion. If You Don't Know Or Don't Want To Understand The Principles Of The Art Form Then You Cant Call What Your Create Art. Im Aiming To Go Into 3D Computer Animation, But Here I Am At UArts Doing Hand Drawn 2D Animation For the Next 2-3 Years. Why So I Can Understand The Art Form Better.

That Is What Separates You From Jin and An "Anybody" From An "Artist"

frenzy_rumble wrote:SonRay put out **** like this...

http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotom ... preme.html

then you can talk.

Sonray wrote:You can find my work int he kitbash forums as i post everything i do there.