The Energon Pub

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ok, originally this was again, a What if thread, but I recently found out that ravenstar studios do requests, as long as they can be sure that there is a market for a particular model.. so with that in mind, I'm gonna personally request a large sized Model of the Ark circa G-1 and a Nemesis!!!

I am gonna reference this thread in the e-mail to show the fandom is willing to support it!!

They're 10 inch models sell for a reasonable 35.00 USD, so if they did that scale and offered the same pricing, we could all get a wonderful treat by the first quarter of the new year!! let's all chip in and add a yes here for support!! I'll let it get up to as many pages as I can for the next 3 or 4 days, then send the e-mail.. who knows if they're model kits are successful, maybe they will do the Beast Wars space ships, Unicron and so on...
check out their site and the quality of their work.. and you'll be able to imagine just how well they could pull off a good model kit of the Ark!!!






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I was thinking about a cool toy model of Cybertron on my desk at work, with real working lights and on a little peg that revolved it slowly..with battle damage as shown in the original G-1 TV series.. (no Moons) that would be cool!!!

or a Unicron that lit up, not transformations, but did his arrghh!!! sounds and had a few recordings from the movie and lit up around the edges and had a red light from inside as if it was gonna eat a planet..

Has anyone thought of kitbashing a Deathstar model??

Or what about a Plastic Model of the Ark, the Nemesis, the

War World, or Quintessa, and other various Space ships..but in model format..??

How about ravenstar studios:
http://www.ravenstarstudios.com/

here's some of their works in progress:
http://www.ravenstarstudios.com/bench/index.php

Heres a catalogue:
http://www.ravenstarstudios.com/catalog.html

they have very reasonable prices.. if the fandom get on them to make a Nemesis or Ark we could see the same pricing.. 35.00 for a quality molded model of the Ark is a fair price..

Here's a gallery:
http://www.ravenstarstudios.com/gallery/index.php

Blog spot Gallery as well:
http://ravenstarstudios.blogspot.com/

what do ya think??

You'd have to get the die hards (like myself) together on this one. It sounds like a great idea but the demand would have to be there before anyone would consider it.

You should start a petition of some sort to present them with. It should be a walk in the park compared to some of the great pieces they already have. I'll be the second to sign, right after you of course.

First Gen wrote:You'd have to get the die hards (like myself) together on this one. It sounds like a great idea but the demand would have to be there before anyone would consider it.

You should start a petition of some sort to present them with. It should be a walk in the park compared to some of the great pieces they already have. I'll be the second to sign, right after you of course.

well the website says they take requests.. I wonder how well they would be acceptable to it..

they do most of their kits cause they know there is a market for it by the Trekkies..
If I can get a signature thread together from the fandom, with alot of requests, I'm pretty confident that they'd make atleast the Ark as a model.. oh boy!!! I'd paint that sucker in glosssy Metallic chromium orange-ish gold!!

I'm gonna modify the title, here's hoping our fandom is in a supportive mood, and digs Spaceships too!!

$35.00 would be a very fair price for a quality model of the Ark or Nemesis. I would definitely buy both if they made them. Count me in.

I would be more than happy to pre-order an anime accurate Ark and Nemesis. Wouldn't think twice, wouldn't even think once, I'd just whi[p out the old CC.

Thanks guys... If I can get atleast 3 Pages worth of votes for a yes, then I think I may just get a good response.. keep them coming..

Oh and if you have any suggestions on detailing and such, now would be the best time to do it..

I need a good quality image of the ships to post in here so that the guy over at Ravenstar Studios can see what exactly we are looking for from them.. anyone have alink to a 3D modeling site whose done a good 3D representation of the ships, with maybe a video of a 360 turn around? I know it's asking for alot, but upfront, I want to give Ravenstar some easy reference materials along side a huge fandom request...


I also have a question...

is the Autobot Ark the same thing as the movie shuttle? Is it possible the front end of the movie shuttle was the Ark?

just wondering?? I would hope not, but I've always wondered about that..(in star Trek terms) I would think the ark was the size of the Enterprise, and the shuttle was the size of the defiant from Deep Space nine??

or in (Star Wars terms) was the Ark equivalent to the Imperial Star Destroyers and the Autobot Shuttles from the movie equal to a corellian Corovette??

I think something as large as the Ark crashing on Earth would wipe out all life that existed at the time...

That's my official response.

Counterpunch wrote:I think something as large as the Ark crashing on Earth would wipe out all life that existed at the time...

That's my official response.

so scale apparently as an issue with spacecraft back then as well.. or am I just thinking the Ark was larger due to the expansion of it into a base by the autobots in G-1??

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I sent an e-mail to Chris Lynch over at ravenstar studios to see what they think, if they come back and say "yes, but we want to see allot of fan support first", then I'm hoping when you guys see that we get a huge Hell yeah!! from the fandom!! here's hoping guys...

I would love them, if they had like parts you could remove to take a look inside, and little details.

I would definitely buy them, especially if it was like what Dead Metal said. Although, I would buy them even if it didn't have the "look-inside" details

Repair Bay wrote:I would definitely buy them, especially if it was like what Dead Metal said. Although, I would buy them even if it didn't have the "look-inside" details

ditto

Sign me up for one. I've wanted an Arc display piece for years.

Imperious Prime wrote:Sign me up for one. I've wanted an Arc display piece for years.

good point, for years we have all seent hose ships and for years, and decades we have never had an actual toy or model of them!! it's outrageous...we had to wait 20 plus years for Unicron, and then a Primus.. how much longer do we have to wait??

I say enough's enough.. post here.. let's garner support as much as we can so when Chris Lynch comes to check out this thread we get a yes answer from raven studios!!


Also one thing I'd like to note is that there seems to be subtle differences in the design of the Ark.. look at the top, see how the Bridge area is more pronounced in the cartoon image, and then the art work narrows it some what.. plus the hubs next to the bridge are sometimes next to the Bridge, and sometimes depicted away from it..which design is the best to use for the model??


for those of you who do not remember or have stayed away from beast Wars the series, you should know that in that transformers TV show, the Ark and Nemesis were held up as almost Godly starships, and were coveted very much by Maximals and Predacons..here is a nice sample of that wonderous show, and really exemplifies beyond G-1 why those ships are so important to the mythos:

Beast Wars Nemesis:

1st half

Part 1/3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocNL05nHxJc

Part 2/3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqbsKUTRJNU

Part 3/3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_tur9HuCcY

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2nd Half

Part 1/3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQV1KKTgKQ

Part 2/3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gihAliTCsko

Part 3/3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGb1cdpQ54s

Edit, I couldn't get through the e-mail for some reason on his account, so i decided to add my own to his Blog..

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogI ... 3839581359

hopefully he'll see it and respond here.. I really think this guy is probably one of the best modelers I have ever seen that is independent of the major toy and modelling manufacturers.. he's amazing!!! hopefully you guys will add some support and if he does decide to do the custom models his business and exposure will be huge, considering there has never been a full sizd 10 inch model of either the Ark or Nemesis!! i would soo put on a Beast Wars Transmetals show, like in the episode Nemesis!! I would Suspend the Nemesis above a small Jungle set on my shelf and reinact the battle.. with my ark model painted and sitting in cotton spray painted to look like rock, so that I can remove my model anytime I wanted without it being damaged.. or heck i'll buy two from him!! come on Mr. Lynch, hook us fans up!! please..

I'd go for it. I'd have difficulty choosing which one though I don't think the part of my mind that justifies spending money could allow me to get both.

If they did an Axalon & Darksyde as well that'd be great! & my mind would be made up, Axalon all the way!

Good luck on this one 'warp! You have the support of all us Ark/Nemesis fans behind you!

Thanks J.. I think that the Axalon and the Darksyde are also famous ships, as with the Beast Wars cartoon seires, we got a hefty exposure to the reality of how big a part those ships played in that series.. I especially love how the Nemesis fit into the whole equation..nice series and great space ships.. I think an axalon would be cool too, because we could pretend that the battle on the ground is because of their crash while posing our transformers.. but what about ravage's ship???

i'm all for em! add me to the list!!!

I'm in. I've always dreamed of making my own custom Ark & Nemesis, but I never got around to it. The thing that would be great about this is that it would be the only acurate Ark & Nemesis in existence. Let's face it, the Titanium Ark is really just the Movie Shuttle, not the real G1 Autobot base. Let's see where this goes...hopefully we get enough. I would recomend postiung this on other TF forums though, more than one would probably spark motivation for these guys.

Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:I'm in. I've always dreamed of making my own custom Ark & Nemesis, but I never got around to it. The thing that would be great about this is that it would be the only acurate Ark & Nemesis in existence. Let's face it, the Titanium Ark is really just the Movie Shuttle, not the real G1 Autobot base. Let's see where this goes...hopefully we get enough. I would recomend postiung this on other TF forums though, more than one would probably spark motivation for these guys.

I'll give that a try, but I've been such a seibertron Loyalist, that I'm not sure if the other boards will welcome me.. I mean.. It would feel alien going to another site wouldn't it??

Hummm! what did i step in now.
Hello mech monkeys , i received a email today from Skywarp-2 and followed up on the invite.
Although RSS is swamped for now , i have been thinking about building both the ark and nemesis for some time. but since i have not keeped up with the shows since beast wars ( which rocked) i wasn't sure which design to follow. i like the ones shown here , but thought the Ark was diffrent. are there more than one version?
i'll keep this in mond and drop in from time to time and once my work table gets some room , i'll start them up . in the mean time , if you find any other pics it would help.
thrusters full.
later.

Holy Crap!!! we could see some soon!! this is huge!!!


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Thank you so much Ravenstar for the reply, i'm sure the fandom and us here on seibertron.com will appreciate the time you took to stop by. I am absolutely amazed that your interested in this idea..

Those of us who have longed for a model of th eArk and Nemesis are very happy, i'm sure, i actually couldn't contain my excitement and had to go jump around and call some of my buddies to let them know!! they were thrilled too!!

I'm floored!! Is this news worthy???

ok, guys, we need to pstep up the support and also get the design experts on here to help Ravenstar studios with the designs..

Ravenstar Studios wrote:Hummm! what did i step in now.
Hello mech monkeys , i received a email today from Skywarp-2 and followed up on the invite.
Although RSS is swamped for now , i have been thinking about building both the ark and nemesis for some time. but since i have not keeped up with the shows since beast wars ( which rocked) i wasn't sure which design to follow. i like the ones shown here , but thought the Ark was diffrent. are there more than one version? i'll keep this in mond and drop in from time to time and once my work table gets some room , i'll start them up . in the mean time , if you find any other pics it would help.
thrusters full.
later.

actually there are some differences between the Ark from the Original G-1 TV show and the detachable Autobot shuttle as show cased int eh transformers Movie circa 1986
The Autobot shuttle is a multi-stage transport use by the Autobots around the 2005 era. Though they have a tendency to explode if you look at them wrong, the Autobot shuttles enjoy a good reputation due to their excellent safety rating. You can crash them, shoot them, set them on fire, blow them up, but the passengers will almost always walk away uninjured.

The Autobot shuttle can take off horizontally with the aid of retractable thrusters on its belly[1] that lift the ship on a ground-effect cushion before it can get up enough speed to generate lift. The shuttl uses anti-gravity pads[2] for landings. It can also be launched vertically with the aid of a gantry.

Autobot Shuttles are considered antiques by the Beast Era.

Autobot Shuttle:



Autobot Shuttle Midsection:

The shuttle has a modular design similar to... I'm gonna say the STNG Enterprise. Adding modules on to the front section expands the shuttle's range and abilities. The addition of a small lifepod means it's possible to detonate 1/2, 3/4 or 4/4 of the ship and still survive.


Rear section:
The rear section of the Autobot shuttle contains the Main Stellar Drive for interstellar travel as well as the main propellant engines.

The 'conning tower' of the rear section contains a secondary navigation center.

The rear section also houses a cargo hold.


Forward section

An Autobot Transport Gunship forms the foremost module of the shuttle.

This section's function is to keep the occupants alive in a tight situation, it excels at short-range space combat, but is not designed for traveling interstellar distances.


Out pops a surprise!The Gunship is armed with three cannons on the lower surface, and the 'wings' on either size can house a variety of armaments, such as pop-out guns or sonic warheads.




But that's the Autobot Shuttle, and not the Ark.. if your to do a scale comparison I'd say the ark was like a Star Destroyer from Star Wars and the Shuttle was a rebel blockade runner.. like what Lea was on when Darth vader attacked int he beginning..Likewise the Nemesis is pretty big as well...

the Autobot Ark:

now this is the ship we are wanting to be created, and the one which has never seen the light of day in any type of medium what so ever.. it's the ship that started it all..
The Ark is the name given to the Autobot spaceship that, in most versions of the Generation 1 story, originally carried the Autobot and Decepticon armies to Earth.

The Ark is a Vanguard-class Deep Space Interceptor. It has 5 Decks and houses a full crew complement of 300 Transformers. (Although it can be flown by only a handful if necessary.) Its environment is fully-automated and self-sufficient. For engines it features 4 Hyperfuel Intake Accelerators.

It is armed with 16 particle-combustion canons (port), 16 laser emitters (starboard), a primary starfield missile launcher, and an Overshock sonic battery.

The Autobot ship in the G1 cartoon is never actually named. Fans have generally called it The Ark however, borrowing the name from its Comic counterpart.

The cartoon version of the ship tends to have a more rounded ovoid look to it and is a goldish-yellow color. It has a main computer designated Teletraan I.

Other Vanguard-class ships, pretty much identical to the Ark, are seen taking refugees from Cybertron on a history tape in Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2. It is suspected that the settlers of known Autobot colonies such as Junkion were among these.


The Ark was launched under the command of Optimus Prime to search for fuel but ran afoul of two colliding asteroids. Then the Decepticon ship attacked, and the Decepticons under Megatron boarded it. Out of control, the Ark crashed to Earth, smashing into a volcano in what would eventually become a desert. The exact location is unknown, but closely resembled the American southwest. There it rested until a volcanic eruption four million years later reactivated it and its inhabitants MTMTE1








I sincerely hope this helps in your construction of the Ark models.. when your able to that is.. I know your busy, but we here are all glad that your interested and look forward to your work.. there are a plethore of ships int eh transformers Universe.. not just the Ark and Nemesis or the Axalon and Darksyde from beast wars..

we are here to help anytime you need it.. just post and we will come to your aide...

here is a link to the wikipedia accounting of the various ships hat have debuted int eh transformers series.. their designs are very uncommon, and some are just down right awesome!! the transwarp cruiser that was piloted by ravge in beast wars ..and the various ships in the transformers armada series..

link:
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Starships

thanks Ravenstar Studios!!!

I've never heard of these guys but those Trek ships are great.....I really like the Nebular Class Starship I say these guys should start making TF stuff as soon as possible.

I would definitely buy a nicely detailed larger scale version of the Ark. I would love to see it produced.

Not too be greedy, but I wouldn't mind a Junkion ship either.