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TRU Skywarp G1 reissue

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:43 am
by 5kywarp
My nose cone is rubbish also the missiles are wrong. Anyone else got this one? Am I alone in this dilemma or do I need to buy another?

Unfortunately I lost the missiles from my original G1 Skywarp.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:48 am
by Tekka
Apparently the nose cone on all reissue Skywarps are 'warped' so to speak. :P Doesn't bother me so much as I display him in robot mode and have two original Skywarps to display in plane mode.

As for the missiles, what exactly is wrong with them? I haven't tried anything with mine as I decided to leave them on the trees.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:59 am
by waaaaghlord
The missiles on all of the TRU Seeker reissues were lengthened to meet modern US toy safety laws. It sucks but there you are. The nosecones on the other reissues were all alright, Skywarp got a bum deal on this. I'm not sure that it's absolutely all of them, but certainly all that I've seen. I just checked the half dozen that were in stock at Middlesborough last week and not a decent one among them.

Best bet is probably to hit ebay and look for a junker vintage Skywarp with a decent nosecone and some proper missiles. Not likely to find both items in the same auction unless you're willing to pay more than the reissue set you back though.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:20 am
by 5kywarp
yeah, the short stubby missiles for plane mode have had the mounting poles extended so they look absolutely stupid.
Crazy!

Going to have a look for a second hand one for spares.
Cheers.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:58 am
by microclone
i feel the longer missiles look better than the original, gives the bots a more dynamic look.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:12 am
by Counterpunch
Clarification:

The UK release of Skywarp is all kinds of F'd up.

No one can point to a reason why it is different from the very nice, problem free US release.

That nosecone and wing thing is a purely Euro release issue.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:16 am
by Leonardo
Counterpunch wrote:Clarification:

The UK release of Skywarp is all kinds of F'd up.

No one can point to a reason why it is different from the very nice, problem free US release.

That nosecone and wing thing is a purely Euro release issue.


"Wing thing"? Could you please explain this to us, Sparkle?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:20 am
by 5kywarp
microclone wrote:i feel the longer missiles look better than the original, gives the bots a more dynamic look.


Skywarp and I believe all the seekers come with 2 different missiles. The long ones for robot mode (these are fine) and the short stubby ones.

The short ones have a huge ridiculous extension on the mounting poles, surely no-one thinks these look even ok?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:36 am
by Counterpunch
Leonardo wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Clarification:

The UK release of Skywarp is all kinds of F'd up.

No one can point to a reason why it is different from the very nice, problem free US release.

That nosecone and wing thing is a purely Euro release issue.


"Wing thing"? Could you please explain this to us, Sparkle?


Yea, instead of the wing, when plugged into the body of the jet, being flush or nearly flush up against the body, it sticks out a considerable distance. There was a big row over all of this like 2-3 years ago when the toy was released in the UK. Someone put up pictures and a whole lot of folks confirmed they had the same issues.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:44 am
by Leonardo
Ah, you're referring to the gap between the wing and the main body? I thought this was an issue with all of the jets as it seems to be present in Ryan's galleries.

Can you remember if the same issue was present on UK Starscream as, if memory serves, the gap is about the same on both (my Thundercracker has it too but I can't recall if he came out in the UK)?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:40 am
by microclone
5kywarp wrote:
microclone wrote:i feel the longer missiles look better than the original, gives the bots a more dynamic look.


Skywarp and I believe all the seekers come with 2 different missiles. The long ones for robot mode (these are fine) and the short stubby ones.

The short ones have a huge ridiculous extension on the mounting poles, surely no-one thinks these look even ok?


i was referring to the ones that extend outside the gun, they look good, the short ones with long insert i didnt even take from the sprues!!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:43 am
by microclone
Leonardo wrote:Ah, you're referring to the gap between the wing and the main body? I thought this was an issue with all of the jets as it seems to be present in Ryan's galleries.

Can you remember if the same issue was present on UK Starscream as, if memory serves, the gap is about the same on both (my Thundercracker has it too but I can't recall if he came out in the UK)?


i have three seekers:takara collection starscream, USA reissue thundercracker, UK reissue skywarp.

the wings on all 3 are the same fit in terms of postion but only the takara SS has the pegs fit nice and tight, both of the hasbro versions have loosely fitting wings that pop out rather easily. luckily they all look good!!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:44 am
by Leonardo
microclone wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Ah, you're referring to the gap between the wing and the main body? I thought this was an issue with all of the jets as it seems to be present in Ryan's galleries.

Can you remember if the same issue was present on UK Starscream as, if memory serves, the gap is about the same on both (my Thundercracker has it too but I can't recall if he came out in the UK)?


i have three seekers:takara collection starscream, USA reissue thundercracker, UK reissue skywarp.

the wings on all 3 are the same fit in terms of postion but only the takara SS has the pegs fit nice and tight, both of the hasbro versions have loosely fitting wings that pop out rather easily. luckily they all look good!!


Ah, you see, all three of mine are Hasbro and they all fit tightly. They certainly don't pop out easily. I do have an original Thrust, however, whose wings do fall out after the slightest contact.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:59 am
by microclone
Leonardo wrote:
microclone wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Ah, you're referring to the gap between the wing and the main body? I thought this was an issue with all of the jets as it seems to be present in Ryan's galleries.

Can you remember if the same issue was present on UK Starscream as, if memory serves, the gap is about the same on both (my Thundercracker has it too but I can't recall if he came out in the UK)?


i have three seekers:takara collection starscream, USA reissue thundercracker, UK reissue skywarp.

the wings on all 3 are the same fit in terms of postion but only the takara SS has the pegs fit nice and tight, both of the hasbro versions have loosely fitting wings that pop out rather easily. luckily they all look good!!


Ah, you see, all three of mine are Hasbro and they all fit tightly. They certainly don't pop out easily. I do have an original Thrust, however, whose wings do fall out after the slightest contact.


interesting that your hasbro versions are tight, mine arent very loose but the takara version by comparison has much tighter fit in the ports. maybe some toys were made with somewhat varying moulds or down to mould wear.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:17 am
by Tekka
Strangely enough, my reissue Skywarp is an American version but still has this problem. I imported it back when the reissues were first released and the box has an American UPC code on the back rather than a British EAN13. Yet the nosecone is still wrong. It is smooth on top yet bulges over the edge of the plastic on the bottom. :? Was this a problem in a later run of US reissues as well?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:24 am
by Leonardo
Maybe someone could search eBay and look for US versions of the reissue.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:27 am
by Tekka
I just want a scan of the back of the UK version box so I can prove to myself I'm not going nuts. :?

Or if anyone with the UK version can confirm for me what its barcode is? As far as I'm aware it should be 5010994127107.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:08 pm
by voice of hoist
I too have noticed the wig gap on all of Ryan's seekers in the galleries, and my encore starscream has a big gap there too.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:32 pm
by microclone
Tekka wrote:I just want a scan of the back of the UK version box so I can prove to myself I'm not going nuts. :?

Or if anyone with the UK version can confirm for me what its barcode is? As far as I'm aware it should be 5010994127107.


geek 2 to geek 1 , yes the code is confirmed.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:44 pm
by Tekka
Thank you, Geek 2. Then it would appear I do have a US reissue with an incorrect nose cone. It's not a malformed shape at all but it is somewhat too big for the rest of the body. Anybody else with the US version notice their Skywarp's nose cone is too big?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:26 am
by sto_vo_kor_2000
5kywarp wrote:
microclone wrote:i feel the longer missiles look better than the original, gives the bots a more dynamic look.


Skywarp and I believe all the seekers come with 2 different missiles. The long ones for robot mode (these are fine) and the short stubby ones.

The short ones have a huge ridiculous extension on the mounting poles, surely no-one thinks these look even ok?


They werent changed so that they look better.The missils on the Hasbro reissues were all changed so that little kids wouldnt choke on them as eazy as they could with the originals.

The Hasbro reissues had the long missiles made thicker and the short missiles made longer to prevent choking.

If your going to look for 2nd had original missiles your going to have to look for the launchers too because they were modifyed to hold the thicker missiles and the original might fall out.